Quality Assurance

Z8 should make a QA team composed of 8-10 players. I realized the effect of this wouldn't be enormous on the game itself, as Z8 has no REAL control over it, however it may have small effects on the game and bigger effects on the community.

IMO These are the most qualified people ATM for said team, with basic reasoning. Feel free to flame or complain, and GMs please post thoughts.

Malte - Competitive SnD, Experience, General Intelligence
Doop - Competitive SnD, Experience, General Intelligence
Kahlahn - Competitive SnD, Experience, General Intelligence
Bruce - Competitive SnD, Experience, General Intelligence
Cypher - Competitive SnD, Experience, General Intelligence
BobbyBlackk - Competitive GM, Experience, General Intelligence
Myself (Denxi) - Advanced Movement and Glitch understanding, Competitive SnD, Experience, General Intelligence

If you feel I missed a major person, post.

If you feel I posted someone who doesn't deserve to be there, post.

Note: Using the current group of MODs has been thought of, but when one of them says that the Red PSG is the best sniper currently in-game, that idea went down the toilet.
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  • Denxi wrote: »
    Z8 should make a QA team composed of 8-10 players. I realized the effect of this wouldn't be enormous on the game itself, as Z8 has no REAL control over it, however it may have small effects on the game and bigger effects on the community.

    IMO These are the most qualified people ATM for said team, with basic reasoning. Feel free to flame or complain, and GMs please post thoughts.

    Malte - Competitive SnD, Experience, General Intelligence
    Doop - Competitive SnD, Experience, General Intelligence
    Kahlahn - Competitive SnD, Experience, General Intelligence
    Bruce - Competitive SnD, Experience, General Intelligence
    Cypher - Competitive SnD, Experience, General Intelligence
    BobbyBlackk - Competitive GM, Experience, General Intelligence
    Myself (Denxi) - Advanced Movement and Glitch understanding, Competitive SnD, Experience, General Intelligence

    If you feel I missed a major person, post.

    If you feel I posted someone who doesn't deserve to be there, post.

    Note: Using the current group of MODs has been thought of, but when one of them says that the Red PSG is the best sniper currently in-game, that idea went down the toilet.

    You answered the reason why this won't happen in paragraph 1.

    Plus too much drama llama in those people in 1 group of QA maddness. Plus, it's not like the information is not known to the staff.

    Finally, not sure who said the psg1 comment, but if were going to go by the "cs 1.6 pro" mentality, I'm sure about 80% of the mods are fps competitve.

    ps: I'm not slam dunking shutting down the idea, just some off the top remarks at work.
  • You answered the reason why this won't happen in paragraph 1.

    Plus too much drama llama in those people in 1 group of QA maddness. Plus, it's not like the information is not known to the staff.

    Finally, not sure who said the psg1 comment, but if were going to go by the "cs 1.6 pro" mentality, I'm sure about 80% of the mods are fps competitve.

    The biggest effect would be on the community/events. But then again Z8 probs will go all ZP so it won't even matter. I get mixed messages from Z8, sometimes they have no control over anything, and other times they do.

    Not between said people. Except possible Doop, but that's when it doesn't even matter.

    If they know it, they sure don't reflect it in their work.

    Greycloak said it, and I cried.


    Also, I'm not saying the people listed are the only ones with a valid or semi-intelligent opinion. It's just that said people are the most expressive when it comes to said opinion, in my experience.



    Also, I do realize that bias seems apparent when I place myself on the list, however I can argue my case.
  • paayLsew wrote: »
    wL- - Competitive SnD, Experience,

    General Intelligence is a requirement =\
  • Denxi wrote: »
    General Intelligence is a requirement =\
    True, true.

    How bout BlindRob?

    Competitive SnD, experience, general intelligence
  • Just to clarify..

    The point of this team would be a semi-direct contact with the GMs for feedback on the game and community-related issues which need quality input?

    Looks like a solid team so far.


    Edit: More euros. <3
  • Floatzel wrote: »
    True, true.

    How bout BlindRob?

    Competitive SnD, experience, general intelligence

    I haven't seen Blind make any long posts with good arguments supporting his opinion.

    I'm not saying he isn't good or intelligent, just IMO hasn't expressed it enough from what I've seen.
  • dot1 wrote: »
    Just to clarify..

    The point of this team would be a semi-direct contact with the GMs for feedback on the game and community-related issues which need quality input?

    Looks like a solid team so far.

    Yes, hopefully more than semi-direct.
  • Denxi wrote: »
    I haven't seen Blind make any long posts with good arguments supporting his opinion.

    I'm not saying he isn't good or intelligent, just IMO hasn't expressed it enough from what I've seen.

    Yes but he is intelligent, has had experience with the CF community, and is a competitive SnD player, no?
  • Like dot said, this is a solid team. I completly agree, however I would like to say that you must be on that team.

    I know your competences on glitching, and it's important that the developers find & patch them.
  • Us3rK wrote: »
    Like dot said, this is a solid team. I completly agree, however I would like to say that you must be on that team.

    I know your competences on glitching, and it's important that the developers find & patch them.

    They could be the Mini-Mods, though Bruce already is a Mod >.>
  • I do believe the key word would be Quality Assurance. Hence there would be no real need for new mod's. It would take the forum more so of a community liaison.

    However, while it would be useful in highlighting specific issues... in the end it is up to the game developers. We can make as much noise as we want but in the end it falls upon deaf ears.

    But all that aside I can say with certainty that if you wanted any group of individuals in this community to make noise and highlight issues that list would certainly be good at it.

    ps: What drama llama? I have butted heads with Kahlan before in the past but even still he is probably one of the members of Trio that I have the most respect for... as for Doops and Malte I have had no real issues with them ever. Bruce and I go way back, Denxi and I have never had any real drama between each other. The only one of the list would be Bobby and I have no clue who that is.
  • Denxi wrote: »
    I haven't seen Blind make any long posts with good arguments supporting his opinion.

    I'm not saying he isn't good or intelligent, just IMO hasn't expressed it enough from what I've seen.
    Floatzel wrote: »
    True, true.

    How bout BlindRob?

    Competitive SnD, experience, general intelligence
    Denxi wrote: »
    General Intelligence is a requirement =\

    Between myself, Rob, and Bruce, we have 20+ years of competitive first person shooter exp. I don't think myself or Rob speak up that often, but don't forget we were both LL members at one point.

    Deadeye/pain/Grey/fam play constantly, can't give specific details of their background.

    And were adding 1-2 new mods for the summah :o
  • Between myself, Rob, and Bruce, we have 20+ years of competitive first person shooter exp. I don't think myself or Rob speak up that often, but don't forget we were both LL members at one point.

    Deadeye/pain/Grey/fam play constantly, can't give specific details of their background.

    And were adding 1-2 new mods for the summah :o

    It's a spring thing, Delaco, a spring thing...
  • Floatzel wrote: »
    It's a spring thing, Delaco, a spring thing...

    lalala can't hear you, spring doesn't exist bring on the summer!
  • I seriously have no idea what's going on here.

    But anyways yeah interesting topic.
  • Between myself, Rob, and Bruce, we have 20+ years of competitive first person shooter exp. I don't think myself or Rob speak up that often, but don't forget we were both LL members at one point.

    Deadeye/pain/Grey/fam play constantly, can't give specific details of their background.

    And were adding 1-2 new mods for the summah :o

    I chose Bruce because IMO the entire thing is about detailed expression of opinion. I have not seen any major posts or threads by you or BlindRob have posted that showcase this.

    Again, I'm not saying you don't have enough experience or anything, just saying that when it comes to the expression needed IMO you haven't expressed said "skill."
  • lalala can't hear you, spring doesn't exist bring on the summer!

    FacePalm :)
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    You baddie :)
  • Cypherrrr wrote: »
    I do believe the key word would be Quality Assurance. Hence there would be no real need for new mod's. It would take the forum more so of a community liaison.

    However, while it would be useful in highlighting specific issues... in the end it is up to the game developers. We can make as much noise as we want but in the end it falls upon deaf ears.

    But all that aside I can say with certainty that if you wanted any group of individuals in this community to make noise and highlight issues that list would certainly be good at it.

    ps: What drama llama? I have butted heads with Kahlan before in the past but even still he is probably one of the members of Trio that I have the most respect for... as for Doops and Malte I have had no real issues with them ever. Bruce and I go way back, Denxi and I have never had any real drama between each other. The only one of the list would be Bobby and I have no clue who that is.

    Read my "Ghost Mode League Test" thread in the tournament section. Bobby was a major contributor to the discussion, and IMO is THE person to turn to when it comes to GM.
  • Denxi wrote: »
    Read my "Ghost Mode League Test" thread in the tournament section. Bobby was a major contributor to the discussion, and IMO is THE person to turn to when it comes to GM.

    Hm, is he by any chance in Sensation? If so, I do believe I am well aware of who he is.
  • I (ColorBliind, luxuryy) would like to be part of this team if possible. I've taken part in the competitive side of CF (LifeLine, Serenity, Zen), my FPS(3+ years)/"general" experience is well developed and my intelligence level far surpasses that of 98% of this community.
  • Denxi wrote: »
    I chose Bruce because IMO the entire thing is about detailed expression of opinion. I have not seen any major posts or threads by you or BlindRob have posted that showcase this.

    Again, I'm not saying you don't have enough experience or anything, just saying that when it comes to the expression needed IMO you haven't expressed said "skill."

    I'll you the reason we don't make elaborate posts/threads about it.

    We have the train track to the head honcho to discuss these things :p Why make a thread when we can just talk to Saidin/Fallen.

    Not that we shouldn't discuss things, But I don't feel i need to contribute to the same old threads about the same old issues again and again :P

    On another note, I know myself personally would want one of the new Mods to be more Ghost Mode Oriented.
  • Cypherrrr wrote: »
    Hm, is he by any chance in Sensation? If so, I do believe I am well aware of who he is.

    His IGN is [BLACKK] and he is a WOGL person.
    luxuryy wrote: »
    I (ColorBliind) would like to be part of this team if possible. I've taken part in the competitive side of CF (LifeLine, Serenity, Zen), my FPS(3+ years)/"general" experience is well developed and my intelligence level far surpasses that of 98% of this community.

    You were another person I considered putting on the list I posted, however again, you didn't seem to have posted a lot of good arguments for your opinion, just supported them. (Maybe we're just too fast) From what I've seen at least. Link me to something if you feel that I'm mistaken.
  • I'll you the reason we don't make elaborate posts/threads about it.

    We have the train track to the head honcho to discuss these things :p Why make a thread when we can just talk to Saidin/Fallen.

    Not that we shouldn't discuss things, But I don't feel i need to contribute to the same old threads about the same old issues again and again :P

    On another note, I know myself personally would want one of the new Mods to be more Ghost Mode Oriented.

    Then I have nothing to base the decision off of and you should be able to understand why I didn't include you.

    I included Bruce because he DOES post his opinion on threads that have been posted (alot), and I also take into consideration when he wasn't a MOD back in Suba.
  • Denxi wrote: »
    Then I have nothing to base the decision off of and you should be able to understand why I didn't include you.

    I included Bruce because he DOES post his opinion on threads that have been posted (alot), and I also take into consideration when he wasn't a MOD back in Suba.

    I would considering you silly if you did include me :P

    My point was more based towards the general redundance this may or may not have. And yes, Bruce is a post monkey :D

    And haaai, i was around in suba times too ya know :|
  • I would considering you silly if you did include me :P

    My point was more based towards the general redundance this may or may not have. And yes, Bruce is a post monkey :D

    And haaai, i was around in suba times too ya know :|

    I know you were around in Suba Times. However you weren't "publicly known" for as long as Bruce, and you weren't as active on the forums and in the community in general as Bruce.

    Although Bruce has a lot of posts, I assure you I'm not looking for quantity.
  • Denxi wrote: »
    His IGN is [BLACKK] and he is a WOGL person.



    You were another person I considered putting on the list I posted, however again, you didn't seem to have posted a lot of good arguments for your opinion, just supported them. (Maybe we're just too fast) From what I've seen at least. Link me to something if you feel that I'm mistaken.
    I usually don't voice my opinion for the simple fact that only a few people on here are actually able to understand the complexity of it. (That would be you, Bruce, Cypher, maybe WannabeJedi). However, if my job were to just that, I'm sure I'd find away to make my post/opinions more presentable/"user-friendly"

    Although, here's a topic of me apologizing to the community(make of it what you will).
    http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=44183&highlight=public+apology
  • Denxi wrote: »
    Z8 should make a QA team composed of 8-10 players. I realized the effect of this wouldn't be enormous on the game itself, as Z8 has no REAL control over it, however it may have small effects on the game and bigger effects on the community.

    IMO These are the most qualified people ATM for said team, with basic reasoning. Feel free to flame or complain, and GMs please post thoughts.

    Malte - Competitive SnD, Experience, General Intelligence
    Doop - Competitive SnD, Experience, General Intelligence
    Kahlahn - Competitive SnD, Experience, General Intelligence
    Bruce - Competitive SnD, Experience, General Intelligence
    Cypher - Competitive SnD, Experience, General Intelligence
    BobbyBlackk - Competitive GM, Experience, General Intelligence
    Myself (Denxi) - Advanced Movement and Glitch understanding, Competitive SnD, Experience, General Intelligence

    If you feel I missed a major person, post.

    If you feel I posted someone who doesn't deserve to be there, post.

    Note: Using the current group of MODs has been thought of, but when one of them says that the Red PSG is the best sniper currently in-game, that idea went down the toilet.
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  • Cypherrrr wrote: »
    I do believe the key word would be Quality Assurance. Hence there would be no real need for new mod's. It would take the forum more so of a community liaison.

    However, while it would be useful in highlighting specific issues... in the end it is up to the game developers. We can make as much noise as we want but in the end it falls upon deaf ears.

    But all that aside I can say with certainty that if you wanted any group of individuals in this community to make noise and highlight issues that list would certainly be good at it.

    ps: What drama llama? I have butted heads with Kahlan before in the past but even still he is probably one of the members of Trio that I have the most respect for... as for Doops and Malte I have had no real issues with them ever. Bruce and I go way back, Denxi and I have never had any real drama between each other. The only one of the list would be Bobby and I have no clue who that is.
    cypher i wub you

    but that's cause i was in serenity for a week before the gm's said me and ava couldn't ring in the first suba tourny