Obligatory Black Market rant
I know black market is a lottery so don't bother posting anything about it.
What are these glorious phoenix win rates? I've spun over 2400 crates on these badboys and I only got 8 permanents???? and guess what 2 of them are duplicates! and ofcourse I didn't finish
a single crate so no grenades for me!!!
I tell you these crates are rigged too oblivion. I've opened too many crates in the past and I've always have been much more succesfull.
In the past I've opened valentine crates. Got 7 rewards out of 460, chroma crates got 4 rewards out of 700 maybe.
Maybe I was just lucky in every other black market experience but this takes the cake.
I will never ever (not true) by zp again (probably next time glorious phoenix comes around). You're game is a ripoff (not true) and you will never see me again (I love this game)
EDIT: I spun the 40 free crate tickets I got and won the kukri glorious phoenix
finally something.
What are these glorious phoenix win rates? I've spun over 2400 crates on these badboys and I only got 8 permanents???? and guess what 2 of them are duplicates! and ofcourse I didn't finish
a single crate so no grenades for me!!!
I tell you these crates are rigged too oblivion. I've opened too many crates in the past and I've always have been much more succesfull.
In the past I've opened valentine crates. Got 7 rewards out of 460, chroma crates got 4 rewards out of 700 maybe.
Maybe I was just lucky in every other black market experience but this takes the cake.
I will never ever (not true) by zp again (probably next time glorious phoenix comes around). You're game is a ripoff (not true) and you will never see me again (I love this game)
EDIT: I spun the 40 free crate tickets I got and won the kukri glorious phoenix
finally something. Comments
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It's all up too luck I opened 1k callico crates and I didn't get anything, but I got the AEK in like 50 crates.
Yesterday i bought a random 50 crates and I got the desert eagle Glorious phoenix which finally gave me 1 grenade.
But today I spinned 250 of the other 2 crates (I only need the KAC and Axe) and didn't get a single item. I can't afford too spin more
so I'm just gonna have too pray that one day they return these crates so I can finish it off. -
Android8822 wrote: »It's all up too luck I opened 1k callico crates and I didn't get anything, but I got the AEK in like 50 crates.
Yesterday i bought a random 50 crates and I got the desert eagle Glorious phoenix which finally gave me 1 grenade.
But today I spinned 250 of the other 2 crates (I only need the KAC and Axe) and didn't get a single item. I can't afford too spin more
so I'm just gonna have too pray that one day they return these crates so I can finish it off.
this lol.... I hope glorious crates come back. -
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I made a similar thread recently. Win rates are horrible imo. I stopped spending money since I have to spend more than 100-200 bucks to win a single weapon. I even stopped doing most of the events as well, as I couldn't win anything from free crates. Meanwhile in CFEU I win a weapon every 50-100 crates and mostly from free event crates. Completely dissapointed from CFNA.
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just stop buying ZP, thats the best way to make pressu8re. when theyve started giving free crates because the majority isnt able to buy ZP. So theyve lost money ans decreased the winrate that we purchase more zp than before. We paid the free crates with a decreased win rate. Was it worth ? no
Only those who are too poor to buy ZP had a Win situation while we were the losers. Just stop buying ZP and let this game die. -
I have noticed that the lower you rank the better to odds. I've made a new account and my win rate is through the roof. My main acc. has won 1 perm weapon in 10 months. The most crates for a perm weapon on my new acc was 65 ZP crates. Only 6 months old and already 13 zp perms and 32 GP weapons. Oh well.
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[GM]Grumpy wrote: »Because you requested I will not mention anything about the lottery. But what I can tell you is that win rates don't change based on the skin of if the weapons are popular or not.
If I read throught the lines, you mean the win rates doesactually change but not based on those two criterias. And I experienced it myself, I won many Razer weapons from the bonus crates, in less than a hundred crates (that's how I come to the conclusion that being harder to get, the odds are increased). What I'm still curious about is how the achievement "Crate buster" actually "increases the win rate", what exactly is meant by that and if you need to set it as main achievement to actually benefit of its effects. Some clarifications would be nice as the previous managers never bothered explaining it.majthiller wrote: »I have noticed that the lower you rank the better to odds. I've made a new account and my win rate is through the roof. My main acc. has won 1 perm weapon in 10 months. The most crates for a perm weapon on my new acc was 65 ZP crates. Only 6 months old and already 13 zp perms and 32 GP weapons. Oh well.
Based on my own observations, I'm 100% sure this statement is true. I used to win much more back when I was Sergeant than today (Brigadier General). My low ranks accounts got equipped in no-time with ridiculous ammount of ZP. -
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This thread got kinda serious so I wanna talk my experiences with the black market.
It feels that the black market of today is more generous in giving permanent rewards then it was back in 2011 or so when I last played. I've spun quite alot in the past and my luck has always been good. The thing that I do
feel like that for me it's either a giant hit or a giant miss. It feels that it lacks consistency. For example. The valentine crates that I spun I managed too get 7 permanent rewards in 500 crates which is absolutely amazing.
For one of the glorious phoenix crates (I got them all now btw) I spun 700 crates too get 0 permanents. But then I spun 200 more a few days later and I suddenly got 3 permanent rewards. For the people who say that the black market has a low chance they probably only spun a couple 100 crates or so. That's too little of a ammount too make a good claim. For someone who spun more then 2k easily (and won alot) I can say that the actual winrate isn't that bad. But it does feel weird that I either win 3-4 permanents in X crates or 0. It doesn't really feel like it has a consistent 1 out of X base chance. -
majthiller wrote: »Finished my 90 mins in 9 days on both accounts. My main account 0 weapons, My new account, 2 perm glorious weapons. Only 9 crates each. wow. told you all, lower the rank, the better the odds.
BAAMM ! Can't argue with statistics when you got one example.
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