ZP Crates adjust?

Bakurer

I bought (really) many Farewell crates and lucky, i got 3 items
But its 2 times the same.
Does someone knows , if someday comes an fix, that you cant win the same item multiple times?
Sure, its nice to win stuff, but, if you spend much money and just got the same shi.. item, its damn annyoing =/

Mastermann

As someone who spun a bunch of hearts crates and ONLY got 4 AK-103 Hearts, I gotta say I'd love something that prevents you winning other items.

iAnarchy

master_mann wrote: »

As someone who spun a bunch of hearts crates and ONLY got 4 AK-103 Hearts, I gotta say I'd love something that prevents you winning other items.

+1 even though they probably won't implement something like this because it hurts their bottom line.

Bakurer

I spun over 160 crates for the OM-50 Nemesis and all i got: 2 Chainsaw shotguns and 1 Kac Chainsaw.
I won more GP Crate guns with less crates than ZP crates...
Shouldnt the chance to win a ZP Weapon higher than win a GP Gun?
For example: With 20 AK Camo crates I won that shi.. gun ><
The P228 Camo did I win with less than 30 Crates ...

Best example:
In CF Eu i won the Shadow Knife 2 times in 10 Crates ><
Sure, this is CF NA and not CF Eu, but i just wanna show what i mean.


Why isnt there the possibility to trade a Gun, that you won 2 or more times for an other Gun from that Crate?

nGhost

Bakurer wrote: »

I spun over 160 crates for the OM-50 Nemesis and all i got: 2 Chainsaw shotguns and 1 Kac Chainsaw.
I won more GP Crate guns with less crates than ZP crates...
Shouldnt the chance to win a ZP Weapon higher than win a GP Gun?
For example: With 20 AK Camo crates I won that shi.. gun ><
The P228 Camo did I win with less than 30 Crates ...

One example doesnt say anything about the win rate. Might just as well took you 50 crates for a zp gun and 1000 for a gp gun. Doesnt mean anything really.

Bakurer wrote: »

Why isnt there the possibility to trade a Gun, that you won 2 or more times for an other Gun from that Crate?

Because crossfire is a buisiness and adding such an option would mean a loss of profit.

Mastermann

Bakurer wrote: »

I spun over 160 crates for the OM-50 Nemesis and all i got: 2 Chainsaw shotguns and 1 Kac Chainsaw.
I won more GP Crate guns with less crates than ZP crates...
Shouldnt the chance to win a ZP Weapon higher than win a GP Gun?
For example: With 20 AK Camo crates I won that shi.. gun ><
The P228 Camo did I win with less than 30 Crates ...

Best example:
In CF Eu i won the Shadow Knife 2 times in 10 Crates ><
Sure, this is CF NA and not CF Eu, but i just wanna show what i mean.

It's luck lol.
Using my own luck as an example:

A-bolt shotgun - 1750+ GP Crates before I won.
AWM Platinum - 1 ZP crate.


And the other side of the scale:
XM8 Adv - 1 GP crate.
ANY glorious phoenix gun (Got AK47-S Glorious Phoenix) - ~400 ZP crates (ish?)

blackhart123

Still I'm pretty sure my account is blocked for winning a deagle camo. Been spinning since 2009/2010 (4000+ crates)

OT: would be good to see a option to not win mulitple of the same items, but definetly not necesarry imo.

Ixith

blackhart123 wrote: »

Still I'm pretty sure my account is blocked for winning a deagle camo. Been spinning since 2009/2010 (4000+ crates)

OT: would be good to see a option to not win mulitple of the same items, but definetly not necesarry imo.

lol it took my like 5000+ crates to win that micro-galil S or whatever in GP crates.

and generally, for most people, you're more likely to win a ZP gun in less crates than a GP gun. Most GP guns took me at least 250+ crates before winning them and some like the micro-galil S, Lewis Gun, A-bolt, to name a few took me over 1000 or more crates. Meanwhile I usually win ZP crates within 50-100 crates. A few exceptions being the rarer or more limited time stuff like New Glorious Phoenix crate took me about 200 crates to win my first weapon in it, Noble crates..., some of the limited time zodiacs, and others.

but as for the topic at hand....yea it would be nice to have something that prevented the duplicate issue or at the least had someway of exchanging duplicates for EP or Free Crate Tickets or flat out trading duplicate weapons to other players. But...like was said...it likely won't happen as it hurts the profitability margin for Z8 and the Devs. Our best chance is an event that allows us to trade them in IMO.

Another thing i've mentioned before and Grumpy even said was an interesting idea though he wasn't sure how possible it was to implement, was the idea of having it so that if you won Item A in a crate the chances of winning that one again go down a bit while slightly increasing your chances at winning the other perm items in the crate. So for example...say if you have a 2% chance at each of the 4 perm weapons in a 4 weapon crate. Then you win weapon A. Weapon A's chances at being won again would drop to 1% while B,C, and D's chances would increase to 2.33% each. Then if you won Weapon B afterwards it too would drop down to 1% and C and D's would increase up to 4% as you'd have won Item A and Item B so both of those would have decreased down to 1%. This effect would continue to increase to should you still win a duplicate before winning all of the rest of the items. So going back to if you win Weapon A 2 times before any of the others it would drop down to say 0.5% win chance and the others would increase up to ~ 1.45%
I'm sure with more thought put into and actual equations/algorithms used they could come up with something more exact and better. However, I think the way the game handles how weapons are won is a bit more complex than that and thus makes it hard to implement such an idea. alongside the fact you'd need to get the Devs on boards and view at worthy enough to actually bother coding and testing and tweaking it until it works properly.