The end?
As many of you are aware, there are lately waves of hackers coming to this game, the usual speed+ knife hack.
Is this company going to bankrupt? because this all seems that no ones cares about the game anymore, just come from a room with no less then 7 hackers, hackers are banned (big if) lately then allowed to create new accounts, this to me sounds very messed up sorry to say.
So when will it close?
Is this company going to bankrupt? because this all seems that no ones cares about the game anymore, just come from a room with no less then 7 hackers, hackers are banned (big if) lately then allowed to create new accounts, this to me sounds very messed up sorry to say.
So when will it close?
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As many of you are aware, there are lately waves of hackers coming to this game, the usual speed+ knife hack.
Is this company going to bankrupt? because this all seems that no ones cares about the game anymore, just come from a room with no less then 7 hackers, hackers are banned (big if) lately then allowed to create new accounts, this to me sounds very messed up sorry to say.
So when will it close?
if you want to hear my PERSONAL opinion -yes, that game is near to be closed. The last stage before closing - VIP guns for GP. When that will be possible here - be ready to closing CFNA. -
some of hacks like speed hack + 1 hit knife hack are back. Most of the hackers have low ranks so there is no point to report them as they will hack with new accounts.
This hacking situation is getting worse. The best solution is to update XignCode to detect the hackers and keep them out of the game. -
Thats the funny part and thats why i posted this.. the xing just got an update and it seems worst!some of hacks like speed hack + 1 hit knife hack are back. Most of the hackers have low ranks so there is no point to report them as they will hack with new accounts.
This hacking situation is getting worse. The best solution is to update XignCode to detect the hackers and keep them out of the game. -
if you want to hear my PERSONAL opinion -yes, that game is near to be closed. The last stage before closing - VIP guns for GP. When that will be possible here - be ready to closing CFNA.
oh okay..., your personal opinion is very useless here, people like you say since the year 2012 that this game will be closed soon, keep dreaming! This game is not perfect, sure for this, but i look positive into the future and not like you only negative! Have a nice day!
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oh okay..., your personal opinion is very useless here, people like you say since the year 2012 that this game will be closed soon, keep dreaming!
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i see what i see. Malfunctional servers, pack of low-rank players with speed/knife/fly/aim cheating here. Game protection didn't stop them, but is a one of reason of crush gameplay ingame (sometimes).. I told before and repeat now, what cheating at CFNA will be useful, while cheaters are free from REAL punishment for that. And i know only one REAL punishment for cheaters - money. While cheaters don't lose they money for cheating as a part of punishment, they will cheating more and more here. Last game one of that noobs without brain join to the ZM2 game and say "Hi, friends! I'm a hacker, so we can't lose in that room.." Question: who was the first, who leaving room as loser? :cool:Have a nice day!
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It's the circle of life for CrossFire. Lots of hackers > game updates > no hackers for a few weeks > hackers slowly increase in number over a few months > lots of hackers > game updates... etc.
Hopefully there will be some kind of anticheat/ game update soon that gives us some peace for a while.
You don't want to hear it, but 2012 I would find aimbots in 90% of rooms, and I'm not finding as many here.
Personally, I think 2012 was at least a little bit worse, but I'd be lying if I said it wasn't pretty close
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If you don't think CF 2012 was worse in terms of hacking then you probably spent too much time in farm rooms or locked rooms with friends than in pubs. Or were using a hack yourself. Despite how bad it is now. it was at least 2x worse in most modes in 2012-2013 region. The biggest difference is we have about 2-3x the player base and hardly anyone had over 140-150 ping so less lag. And I'd argue the servers still had some stability in them.
Now that we've hit that remark....
They have been doing a LOT of Farewell/Goodbye Goodbuy crates lately.....maybe they trying to send a message in a semi-covert manner? lmao -
How 2 remove cheaters from the game?
Separate them!
1-st: make different registration.
Basic registration: current registration
Advanced registration: user add cell phone number. 1 number per 1 account. Never must been changed or removed.
User with basic registration can play only at NA1 or UK1 server.
User with advanced registration can play anywhere.
For advanced registration user can pay 5 USD (that's enough for SMS to any cell phone to receive activation number by SMS only). Z8Games can set reward for advanced registration, like a pack of ZP, temporary VIP etc.
If user with adv.registration is detected as cheater, his profile must be banned permanently, so - that user lose his account and can't use his cell phone number for adv.registration again.
There is a way to reduce cheaters in game, because there are more easy to clean UK1 and NA1, but not all servers. -
How 2 remove cheaters from the game?
Separate them!
1-st: make different registration.
Basic registration: current registration
Advanced registration: user add cell phone number. 1 number per 1 account. Never must been changed or removed.
User with basic registration can play only at NA1 or UK1 server.
User with advanced registration can play anywhere.
For advanced registration user can pay 5 USD (that's enough for SMS to any cell phone to receive activation number by SMS only). Z8Games can set reward for advanced registration, like a pack of ZP, temporary VIP etc.
If user with adv.registration is detected as cheater, his profile must be banned permanently, so - that user lose his account and can't use his cell phone number for adv.registration again.
There is a way to reduce cheaters in game, because there are more easy to clean UK1 and NA1, but not all servers.
That's just going to split the playerbase, not get rid of cheaters. -
I'm not sure whether or not the GMs/developers care about the cheating situation.
1. They haven't start any threads acknowledging the current events. The only threads we see started by them are events.
2. They beat around the bush when asked about a particular issue. I sent a ticket asking them to create a thread and acknowledge the cheating trend, and they sent me a copy paste message.
I would feel more at ease, knowing that the GMs acknowledge the cheating trend and tell us what things they're planning to do to effectively put a stop to cheating. Instead they're continuing to rely on the report system while failing to acknowledge the fact that cheaters can simply create new accounts again, rendering the ban useless. Of course they do go undercover and ban cheaters in game, but theres only a few GMs and the number of cheaters outnumber them. Also they can never know where the cheaters are. NA 1? UK 4? Which channel/room? While the GMs are stopping cheaters at a snail's pace, the number of cheaters continue to leave the GMs in the dust as their numbers continue to grow faster than they can get banned.
Of course this is not entirely the GMs fault, they have no control in modifying the game core structure. But they keep putting the community in the dark. The GMs are the only people who can get in contact with the people who are in charge of deciding what to implement into the game. -
master_mann wrote: »That's just going to split the playerbase, not get rid of cheaters.
yes. we separate 1-hours cheaters (sometimes old players create a new account just for fun/troll other players, join to the game with cheats and broke gameplay just for fun, because Z8Games HAVEN'T REAL punishment for that action) and ordinary players, who like to play game fair. 5 USD for adv.registration ISN'T a high price for fair play. And Z8Games can make different gifts to players for that donation. But, if player with that registration is banned, he lose account, money and ability to use that cell phone for another registration. FOREVER. -
Well seeing that hackers are not even bothering to hide their hacks shows that the hackers feel strong and pretty much own this game now... unless they were banned like they should be.
Anticheat isn't doing it's job and I feel like nothing will take place to fix up the system like all I can expect is some kind of update in the future talking about how they have been spending all this time finding a way to stop hackers and it's going to work for like 3 months then things will go back to square one and we will be making the same old threads again. Game won't die due to people loving to spend money ( and gotta love it when it's the same people who complain about how bad the game is going ) on this game and that's the games target right now just making the most cash by releasing more and more content and ways to gamble ( let's be honest the Bingo Event was the smartest money making idea that Z8 has ever came up with ).
I hope they actually start to listen and try to keep a steady flow on fixing the hacking situations so we don't have to keep going through these hards time when every room has at least five hackers but rather hacks are being patched and the system gets tighter cause seriously we are very close into going back into that 2012 era. -
Really wonder how they can download, install, and turn on hacks and go ingame completely clueless of what is going on. They just stand there looking around for mutants to get near and all that.
Only thing we have to do now is well... Report. If Z8 is really banning their PCs, the Cafes will eventually run out of PCs for them to play. -
Really wonder how they can download, install, and turn on hacks and go ingame completely clueless of what is going on. They just stand there looking around for mutants to get near and all that.
Only thing we have to do now is well... Report. If Z8 is really banning their PCs, the Cafes will eventually run out of PCs for them to play.
that's impossible. Z8Games can ban single IP, IP range/subnet, MAC of PC (set another LAN card or change MAC - and you can play again).
Z8Games can't ban PC by CPU or MB ID. So, relax.. -
that's impossible. Z8Games can ban single IP, IP range/subnet, MAC of PC (set another LAN card or change MAC - and you can play again).
Z8Games can't ban PC by CPU or MB ID. So, relax..
Yes they can. They just have to ban the HWID.
"The Hardware ID (HWID) is a set of numbers and letters (capital letters only) that uniquely identify your computer to any of our software. The HWID is made out of eighteen (18) characters e.g. 098H52ST479QE053V2 and it is used to unlock (register) our software in a computer."
I however doubt Z8 is actually using HWID bans I do hope they use it though. -
Yes they can. They just have to ban the HWID.
"The Hardware ID (HWID) is a set of numbers and letters (capital letters only) that uniquely identify your computer to any of our software. The HWID is made out of eighteen (18) characters e.g. 098H52ST479QE053V2 and it is used to unlock (register) our software in a computer."
I however doubt Z8 is actually using HWID bans I do hope they use it though.
You can change your HWID in less than 30 seconds, so unfortunately that's not going to stop many people. -
master_mann wrote: »You can change your HWID in less than 30 seconds, so unfortunately that's not going to stop many people.
If we are going like that then Z8 shouldn't even bother banning anyone at all as "it is not going to stop many people". When someone wants a way he can find it, that is natural. But HWID + IP ban together is the best shot at it. After all you will always have to change HWID and take a new VPN every single time. After some time it should just get bothersome for them. Hopefully. -
Well after this topic is here i wonder. is z8games a company or some kid project in the garage? the minimum anyone should do is at the least tell to PAYING costumers what is being done to prevent hackers and more important what compensatition will be handed to legit players that still stick with so much disrespect fromthis company.
And another thing crosses my mind: who does review reports? i have reports from like 3 years ago no opened. -
If we are going like that then Z8 shouldn't even bother banning anyone at all as "it is not going to stop many people". When someone wants a way he can find it, that is natural. But HWID + IP ban together is the best shot at it. After all you will always have to change HWID and take a new VPN every single time. After some time it should just get bothersome for them. Hopefully.
Banning players is not the solution. You can't keep people from coming back again. It's like having a house with a garden that has many fruit trees, but it's without any walls or fence or hedge. People and animals will trespass on your garden no matter what, and even if you chase them away, some more will come and trespass again. You're basically inviting them to steal your fruits and whatnot by keeping your garden open or easily accessible. The solution is to build fence, hedge or wall that'd make it very hard for anyone to enter your property. Similarly the only viable solution, that almost all major gaming companies invest in, is to employ better antihack measures. And by better, I mean state-of-the-art antihack measures. Imagine if Google, Facebook or Amazon were run by as incompetent team as SGW. But they're not, therefore they're the leaders. -
Banning players is not the solution. You can't keep people from coming back again. It's like having a house with a garden that has many fruit trees, but it's without any walls or fence or hedge. People and animals will trespass on your garden no matter what, and even if you chase them away, some more will come and trespass again. You're basically inviting them to steal your fruits and whatnot by keeping your garden open or easily accessible. The solution is to build fence, hedge or wall that'd make it very hard for anyone to enter your property. Similarly the only viable solution, that almost all major gaming companies invest in, is to employ better antihack measures. And by better, I mean state-of-the-art antihack measures. Imagine if Google, Facebook or Amazon were run by as incompetent team as SGW. But they're not, therefore they're the leaders.
they will have better anti-hak measures just when profit will go down or a lot of players will stop play this game because of hakers -
they will have better anti-hak measures just when profit will go down or a lot of players will stop play this game because of hakers
Well yeah but there are people willing to drop tons of cash into the game and complain about the problems just because they really need that new VIP... You would think the more players invest into the game the better the game would perform but that's taken a huge U-Turn.
All we can really do is look away from the issue until the GM's do something about it cause our say really has no change to how things plus they know how bad things are right now so it's either they are whipping something up or they can't be bothered to do anything about anything and that's when we can call it " The End"
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