A Sincere Message of Concern from a Dedicated Player
Now, you may all think this is racist or offensive but-- I've come to the conclusion that we cannot be sportsman-like with the Egyptians. No chivalry, nothing. "Why is that?" You might ask, and I'll tell you why: they are the most unfair, idiotic, and blood thirsty ravenous beast in the CF game. They first start out as rather dumb and slow players, very easy to kill but sometimes annoying, however they evolve into a deadlier type of animal, they hack. Even though some of them still come out as idiots, they have the power of hacking on their side which makes them a bit better. Their last evolution involves multiple hacks at once, making them godly and a blood seeking beast. No one can stop them at this point, not even the "almighty-kick-voting-that-for-some-reason-is-only-allowed-on-certain-modes" can stop them. You know who could? The Administrators. How? Simple, ban all the Egyptian IP addresses. Concluding my report, I've come to a realization: EGYS < DIRT. In all seriousness, egys are still less than dirt, and Z8 really needs to get this problem ASAP.
I am really so sick of these egys hacking and we can't do anything about it. Here are a few solutions that I've brainstormed and ideas of others that I came to offer:
1. Fix this hacking problem.
2. ACTUALLY TAKE PLAYERS' SUGGESTIONS IN THE TICKETS.
3. Create a script that automatically link bans by PC/IP addresses. (i.e. They hack on an account, it gets banned. They tried to create a new account but it doesn't work because their PC/IP has been blocked from the server.)
4. Ban all Egyptian IPs.
5. Hire more moderators in game with the ability to kick/ban. I can't say for sure about the rest of us, but if I got hired as a moderator, I wouldn't even ask about getting paid, I just want the good days of CF to be back, without the massive amounts of hacking.
6. OR you can have undercover mods so they can observe and do what's necessary to get rid of them.
7. AT LEAST make the reporting process a bit easier (perhaps an in-game report system).
You know this is a serious issue when the problem keeps coming back. Now I'm not saying that Z8 hasn't tried to do something, but the sheer number of hackers that's come back recently are unfathomable. With the amount of time and money that I've (not only me) invested in this game, I don't want to quit anytime soon just because I can't deal with the hackers. They amount of money that Z8 has earned from us players, Z8 should at least try harder in stopping the problem. Now we are all thankful for Z8 and the entertainment they've provided for us, but when we're this dedicated to the point where we're spending ACTUAL MONEY that we can use for much useful things, I'd like to see Z8 give back a little more, at least to solve this issue. The number of hackers went down before, but risen over the last couple of days. Most of these hackers are Egyptians, I'm not saying that to be offensive in anyway, the fact is no matter how you look at it, you know it's true. Now, I know it's not ALL egys that are causing the trouble; I know that high rank players have also been hacking, to which I sincerely apologize and I am deeply ashamed of, however Egyptians contribute most of the problems involve with hacking. Ask any players that play knife matches often, I'm sure you'll find more of them than you expected. Not even, I was recently in a gun match and a EGYPTIAN opponent were "golden HSing" every single one of us. At the end of the day, is it going to affect me personally besides being a little annoyed? No. However this doesn't mean it's okay for it to happen, this has gotten so out of hand that players are actually starting to QUIT because of them. Most of the times, players play CF for fun and to escape reality for a bit, but when things get bad personally they quit because of work or school. If the place that they go to, that they have dedicated so much to, to have fun has been tainted, corrupted by filthy cheaters then there is something truly wrong about this. I hope this gets out there, to someone with actual power, to Z8 so that we can end this pandemonium. If this gets lost with the rest of the threads, just know that I've tried my best to raise awareness on this issue and that I sincerely apologize for not being able to do anything.
If you agree with everything I've said above feel free to continue this list below, just sign your IGN.
1. Bruce
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Thank you all for your time, whether or not you actually even bothered to read all of it or even clicked on this thread. Thank you.
Best wishes,
Bruce
I am really so sick of these egys hacking and we can't do anything about it. Here are a few solutions that I've brainstormed and ideas of others that I came to offer:
1. Fix this hacking problem.
2. ACTUALLY TAKE PLAYERS' SUGGESTIONS IN THE TICKETS.
3. Create a script that automatically link bans by PC/IP addresses. (i.e. They hack on an account, it gets banned. They tried to create a new account but it doesn't work because their PC/IP has been blocked from the server.)
4. Ban all Egyptian IPs.
5. Hire more moderators in game with the ability to kick/ban. I can't say for sure about the rest of us, but if I got hired as a moderator, I wouldn't even ask about getting paid, I just want the good days of CF to be back, without the massive amounts of hacking.
6. OR you can have undercover mods so they can observe and do what's necessary to get rid of them.
7. AT LEAST make the reporting process a bit easier (perhaps an in-game report system).
You know this is a serious issue when the problem keeps coming back. Now I'm not saying that Z8 hasn't tried to do something, but the sheer number of hackers that's come back recently are unfathomable. With the amount of time and money that I've (not only me) invested in this game, I don't want to quit anytime soon just because I can't deal with the hackers. They amount of money that Z8 has earned from us players, Z8 should at least try harder in stopping the problem. Now we are all thankful for Z8 and the entertainment they've provided for us, but when we're this dedicated to the point where we're spending ACTUAL MONEY that we can use for much useful things, I'd like to see Z8 give back a little more, at least to solve this issue. The number of hackers went down before, but risen over the last couple of days. Most of these hackers are Egyptians, I'm not saying that to be offensive in anyway, the fact is no matter how you look at it, you know it's true. Now, I know it's not ALL egys that are causing the trouble; I know that high rank players have also been hacking, to which I sincerely apologize and I am deeply ashamed of, however Egyptians contribute most of the problems involve with hacking. Ask any players that play knife matches often, I'm sure you'll find more of them than you expected. Not even, I was recently in a gun match and a EGYPTIAN opponent were "golden HSing" every single one of us. At the end of the day, is it going to affect me personally besides being a little annoyed? No. However this doesn't mean it's okay for it to happen, this has gotten so out of hand that players are actually starting to QUIT because of them. Most of the times, players play CF for fun and to escape reality for a bit, but when things get bad personally they quit because of work or school. If the place that they go to, that they have dedicated so much to, to have fun has been tainted, corrupted by filthy cheaters then there is something truly wrong about this. I hope this gets out there, to someone with actual power, to Z8 so that we can end this pandemonium. If this gets lost with the rest of the threads, just know that I've tried my best to raise awareness on this issue and that I sincerely apologize for not being able to do anything.
If you agree with everything I've said above feel free to continue this list below, just sign your IGN.
1. Bruce
2.
3.
Thank you all for your time, whether or not you actually even bothered to read all of it or even clicked on this thread. Thank you.
Best wishes,
Bruce
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Now, you may all think this is racist or offensive but-
I don't THINK it's racist. It IS racist. Pure and simple. You're saying every player from a particular place are hackers and worse than dirt.
I'd rather have more people from Egypt in the game than more people who spew their racist filth all over the forums. -
I get your frustration some don't have no braincell at all and ruin others game by cheating ESPECIALLY in HMX or just follow you or block you /spawn entrance in tdm and get you fed up. But there are some that are not like the rest which I don't mind letting use a VIP because they asked nicely and don't just run in front of you and crouch spam while you're being shot at by enemy.
Plus if they claim to be frequently updating this trash anti which I highly doubt since it only disconnects me and gives me errors and seeing the increased cheaters for a good while now it makes me even more suspicious. -
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woow a lot of insult and racist from you
actually z8 care of the Egyptian players there were a tournament here in Egypt with a good prizes like crossfire unplugged ribbon
simply the majority of CFNA players from Egypt so that most of the hackers from Egypt
what you can do is save and report
what z8 should do is updating its anti cheat -
i dont think all egyptians use hak, there is a saying in my country "u can not find forest without brushwood",
so every comunity from every country have a few hakers, some more some less.
the problem as i see is maybe z8 could limit the acces to the game by age in some
kind of way, i am 100% sure the 95% of hakers are under 15 age , and if z8
could restrict the acces to game at least under 15 years or maybe even 18 years
our problem with hakers would be solved if not all , sure by 95%.
P.S. i forgot to say that i think age limit restriction would not affect
the amount of money z8 gain from players becuase anyway
the majority of the kids dont have money to buy zp
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Lately i've been noticing a lot of English speaking people are the one's that are hacking in my rooms as well as a lot of Asian players. I think the vast majority of the Egy's aren't cheating (keep in mind they take up a large portion of the player-base so even though you see a lot of egy hackers its still the minority). As for Egy's = money, i'd disagree. They don't spend nearly as much as the NA/UK player-base even though in numbers they account for probably 70% of the game.
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Lately i've been noticing a lot of English speaking people are the one's that are hacking in my rooms as well as a lot of Asian players. I think the vast majority of the Egy's aren't cheating (keep in mind they take up a large portion of the player-base so even though you see a lot of egy hackers its still the minority). As for Egy's = money, i'd disagree. They don't spend nearly as much as the NA/UK player-base even though in numbers they account for probably 70% of the game.
Yup. Specially if you play at night, you gonna find quite a few hackers that are from NA. Not as much though, not seeing that many hackers now... -
Most hackers like to stick to modes that they can't be kicked in like FFA, HM/HMX/MM/ZM and ranked mode.What are you guys playing to always see a hacker in every room? In the span of an entire month (Entirety of august) I have only seen a single hacker. I am only playing S&D though, so maybe that is the reason I don't see anyone? -
Really? I wouldn't. This wouldn't happen ifmaster_mann wrote: »I don't THINK it's racist. It IS racist. Pure and simple. You're saying every player from a particular place are hackers and worse than dirt.
I'd rather have more people from Egypt in the game than more people who spew their racist filth all over the forums.
1. The Egyptians themselves never hacked in the first place.
2. A certain group of people working on this game would do something so I don't have to go around hating egyptians and spew my "racist filth" all over the forums. I can't find any where else that can raise awareness on this issue besides the forum.
Over all, either you agree with me and support me, or you don't. The fact is that egys are the one that's hacking. You say it's racist, but it's true. Now, I'm saying that to generalize the hackers, because I've mostly seen egyptian hackers, there are non-egyptian hackers also and I think they're less than dirt also. I don't mean that about every egyptian players, I actually know some good egyptian players that are LEGIT. I'm saying what I said above to generalize the hackers, because frankly with the amount I've seen, I can't even remember all of them. Understand now? I hope this soothes your offended soul. -
Yeah, there are those people too. If they feel they need to cheat though, I'm speechless. That just means they're trash. I'm saying "egyptians" as a general term because that's mostly what I see everyday. I don't know if there's a server difference? UK has more other race hackers while NA has more Egypt hackers?Lately i've been noticing a lot of English speaking people are the one's that are hacking in my rooms as well as a lot of Asian players. I think the vast majority of the Egy's aren't cheating (keep in mind they take up a large portion of the player-base so even though you see a lot of egy hackers its still the minority). As for Egy's = money, i'd disagree. They don't spend nearly as much as the NA/UK player-base even though in numbers they account for probably 70% of the game. -
Really? I wouldn't. This wouldn't happen if
1. The Egyptians themselves never hacked in the first place.
2. A certain group of people working on this game would do something so I don't have to go around hating egyptians and spew my "racist filth" all over the forums. I can't find any where else that can raise awareness on this issue besides the forum.
Over all, either you agree with me and support me, or you don't. The fact is that egys are the one that's hacking. You say it's racist, but it's true. Now, I'm saying that to generalize the hackers, because I've mostly seen egyptian hackers, there are non-egyptian hackers also and I think they're less than dirt also. I don't mean that about every egyptian players, I actually know some good egyptian players that are LEGIT. I'm saying what I said above to generalize the hackers, because frankly with the amount I've seen, I can't even remember all of them. Understand now? I hope this soothes your offended soul.
Ok, but by your own statement here if we did actually ban every egy's IP then 1) it wouldn't solve the hacking problem because we'd still have hackers and 2) we'd be banning a lot of players who are legit and did nothing wrong. You see the problem there? The only thing that is going to solve the hacker problem is to get a good anti-cheat and have support double down on the amount of people they ban.
Egys play on both servers, probably more on the UK. If I had to guess i'd say there's an even distributing of hackers on each server, and of those hackers not all are egys like we've already agreed upon.Yeah, there are those people too. If they feel they need to cheat though, I'm speechless. That just means they're trash. I'm saying "egyptians" as a general term because that's mostly what I see everyday. I don't know if there's a server difference? UK has more other race hackers while NA has more Egypt hackers? -
Ok, but by your own statement here if we did actually ban every egy's IP then 1) it wouldn't solve the hacking problem because we'd still have hackers and 2) we'd be banning a lot of players who are legit and did nothing wrong. You see the problem there? The only thing that is going to solve the hacker problem is to get a good anti-cheat and have support double down on the amount of people they ban.
Egys play on both servers, probably more on the UK. If I had to guess i'd say there's an even distributing of hackers on each server, and of those hackers not all are egys like we've already agreed upon.
That's only one of many better solutions, besides if there was a better anti-cheat this wouldn't be happening. Huh, I don't really play on the UK servers that often, but there are a lot of hackers on NA. -
Please tell me you're joking. I think of a few reasons: You haven't been on since 2014, you're blind, you aren't really branching out to different game modes, or you are a hacker and you're trying to defend yourself?PizzaFrozen wrote: »i haven't seen a hacker on cf since 2014 so i think u guys are either lying or need to learn the difference between pro players and hacks -
That is not how you speak to the March of the Ghosts 2017 champion. I'll let you off with a warning this time but watch your words next time.Please tell me you're joking. I think of a few reasons: You haven't been on since 2014, you're blind, you aren't really branching out to different game modes, or you are a hacker and you're trying to defend yourself?
Anyway, I think Xtrap has done a fantastic job since 2014 to eradicate the hacking problem, I haven't seen any since then. -
PizzaFrozen wrote: »That is not how you speak to the March of the Ghosts 2017 champion. I'll let you off with a warning this time but watch your words next time.
Anyway, I think Xtrap has done a fantastic job since 2014 to eradicate the hacking problem, I haven't seen any since then.
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Congratz..? The fact is that the hacking problem is still there. Go into any knife game, 9/10 there's going to be at least one hacker.PizzaFrozen wrote: »That is not how you speak to the March of the Ghosts 2017 champion. I'll let you off with a warning this time but watch your words next time.
Anyway, I think Xtrap has done a fantastic job since 2014 to eradicate the hacking problem, I haven't seen any since then. -
Current Hacking situation is much better than it used to be. However, i gotta agree with OP in a sense that majority of the hackers are from Egypt.
I saw only 2-3 native English speaking hackers in my whole 8 years of CF life so i don't think that we can blame "everyone". Yeah sure it is impracticable to ban all of the Egys but we can't ignore the truth.
Thanks to the crossfire's era of hackers (2011-2014), my death is over 100k and all of the credit goes to egy hackers or hackers who happened to be egy. Even all of this reality, i still think that calling egys worse than dust is not the right thing. It is against the rules of this forum as well as ethically wrong. -
Well as I see it, it was terrible when I first started the game in 2011, The hacking disappeared around 2012 and I hadn't seen it at large until recently (2017). When it first appeared recently, it was really bad, it got better but now it's getting worse again. And I do apologize for being rude however when you have almost every single game ruined by hackers that are most of the time egyptians, it gets on your nerves. You go in another room to release that stress built up from the last game and there's another hacker in the room now. There's absolutely nothing you can do, while I do think what I said is a bit racist, I feel like that minuscule amount of racism is justified considering their actions.Current Hacking situation is much better than it used to be. However, i gotta agree with OP in a sense that majority of the hackers are from Egypt.
I saw only 2-3 native English speaking hackers in my whole 8 years of CF life so i don't think that we can blame "everyone". Yeah sure it is impracticable to ban all of the Egys but we can't ignore the truth.
Thanks to the crossfire's era of hackers (2011-2014), my death is over 100k and all of the credit goes to egy hackers or hackers who happened to be egy. Even all of this reality, i still think that calling egys worse than dust is not the right thing. It is against the rules of this forum as well as ethically wrong. -
I can understand your frustration. I feel the same thing as you. The fact that even most of the non-hacking egys are not any less than their counterparts makes me even more angry for example they deliberately throws flash bang at you if you don't give them your weapon or they will chase you down for the weapon until you die.Well as I see it, it was terrible when I first started the game in 2011, The hacking disappeared around 2012 and I hadn't seen it at large until recently (2017). When it first appeared recently, it was really bad, it got better but now it's getting worse again. And I do apologize for being rude however when you have almost every single game ruined by hackers that are most of the time egyptians, it gets on your nerves. You go in another room to release that stress built up from the last game and there's another hacker in the room now. There's absolutely nothing you can do, while I do think what I said is a bit racist, I feel like that minuscule amount of racism is justified considering their actions.
The most common kind of sickening attitude which almost all of them shares is that after turning to mutants (In MM/HM/HMX) they starts to beg (by constantly tapping crouch button) in front of you for not to shoot them but as soon as you turn around they mutates you. Any player who plays any kind of mutation mode would confirm that. -
Hacking disappeared in 2012??? What game were you playing? 2012-13 were the worst for hacking and then it's slowly been decreasing since then. I've played since 2009 and can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that the hacking problem now doesn't come close to how bad it used to be. That being said there ARE still hackers in the game, but they are few and far between and if you play modes which don't have kick votes then that's where you'll find them.Well as I see it, it was terrible when I first started the game in 2011, The hacking disappeared around 2012 and I hadn't seen it at large until recently (2017). When it first appeared recently, it was really bad, it got better but now it's getting worse again. And I do apologize for being rude however when you have almost every single game ruined by hackers that are most of the time egyptians, it gets on your nerves. You go in another room to release that stress built up from the last game and there's another hacker in the room now. There's absolutely nothing you can do, while I do think what I said is a bit racist, I feel like that minuscule amount of racism is justified considering their actions. -
"racist !" You can argue for hours, this magical word make the opponent in the wrong.
This card is overused.
Definition of racism (short version) : Thinking that a race is superior to another, in the mankind. I do not see any of that in the OP
I do not agree on everything, the ultimate solution is to ban the IP MAC ( Permanent or not ) Problem solved. -
Maybe it was still there then, I don't really remember that well. Even so, hacking disappeared for a good while, 3 years at least for me. Then this tragedy happened. Still is bad, no matter if you've compared to the old days. There are still an abundance of them, maybe it's different for guns but I play knife matches a lot and they appear there a lot with speed knifing. Whether or not I play modes with kick or not, I can be in SnD and still find them, but most of the time they don't even get kicked because the other team are egyptians also, and that's where it starts to really **** me off.Hacking disappeared in 2012??? What game were you playing? 2012-13 were the worst for hacking and then it's slowly been decreasing since then. I've played since 2009 and can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that the hacking problem now doesn't come close to how bad it used to be. That being said there ARE still hackers in the game, but they are few and far between and if you play modes which don't have kick votes then that's where you'll find them. -
SandraFrench wrote: »Definition of racism (short version) : Thinking that a race is superior to another, in the mankind. I do not see any of that in the OP
Hmm how about this?EGYS < DIRT
They are saying that the Egyptian race is inferior to dirt. That, by your definition, is racism.I feel like that minuscule amount of racism is justified considering their actions.
So... If some people out of a group do something wrong, that means racism is justifiable. Got it.
If I were to go in game right now and find a hacker who happens to be Egyptian, I guarantee you there are at least 5 times as many Egyptian players in the room who AREN'T hacking.
Don't try and justify your racist views just to make yourself feel better. You're being racist, there is no "Oh but I can a little bit because..."
P.S.
If you want to use "Egys" as a term to describe hackers without sounding racist, why not just use the word "hackers"? See, that word already exists and it's not singling out a group of people over the actions of a few! -
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