Is this Pistol Event a bit unfair?
I've pretty much done everything for the Event, I only really need to get 3 more hours and everything on the list done but now it's time for to keep spinning for some kind of pistol to fully finish the Event and get the Ribbon. Now this requires luck rather than me just putting in time into the game by playing an certain amount of hours or trying to achieve enough kills no one can truely control this at all you could be lucky and won a pistol on the first day of the Event or found out you pretty much wasted your time since you were unlucky to get anything from the BM.
I ain't like super against the whole idea since the Event is pretty simple so I guess this was the diffcult challenge but it's just a bit uncontrollable and I just don't want to see more event's following the same steps.
I ain't like super against the whole idea since the Event is pretty simple so I guess this was the diffcult challenge but it's just a bit uncontrollable and I just don't want to see more event's following the same steps.
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I wish each section of the event awarded its EP instantly upon finishing. As then it'd be a bit more fair to free to play players who perhaps don't have millions of GP stashed up to use on GP pistol crate and ensure a win, since they could then try for the D.E.Scope or other pistol on the EP using EP from the event itself and likely even if they don't win there...they'd make a fair bit of GP in those crates so they'd have more GP to use on GP crates and attempt a win to finish the event.
As it stands....yea if you're a free to play player and/or you don't have a lot of GP stashed away and spending on ZP isn't an option. You probably can't finish the full event and thus miss out on 24k EP and a Ribbon.
But...then again all of the re-released limited edition ribbons have always had some kind of hitch to them to make them harder for everyone to get as to limit the amount of people getting them on the re-release end. -
As it stands....yea if you're a free to play player and/or you don't have a lot of GP stashed away and spending on ZP isn't an option. You probably can't finish the full event and thus miss out on 24k EP and a Ribbon.
But...then again all of the re-released limited edition ribbons have always had some kind of hitch to them to make them harder for everyone to get as to limit the amount of people getting them on the re-release end.
24k? I'm sure it's 20k for completing the whole Event, also even if they don't win Pistol they can earn 16,000 EP by doing 50 Headshots, 50 Pistol games, 250 Pistol kills and 10 hours Pistol Game play. -
CamelSoldier wrote: »24k? I'm sure it's 20k for completing the whole Event, also even if they don't win Pistol they can earn 16,000 EP by doing 50 Headshots, 50 Pistol games, 250 Pistol kills and 10 hours Pistol Game play.
The point is that you could put in all that time but still you fully can't complete the whole Event if you are unlucky. Sure you can win the EP for the certain tasks but you would do all the tasks which only wants you to play the game but if you can't win one pistol from the BM then you can't get the ribbon meaning you pretty much wasted your time since I doubt anyone is doing this event just for the EP. -
Winning a perm pistol is all about luck. I know some people used under 50 crates to get a perm pistol. And I also know people that bought more than 500 crates. I hope the next event will be only for having effort. Also gms check more the pistol only. I see a lot of bots, especially on sheep mode. Since the Kills and Death won't be saved in the sheep mode games.
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minorninja wrote: »Winning a perm pistol is all about luck. I know some people used under 50 crates to get a perm pistol. And I also know people that bought more than 500 crates. I hope the next event will be only for having effort. Also gms check more the pistol only. I see a lot of bots, especially on sheep mode. Since the Kills and Death won't be saved in the sheep mode games.
think the solution here isnt the mods watch out for players farm event,
the solution is never ask things like this in events, because
for so many hours even non-farmers will start farm.and where is this
getting us ? encourage farming, which is not good.
so i would suggest dont add goal of hours playing any special kind of game
in the future event, maybe just hours of play all kinds of game , that players do anyway. -
think the solution here isnt the mods watch out for players farm event,
the solution is never ask things like this in events, because
for so many hours even non-farmers will start farm.and where is this
getting us ? encourage farming, which is not good.
so i would suggest dont add goal of hours playing any special kind of game
in the future event, maybe just hours of play all kinds of game , that players do anyway.
To be honest there will always be farmers if the event's require you to get a certain amount of kills or anything along those lines. But I see your point with how these events are pushing the limit too far.
Events nowadays kinda want you to put CF into your life if you want everything done rather than playing at your own time doing certain goals and going on with your day, I can't see myself doing much event's once the hoildays are over since I can't put CF infront of other stuff such as school and sleep lol. -
Bought 90 crates and won it on 44th. Pretty decent since I didn't own this one.
Don't lose hopes. Go for it. I'd spend all my GP if I couldn't win it. GP you can get easily, but not limited ribbons. I won the same way with Luck of the Irish ribbon too. Just go for it. -
CamelSoldier wrote: »24k? I'm sure it's 20k for completing the whole Event, also even if they don't win Pistol they can earn 16,000 EP by doing 50 Headshots, 50 Pistol games, 250 Pistol kills and 10 hours Pistol Game play.
yes 24k. You're forgetting about the 4k they won't get for the 'winning a pistol'. As it's 4k for each part of the event which there are 5 of. since they can't finish that part of it they get 16k and lose out on the 4k from pistol win and then the 20k for the overall completion bonus.
but over while they can certainly still get rewards they're missing out on the majority of rewards due to this. To which the only reason I can see that being a thing is the fact it's a re-release of a limited edition ribbon and they always make it harder to get those. Example being the re-release of the Ironman required A LOT of hours in a pretty short amount of time...then Conquistador required buying that ZP character. ETC ETC. They're not meant to be a simple thing to acquire on re-release.
I do think maybe they could have set up this event...and perhaps will future events of a similar style...so that you get some of the Extra Completion EPs upon completing multiple tasks...So something like
-Complete Any task and get 4k EP
-Completing 2 Tasks gets you the EP for those tasks + small portion of potential bonus (say 1/4 of it)
-Completing 3 tasks gets you the EP for those tasks + even more of potential bonus (1/2 of it)
-Completing 4 tasks gets you the EP for those tasks + most of the potential bonus (3/4 of it)
-Completing all tasks gets you the EP for those tasks + the full EP completion bonus amount + ribbon
as in an event like this...the Ribbon is the biggest completion bonus but the EP is still quite desirable. Allowing a tiered thing for the bonus completion EP would still allow Free to Play players who in this case, fail to win the pistol, would still get a good portion of the rewards just minus the ribbon and some of the bonus EP.
EDIT: As for the farming talk....as long as the full rewards are open to everyone (mean non-competitives that only reward top X amount of players) and the rewards have a maximum/cap/limit of some kind to them then farming isn't too big of an issue IMO. Now if they made an event that was clearly only able to be finished if you completely no lifed the event or farmed...but still fell into those realms of 'open to everyone' and maximum/capped rewards amount then there's be a bit of an issue. But I think for the most part the GMs GENERALLY know where to draw the line on what an average player is able to do with a bit of effort and determination. I'd argue a few times recently they over-estimated that aspect would be the Mutation Marathon stuff which was a bit much considering the Mode and the Play 60 hours for draws in Bingo was a bit insane for the time period especially for the amount of draws to be given for such a task... -
m12_sprayer wrote: »Its a different approach, I don't mind it. It keeps the old ribbons worth working hard for (playing multiple games to earn gp if you can't win a pistol).
You could play multiple games to earn GP and still end up not winning any kind of pistol from the BM. That's the problem it's not like any of the tasks which are under your control by just playing the game and following the steps, winning from the BM takes luck and that can be you paying 2000 GP for 1 crate and winning some kind of pistol or paying up 5mil GP or so what and getting nothing. I've got 600K GP that I could easily dash into this event if needed to but I am not going to risk it all knowing that there's a chance that I may not win anything.
Event's like theses shouldn't have anything to do with risk and rewards.
Now I feel like this task could of easily been changed to just buying a Pistol from the Item Store. Now I know that's sounds super easy and all but that would still require GP and people with a ton of GP have nothing to lose spending it all in the BM since they really don't have anything else to do with the GP but people who have alot less GP to put around would just have to work hard enough to be able to purchase one from the Item Store. Both parties would be happy since one doesn't have to keep on buying crates until they win something and the another doesn't need to keep on wasting their time only to get nothing out of it. Yeah it's more simple but just making the other tasks a bit more harder would balance it all out at the end of the day and keep everyone happy. -
AlwaysSnipin wrote: »You could play multiple games to earn GP and still end up not winning any kind of pistol from the BM. That's the problem it's not like any of the tasks which are under your control by just playing the game and following the steps, winning from the BM takes luck and that can be you paying 2000 GP for 1 crate and winning some kind of pistol or paying up 5mil GP or so what and getting nothing. I've got 600K GP that I could easily dash into this event if needed to but I am not going to risk it all knowing that there's a chance that I may not win anything.
Event's like theses shouldn't have anything to do with risk and rewards.
Now I feel like this task could of easily been changed to just buying a Pistol from the Item Store. Now I know that's sounds super easy and all but that would still require GP and people with a ton of GP have nothing to lose spending it all in the BM since they really don't have anything else to do with the GP but people who have alot less GP to put around would just have to work hard enough to be able to purchase one from the Item Store. Both parties would be happy since one doesn't have to keep on buying crates until they win something and the another doesn't need to keep on wasting their time only to get nothing out of it. Yeah it's more simple but just making the other tasks a bit more harder would balance it all out at the end of the day and keep everyone happy.
Well it took me 300k gp to win the beretta from gp. So your chances of winning with 600k are pretty good. -
m12_sprayer wrote: »Well it took me 300k gp to win thw beretta from gp. So your chances of winning with 600k are pretty good.
Well clearly from other people posts they have spent 600k+. It's luck base you can invest everything into it there's still the chance of not winning anything. -
This isn't a difficult challenge. An unreasonably difficult challenge is trying to play 60 hours for 20 Bingo draws in exactly 10 days. That is what i'd say for sure is an 'unreasonable challenge'. This one is completely fine with me because it's actually possible for me to complete. Also the event doesn't necessarily require that you play 10 hours that is only for the Crate Tickets. You still get EP for the rest of them if you don't complete that.
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AlwaysSnipin wrote: »Well clearly from other people posts they have spent 600k+. It's luck base you can invest everything into it there's still the chance of not winning anything.
Anything over 600k gp and not winning is PURE bad luck, very unlikely you won't win. I have over 10 gp crates, and never once did I use over 500k gp and not win anything. -
m12_sprayer wrote: »Anything over 600k gp and not winning is PURE bad luck, very unlikely you won't win. I have over 10 gp crates, and never once did I use over 500k gp and not win anything.
I think I opened between 1.3k-1.5k crates of the m14 show your skin gp crate and never won it, wasted close to 5m. :]
Buttt thankful I won that p228 camo in 1 crate, for this event. -
oSasuke*** wrote: »I think I opened between 1.3k-1.5k crates of the m14 show your skin gp crate and never won it, wasted close to 5m. :]
Buttt thankful I won that p228 camo in 1 crate, for this event.
I should have said excluding the show your skin, I don't count those as normal gp weapons. I spent 2 million gp for the deagle canadian win, 6 million gp for the awm win, and 200k gp for m14 win. Those crates were not normal gp crates, very expensive and straight up lower win rate.
In that case I have over 13 gp crate wins. I didn't even count them in my analysis earlier.
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