This game has a terrible win rate.

The only thing I enjoy about this game is every year or so I will buy 100k zp and spin to win some crates. The rest of the game is ass. Anyways, I saw the crate sale and bought 250 gold scar crates figuring its a gun I've always wanted. I don't win anything. I don't know what they did to this game, but they're trying their hardest to squeeze out money. The win rate in this game is so incredibly low its discouraging. Am I the only one with this terrible luck?

EDIT: Here is what I would like the community to know. This was the removed thread. Any support would be great from you guys.

Hey guys, I have been reminiscing about the days when this game had a good BM win rate. I feel that if the win rate was currently not so low, more people would be willing to spin crates, as it would be much more enticing. Think about it. Right now, there is a pretty low demand for BM guns (VIPs as alternatives, or just not spending money on pixelated weapons). On top of what I call a somewhat low demand, the supply is incredibly low. This game has reached a point where even spending nearly 100 dollars does not guarantee anything. With both supply and demand for BM guns pretty low, it seems like an unsuccessful business model. Other versions of CF have larger win rates and they are not failing nearly as bad. However, CFNA is struggling as a game, lets be honest here. I really believe that increasing the win rate could bring back money to this game that is currently elsewhere (CSGO, BF1, COD, etc...). If you guys agree with me, please let me know. I really want to see this game succeed again, and I think a higher win rate could reenergize the game. If this gains enough attention, maybe someone will listen.
Thanks for the read.
-m4a1erz
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  • m4a1erz wrote: »
    The only thing I enjoy about this game is every year or so I will buy 100k zp and spin to win some crates. The rest of the game is ass. Anyways, I saw the crate sale and bought 250 gold scar crates figuring its a gun I've always wanted. I don't win anything. I don't know what they did to this game, but they're trying their hardest to squeeze out money. The win rate in this game is so incredibly low its discouraging. Am I the only one with this terrible luck?

    Nope ur not alone. I bought like +200 crates of the golden sl, no luck.
    Just do events, gather ep and hope for the best :)
  • I think the Win rate has gotten better than before, but then again it could be based on lucky days :)
  • I think the Win rate has gotten better than before, but then again it could be based on lucky days :)

    It honestly didn't make a difference to me it's still just as bad. I have always either won in less than 50 crates or over 300 crates, maybe if I'm lucky I will win within 50-300 crates but my friend Terrify's luck has improved drastically. He won all 4 of the valentine weapons within 150 crates.
  • I think the Win rate has gotten better than before, but then again it could be based on lucky days :)

    Personally i'd argue the opposite. I've won gun in 1-2 crates before, but recently I've spun more crates than in the past with no wins. Even with the new "lucky" crate it seems i'm doomed for failure so I've stopped spinning crates all together. Occasionally i'll buy a VIP but crates seem like a waste of money to me anymore which is honestly sad because i'd really enjoy some of these guns and would even be willing to spend 50-100k if it actually gave me a good chance to win.
  • i believe in this "This game has a terrible win rate". true 100%
  • I agree. Even though I have 15 zp crate guns of which 5 are from my spent money and 10 are from free crates, I'm sure that I would have like 30-40 zp guns in cf eu for the same amount of crates spun trough all these years.
  • 'NOT wrote:
    dot;4446669']I agree. Even though I have 15 zp crate guns of which 5 are from my spent money and 10 are from free crates, I'm sure that I would have like 30-40 zp guns in cf eu for the same amount of crates spun trough all these years.

    Exactly this thing happened to me. I have like 10 ZP weapons on CFEu only from events and I have just spend only 70-80 euros.
    If they kept the win rate in NA as it was before I would still spend money to buy crates. But why waste money when I can't win anything?
  • 200+ zp crates in the new BM without a win , and the streak is continuing...
  • But why waste money when I can't win anything?

    Exactly, u got the point .
  • It's better to spend money on VIP's instead of crates.
  • Dark_DNA wrote: »
    It's better to spend money on VIP's instead of crates.

    Unless you don't want VIPs, though. For me, I personally don't care for them. Wish I could get back the ZP for all the VIPs I already bought. 0.0
  • I stooped spinning along time ago only 01235204584 who win the good stuf
  • -Looks at my pile of losing lottery tickets- You guys think YOU got it bad? :(
  • -Looks at my pile of losing lottery tickets- You guys think YOU got it bad? :(

    You got the chance to win money - We got the chance to win virtual stuff
  • -Looks at my pile of losing lottery tickets- You guys think YOU got it bad? :(

    404: Humor not found.
  • -Looks at my pile of losing lottery tickets- You guys think YOU got it bad? :(

    You guys should really consider some other ways to award the players with perm guns other than crates.What you did with the dog tags reward (perm armesal phoenix) was brilliant idea(could be great if you kept this new "perm gun for dog tags collection" thing as a default the for the coming years but change it to other <perm> gun every month).Or change the coupons guns more often.Not every one are "crates lovers " you know ...opened above 3000 ZP crates on the latest two years and won no thing :=(
  • tbh I like the win rate. If everybody have your gun you wont feel special using it. That's why I don't buy vips
  • 2ADL wrote: »
    tbh I like the win rate. If everybody have your gun you wont feel special using it. That's why I don't buy vips

    You prefer rare guns instead of good guns? Uh ok
  • Gigers wrote: »
    You prefer rare guns instead of good guns? Uh ok

    Just because the guns are rare doesn't mean they aren't good.
    The person you quoted clearly wants to stand out with their weapons.
    Loads of people have VIPs so they don't really stand out anymore.
  • 2ADL wrote: »
    tbh I like the win rate. If everybody have your gun you wont feel special using it. That's why I don't buy vips

    I feel the opposite. I wouldnt mind if the win ratio was as good as it was with the dragon crate we had on blackfriday.(or was it boxing day? )
  • swesub1 wrote: »
    I feel the opposite. I wouldnt mind if the win ratio was as good as it was with the dragon crate we had on blackfriday.(or was it boxing day? )

    Yeah black friday, it was awesome, I won four m4a1 ancient dragons and 3 barretts lol.
  • ghoster1 wrote: »
    Yeah black friday, it was awesome, I won four m4a1 ancient dragons and 3 barretts lol.

    Damn 4? XD i won 1 M4 and 2 barretts hahaha
    Inb4danahreplys
  • m4a1erz wrote: »
    Am I the only one with this terrible luck?

    I would say no, you're not. My luck isn't horrible, but it isn't really that good either.
    I got AWM Platinum in 1 crate. I didn't win anything in 150 Scar L Gold crates, and ~100 Red dragon crates. I didn't win anything in halloween crates until around ~300 or so. I won M1A1 in <40 crates, bat, deagle silencer, brick, deagle crimson all in ~50-100 crates.

    Recently I won AK47-A Sun Wukong in 1 crate, too.

    Sometimes I win easy, sometimes I spin hundreds with nothing.

    I'm not sure if the win rates have changed, because it's only been the last couple years I've actually been able to buy ZP, so I haven't spun any crates prior to 2013 ish.
  • i feel that only low egys ans big zp Consumers have luck on bm.
  • Chatto88 wrote: »
    i feel that only low egys ans big zp Consumers have luck on bm.

    I think I'd spent 20k zp total when I won AWM platinum in 1 crate, and that was from buying a character and getting 3 free crates. At that point I was neither a "low egy" nor a big ZP spender.

    Again, it's 100% luck.
  • Hey guys, I'm actually going to start a new thread as a petition for a higher win rate. I would appreciate your support if you feel the same way as me, so head on over and give it your thoughts! If we try, maybe the devs will listen...
    EDIT: My thread was removed. I think I'm going to learn from this. The people in charge here do not care what the community thinks. I'm extremely disappointed in the state of this game.
  • I played about 400 zp crates I have 2 accounts so 200 for each and I didn't win anything so as I saw one of the Mods said spin in the black market as long as u accept to lose :) So it's not u only :D
  • zoroegypt1 wrote: »
    I played about 400 zp crates I have 2 accounts so 200 for each and I didn't win anything so as I saw one of the Mods said spin in the black market as long as u accept to lose :) So it's not u only :D

    I promise you it is not only him because I have spun about 400 or so of the Dual Colt Hellfire crates and fell ******* Luck is luck and I guess fair is fair.
  • HeyImNJ wrote: »
    I promise you it is not only him because I have spun about 400 or so of the Dual Colt Hellfire crates and fell ******* Luck is luck and I guess fair is fair.

    Are you going to keep spinning? If so, good luck. Took me exactly 100 crates. Won it on the last crate. Probably be better to have Zalstis wish you good luck since he won it under 10 crates.
  • RiceTurtle wrote: »
    Are you going to keep spinning? If so, good luck. Took me exactly 100 crates. Won it on the last crate. Probably be better to have Zalstis wish you good luck since he won it under 10 crates.

    lol not completely 10 crates. Probably a total of 50. just 10 that day. Also....don't remind swaggy of that day....i won Thompson Hellfire in his face pretty much...right after he and his LastTwinkie clannies helped me with the celebrate 8 event that day...then turned around and won the colts a few hours later. Swagster was not happy. x] Now i just need to grab me an M1A1 before it disappears though!
    also funny side note. I literally told them in one of the ZM games we were doing that day that I was going to fail those 2 crates....and then I won. That's actually happened, or similar such circumstances, a few times with me. Such as when I won my Knight Ares I told abel or preset (whichever was in that room can't remember but I know it was one of them!) that they can keep their luck on the Ares B Knight attempts...and then literally went and won it shortly after. I also told Zawg to go lose right before he won his Jatimatic Sand Eagle as well...

    but yea i've had times before where i've gone 200 hundred crates and no win. It's been awhile....but that's how it was when I first started and I quickly learned to stop trying after 100 crates as to not waste too much money on a single crate. My luck really only changed about a year and 1 month ago (Feb 2016) that's when I started winning things consistently. Before then I had like 3 ZP guns now I have like 50 different guns and a few duplicates. Some crates still destroy me though....the Rebel crates don't like me at all particularly the ones with the shotguns in them....in fact crates with slugshot shotguns tend to troll me pretty hard...i mean sure i've won stuff out of both Ares A and Ares B....but Ares B, back before the new BM update, would always put that SPAS Ares 1 slot off on like every other spin when spinning those crates. I could probably come up with some other examples....but meh...

    Luck is luck. I wouldn't mind if the win rate was improved a little....but I doubt it ever will. I do think some new ways of getting weapons would be cool....like a 'puzzle system' I know it seems silly but say you can try a Timed puzzle of some sort for so much ZP. (puzzles gotta be randomized too so players get different ones and can't tell the other player the answers) win it in the time limit and get the Best item....finish it after the time limit and get some sort of consolation prize like a free crate ticket or coupons. I know kinda an odd...side feature for a game like this...but it'd be something different!