How to get rid of cheaters in ranked. Tutorial.

It's a suggestion / discussion.
That's what i think;

You should add a "Blacklist" function in ranked matches.
Example: I'm playing ranked. But what a mess , a cheater destroying the game.
But no worries , i can add him to personal ranked "blacklist".
Player in personal ranked blacklist = blacklisted person can't join the same ranked match with me.
Another cheater? Same action. They have to level up another account to destroy my ranked games.

I hope you can undrestand about what i am talking. And i know that you can't make your own content. But you can request that from Koreans.

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  • p4shka wrote: »
    It's a suggestion / discussion.
    That's what i think;

    You should add a "Blacklist" function in ranked matches.
    Example: I'm playing ranked. But what a mess , a cheater destroying the game.
    But no worries , i can add him to personal ranked "blacklist".
    Player in personal ranked blacklist = blacklisted person can't join the same ranked match with me.
    Another cheater? Same action. They have to level up another account to destroy my ranked games.

    I hope you can undrestand about what i am talking. And i know that you can't make your own content. But you can request that from Koreans.


    how about i bl all the good players so i play with egys?
  • Well, with how low the playercounts in ranked matches are, I don't think they can afford to put a Blacklisting system in place.

    If a player blacklists you because you simply were better than him, you won't be able to find any ranked match rooms because of how high the chances are of you meeting him again.
  • M1600wner wrote: »
    Well, with how low the playercounts in ranked matches are, I don't think they can afford to put a Blacklisting system in place.

    If a player blacklists you because you simply were better than him, you won't be able to find any ranked match rooms because of how high the chances are of you meeting him again.

    This is true in many ways.

    Player counts are low due to hackers....and while this could make it so you're prevented from playing with hackers and potentially increase the players in ranked....some people might overuse it to the point that there's no one playing. Perhaps a solution would be to create a Limited Personal Blacklist. So say you could black list 10 players. You can figure out the most common hackers you run across and black list them. Problem with that still is...they'd have to push the idea alongside another Ranked event as currently there's not enough people wanting to play to make even that feasible as if one person blacklists another then it could mean the ranked room not getting enough people to actually start a match.

    Something certainly needs to be done though especially if they're going to be putting more attention with allowing more maps and so on.
  • That would work if everyone playing cf was atleast semi-competitive and had high-moral, so I guess that's a nope.

    Also, 3 games - 5 different cheaters. Let's see how many centuries I'll have to wait to get them banned. Even him lololol: crossfire.z8games.com/profile/12156775
  • You know a game is trash when you cant even play ranked on it lmfao.
  • how about i bl all the good players so i play with egys?
    That would work if everyone playing cf was atleast semi-competitive and had high-moral, so I guess that's a nope.

    Well said...
  • So what if I blacklist every player who is better than me? Easy ranks? I don't think this would work all too well, even if it did let you avoid hackers.
  • No, Admins and mods need to spectate ranked games, but they are too lazy to do that, instead they will tell you to send support ticket and they will ignore it because it doesn't bring them any money.
  • No, Admins and mods need to spectate ranked games, but they are too lazy to do that, instead they will tell you to send support ticket and they will ignore it because it doesn't bring them any money.

    FIrst of all, you don't have to be so disrespectful. I have seen a considerable amount of cheaters that I reported get banned.
    Also spectating can't work due to the time difference. For example if i play a ranked match at 11.00 am local time (gmt +2) in America it's 4.00 am. You can't possibly expect from the GMs and mods to be working at 4.00 am, they're human beings, not robots.
    And yeah, not every cheater is being banned, but you have to consider the amount of hacking reports being sent daily, which they have to go through, both from legit reports and from noobs who can't believe someone could be "that good".
  • maybe disable the option that let you bring a friend with you? so few can hookup with low cheaters to help them rank?
  • So what if I blacklist every player who is better than me? Easy ranks? I don't think this would work all too well, even if it did let you avoid hackers.

    Oh my god. You don't know nothing about this game. You can't rank up in ranked against silvers. You won't be able to get higher than gold 5.
    To go up you have to win against higher players, Elo system.
  • maybe disable the option that let you bring a friend with you? so few can hookup with low cheaters to help them rank?

    I have a different solution for this: Playing in party with cheater? Permanent ban for both.
    Then those who cheating in ranked now won't have motivation to play. Because 95% of them boosting someone.
  • No, Admins and mods need to spectate ranked games, but they are too lazy to do that, instead they will tell you to send support ticket and they will ignore it because it doesn't bring them any money.

    +1........
  • No, Admins and mods need to spectate ranked games, but they are too lazy to do that, instead they will tell you to send support ticket and they will ignore it because it doesn't bring them any money.

    Well, only one active MOD with GM powers in game can clean the ranked matches,
  • Hmm, well we understand the idea behind it, the main concern is as many said if we all end up black listing each other, then the mode will stop to function. As many abuse it.

    The possible solution for Ranked Games is as follow

    * In Game Report System only for Ranked Games- During the game, if someone is hacking you click on report, select IGN, Hack type etc and the System will record for 1-2 rounds following that IGN player and would auto upload straight to Support to be viewed within 1-2 day as a priority.

    *2nd Solution - is to have GMs allocated 2 days in a week to patrol Ranked Game as observers and announce those times for that week- This allows Legit players to play Ranked 2 days a week on allocated time with GMs to catch Hackers- Might even be hack free times- If Hacker is spotted it's immediate kick from room and Permanent Ban.
  • "Tutorial" Came here hoping I see an actual tutorial and instead saw a suggestion 10/10 would clickbait again. Not saying your idea is bad but still .....
  • CF would actually be fun again if we could actually play ranked without cheaters.. imagine.
  • No offence but going in with perm banning powers and playing 5-10 ranked games every once in a while won't be too hard and will help immensely.
  • p4shka wrote: »
    Oh my god. You don't know nothing about this game. You can't rank up in ranked against silvers. You won't be able to get higher than gold 5.
    To go up you have to win against higher players, Elo system.

    1: Double negative. "Don't know nothing" means I know something.
    2: Blocking everyone better than me doesn't mean blocking everyone higher rank than me. Think about it. Not everyone in platinum/gold are gods at the game. Some got there by luck, by being carried, or by boosting. If I block the good players and leave the boosters or those I can beat, then I will be playing against higher ranks who aren't better. The ELO system is far from perfect so you will get good players in lower ranks and bad players in higher ranks.
    3: No need to be so disrespectful constantly. You could have just started with "You can't rank up against silvers" etc.
    Pyrex00 wrote: »
    No offence but going in with perm banning powers and playing 5-10 ranked games every once in a while won't be too hard and will help immensely.

    I think the problem is they wouldn't do it because it would take too much time. If a ranked match takes 30 minutes or so, and there isn't a cheater, that's 30 minutes wasted. If you do 2 in a row with no cheaters (Unlikely from what I've heard), that's an hour and what have you done at work, since it's their job? Nothing.
    That being said they could leave the match after a few rounds and find another, but that puts their team at a disadvantage so it's not really fair.
  • 1: Double negative. "Don't know nothing" means I know something.
    2: Blocking everyone better than me doesn't mean blocking everyone higher rank than me. Think about it. Not everyone in platinum/gold are gods at the game. Some got there by luck, by being carried, or by boosting. If I block the good players and leave the boosters or those I can beat, then I will be playing against higher ranks who aren't better. The ELO system is far from perfect so you will get good players in lower ranks and bad players in higher ranks.
    3: No need to be so disrespectful constantly. You could have just started with "You can't rank up against silvers" etc.



    I think the problem is they wouldn't do it because it would take too much time. If a ranked match takes 30 minutes or so, and there isn't a cheater, that's 30 minutes wasted. If you do 2 in a row with no cheaters (Unlikely from what I've heard), that's an hour and what have you done at work, since it's their job? Nothing.
    That being said they could leave the match after a few rounds and find another, but that puts their team at a disadvantage so it's not really fair.

    If you are not good player / cheater - you can't achieve high rank in ranked matches. Period. If you don't have much kills you won't get much points. In Gold 5 if you don't have atleast 10 kills/game you are not even getting any points.
    1 ranked S&D match takes 30 minutes? Just leave dude. Probably you never played this mode. Every game is 10 minutes +/- .

    "That being said they could leave the match after a few rounds and find another, but that puts their team at a disadvantage so it's not really fair."
    Just this quote. This prove that you don't know alot about this game. Once again.
    A GM can join every room as spectator and stay invisible. Even if it's 1vs1 , even with password , even ranked or CW.
    So , GMs won't affect the game process.
  • p4shka wrote: »
    If you are not good player / cheater - you can't achieve high rank in ranked matches. Period. If you don't have much kills you won't get much points. In Gold 5 if you don't have atleast 10 kills/game you are not even getting any points.
    1 ranked S&D match takes 30 minutes? Just leave dude. Probably you never played this mode. Every game is 10 minutes +/- .

    "That being said they could leave the match after a few rounds and find another, but that puts their team at a disadvantage so it's not really fair."
    Just this quote. This prove that you don't know alot about this game. Once again.
    A GM can join every room as spectator and stay invisible. Even if it's 1vs1 , even with password , even ranked or CW.
    So , GMs won't affect the game process.

    Don't speak if you can't read

    GM can't stay invisible.

    High rank in RANK MATCH has nothing to do with skill.

    Pretty sure Bunni has more skill than you, at least in GM
  • Namenkooo wrote: »
    Don't speak if you can't read

    GM can't stay invisible.

    High rank in RANK MATCH has nothing to do with skill.

    Pretty sure Bunni has more skill than you, at least in GM

    GMs can't stay invisible? Ayyyyyyyyy lmao. Wanna bet?

    "High rank in RANK MATCH has nothing to do with skill."
    And why you are not platinum yet , my dear? You can't rank up in this mode without skill / cheats.
    You need like 3 win and 1 lose to go up. 10 wins 1 lose in gold 5.
    Otherwise you will be going down.
  • p4shka wrote: »
    If you are not good player / cheater - you can't achieve high rank in ranked matches. Period. If you don't have much kills you won't get much points. In Gold 5 if you don't have atleast 10 kills/game you are not even getting any points.
    1 ranked S&D match takes 30 minutes? Just leave dude. Probably you never played this mode. Every game is 10 minutes +/- .

    "That being said they could leave the match after a few rounds and find another, but that puts their team at a disadvantage so it's not really fair."
    Just this quote. This prove that you don't know alot about this game. Once again.
    A GM can join every room as spectator and stay invisible. Even if it's 1vs1 , even with password , even ranked or CW.
    So , GMs won't affect the game process.

    30 minutes was an example, and no, they can't "join matches and stay invisible". Even if it was 5 rounds, it could last ~15 minutes. (5-4, assuming less than 2 minutes per round), even if it was 5-0 in a 5 round game it would still last about 7-8 minutes most likely, so 10 minutes is WAY off unless it's completely one sided and everyone dies within the first minute.
    When I last played ranked, there was staff sergeants and such on my team (Originally I was in Gold 5), and they were going stupid scores like 2-10. How did they get to gold 5? They MUST have 10 kills per game obviously or they would still be in silver right?
    You don't know how the ranking system works. You aren't a developer for Smilegate Just because other games have a similar system doesn't mean it works the same way.

    You say I don't know much about the game but you're pulling numbers and "facts" out of thin air. Give me evidence of a 10 minute ranked match that isn't 1-sided farming. Give me a quote from a GM saying they can "Join any game invisible and not affect it". Give me proof that you have to get 10 kills to stay neutral.

    I can wait. If you can prove a single one of those things I'll believe you.
  • p4shka wrote: »
    GMs can't stay invisible? Ayyyyyyyyy lmao. Wanna bet?

    "High rank in RANK MATCH has nothing to do with skill."
    And why you are not platinum yet , my dear? You can't rank up in this mode without skill / cheats.
    You need like 3 win and 1 lose to go up. 10 wins 1 lose in gold 5.
    Otherwise you will be going down.

    Why I'm not in platinum??? Come to CFQQ and see my rank against 200,000 players in my server. I don't waste my PRECIOUS time in RANK in CFNA.

    GM can't join a room and stay invisible, what do you have that you can bet??? Your account??? I don't want trash.
  • Namenkooo wrote: »
    Why I'm not in platinum??? Come to CFQQ and see my rank against 200,000 players in my server. I don't waste my PRECIOUS time in RANK in CFNA.

    GM can't join a room and stay invisible, what do you have that you can bet??? Your account??? I don't want trash.

    Then go to chinese forums lmao. And go to chinese CF. And go to live in China. We are talking about CFNA.
  • 30 minutes was an example, and no, they can't "join matches and stay invisible". Even if it was 5 rounds, it could last ~15 minutes. (5-4, assuming less than 2 minutes per round), even if it was 5-0 in a 5 round game it would still last about 7-8 minutes most likely, so 10 minutes is WAY off unless it's completely one sided and everyone dies within the first minute.
    When I last played ranked, there was staff sergeants and such on my team (Originally I was in Gold 5), and they were going stupid scores like 2-10. How did they get to gold 5? They MUST have 10 kills per game obviously or they would still be in silver right?
    You don't know how the ranking system works. You aren't a developer for Smilegate Just because other games have a similar system doesn't mean it works the same way.

    You say I don't know much about the game but you're pulling numbers and "facts" out of thin air. Give me evidence of a 10 minute ranked match that isn't 1-sided farming. Give me a quote from a GM saying they can "Join any game invisible and not affect it". Give me proof that you have to get 10 kills to stay neutral.

    I can wait. If you can prove a single one of those things I'll believe you.

    You was gold 5? Okay. But in CF even if you are Platinum you can have silvers in your team. I don't know how the ranked system works? Well , okay , i don't know.
    After 1K ranked matches in Russian CrossFire version,
    "Give me evidence of a 10 minute ranked match that isn't 1-sided farming."
    Just join a random ranked match and save the replay. And you will see the time.
    99% that the time will be less than 10 minutes.
    "Give me a quote from a GM saying they can "Join any game invisible and not affect it"
    Lmao. You need a quote when it's a fact? I know which permissions a GM has in game.
    Just wanna bet? 10zp bet. A GM can stay invisible in room.
  • p4shka wrote: »
    Then go to chinese forums lmao. And go to chinese CF. And go to live in China. We are talking about CFNA.

    What rank are you??? care to show me your IGN or you are just trashing talking??? GM cannot stay invisible in game, that is not a permission, that is TECHNICALLY inpossible. They can't just join a room and stay invisible unnoticed by other players, do your research first about how servers work you are just making a fool of yourself. You are so proud of your noob rank in this game, do you have nothing else to accomplish in life???


    Wanna bet your trash life on this???
  • p4shka wrote: »
    I know which permissions a GM has in game..

    No you don't. You are not a GM. You don't work for Z8games. You don't know anything more about their internal process than a random
    p4shka wrote: »
    Lmao. You need a quote when it's a fact?

    If it cannot be proven, a 'fact' is just an assumption.

    Also, CF Russia is not the same as CF NA. Most likely they would be the same, yes, but there is no way of knowing.
    I'm certain even the GMs don't know every difference between CF Russia and CF NA, because they don't work there, they won't know which changes are being made.

    Alright, after work I'll play 1 ranked game and check the time, but again, it was an example.
    Namenkooo wrote: »
    What rank are you??? care to show me your IGN or you are just trashing talking??? GM cannot stay invisible in game, that is not a permission, that is TECHNICALLY inpossible. They can't just join a room and stay invisible unnoticed by other players, do your research first about how servers work you are just making a fool of yourself. You are so proud of your noob rank in this game, do you have nothing else to accomplish in life???


    Wanna bet your trash life on this???

    Not much point arguing, he doesn't provide proof except "Facts" which he just makes up/guesses, and just trash-talks when someone makes a point.
    I'm going to play a game of ranked when I get home from work but besides that I'm done with this guy.
  • Namenkooo wrote: »
    What rank are you??? care to show me your IGN or you are just trashing talking??? GM cannot stay invisible in game, that is not a permission, that is TECHNICALLY inpossible. They can't just join a room and stay invisible unnoticed by other players, do your research first about how servers work you are just making a fool of yourself. You are so proud of your noob rank in this game, do you have nothing else to accomplish in life???

    "what do you have that you can bet??? Your account??? I don't want trash."
    Actually you are trashtalking.
    And ofcourse it's TECHNICALLY possible.
    You are talking about accounts when you don't have anything unique in your account lol.
    You just bought some cheapish VIPs which you got with welfare money. hhhhhhhhhhh
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