2016 WCGS Christmas Tournament Decision?
Please hear me out, regardless of whether you participated in the WCGS or not.
So a few friends of mine are a team that made it to the finals of the 2016 WCGS Christmas Tournament and won. However, they were suddenly disqualified upon winning the tournament.
The reason for the disqualification and having their victory being revoked was due to "suspicious activity" from this black box log released by the admins when they deemed my friends of cheating after winning the finals.
If you can't understand the Chinese characters and it looks suspicious, google KuGou dn player, the english written next to the Chinese characters (it's a music player).
This disqualification has permanently affected the team's reputation as e8 players/ teams will no longer play against my friend's team and they are now labeled as cheaters.
Here is their reasoning:
Apparently old and respected players in e8 excludes other competitive players? Even those who have competed and WON ocg, esl, esg, lan and CFPL? Isn't the goal here to get to China and play on that tier, yet you're disgusted by professionals from China who came to NA and play these community tournaments and then accuse them of cheating?
I understand the a7 stigma. You can't group everyone together. If you've read that WCG Christmas thread, it's filled with incredibly hateful and demeaning comments.
Bu the evidence is right here, it was sent by the admins and we don't know how it says it's a cheat because the WCG admins refused to point it out and explain what it was. https://postimg.org/image/pklpkx525/
Please understand that it's been incredibly hard as my friends have tried to find out why they've been disqualified and why the e8 community is ganging up on them due to the lack of proof, a random screenshot of a black box with supposed "suspicious activity" and the WCGS administrators refusing to reply to them or accept reasoning. They have asked for the evidence several times but WCGS admins have been incredibly vague and have only provided this screenshot as proof of cheating. https://postimg.org/image/pklpkx525/
They have basically ignored the pleads and have made their own decision/outcome of the game because "they can".
TL;DR: I am asking the community to please take a look into our perspective. My friends have gathered some of the best players they know; competitive players and national/regional champions Upon making it to semi finals, other teams were already accusing them of cheating because they're an unknown team. After winning the finals, https://postimg.org/image/pklpkx525/ this blackbox screenshot apparently has the "suspicious activity" on it ( if you're unsure, google the english next to the chinese characters, it's a music player). To be disqualified immediately after winning because of the e8 community hating/refusing to accept an a7 team and accusing my friends of cheating is incredibly overwhelming.
Thank you for hearing me out.
So a few friends of mine are a team that made it to the finals of the 2016 WCGS Christmas Tournament and won. However, they were suddenly disqualified upon winning the tournament.
The reason for the disqualification and having their victory being revoked was due to "suspicious activity" from this black box log released by the admins when they deemed my friends of cheating after winning the finals.
The thing is, we did receive the log, Just not sure how any of the processes is suspicious, please enlighten us
https://postimg.org/image/pklpkx525/
If anyone has any idea of which processes running in the back is suspicious, please point it out
If you can't understand the Chinese characters and it looks suspicious, google KuGou dn player, the english written next to the Chinese characters (it's a music player).
This disqualification has permanently affected the team's reputation as e8 players/ teams will no longer play against my friend's team and they are now labeled as cheaters.
Here is their reasoning:
Creative_S wrote: »Because all of their players are old and are respected comp players. Where as the Asians have history for cheating in a7. Also don't try and play the innocent card doppelgänger came into e8 yesterday talking trash in the lobby. Just worsens the reputation you morons have. Also since you're new here, as lastnamerich said anticheat logs have never been released when a player is caught due to confidentiality and privacy, learn it, hate it, deal with it.
Apparently old and respected players in e8 excludes other competitive players? Even those who have competed and WON ocg, esl, esg, lan and CFPL? Isn't the goal here to get to China and play on that tier, yet you're disgusted by professionals from China who came to NA and play these community tournaments and then accuse them of cheating?
So you are assuming we aren't old comp players too? All of us played competitively and just because we destroyed the top tier teams doesn't mean we hack. I played ocg https://www.twitch.tv/ocgleague/v/49654510, Dervitz- played esl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8LV8eWyVeU&t=55s and NANA is Ken http://prntscr.com/dpw4eh who played lan and won 3rd place, and Barret was on my esg team few years ago, Articuno imigrated from china who was an ex-tga player ign was lefthand http://prntscr.com/dpw9sz fourth one from the left.. Makaveli accused us of cheating based on a screenshot? What if blackbox auto flags some other thing that isn't even relevant to crossfire? Can you please look into this in depth?
I understand the a7 stigma. You can't group everyone together. If you've read that WCG Christmas thread, it's filled with incredibly hateful and demeaning comments.
Creative_S wrote: »Lmao no way an alpha7 clan can come in and **** on top tier teams. And you have the audacity to come into e8 and talk ****, you're the reason why it's always so toxic. Because the cheaters always love to talk **** because they're cheating, can easily win. Just gtfo e8, and go back to ur cancerous alpha 7 where u can hack with the rest of your buddies.
BonitaThorns wrote: »Evidence has not been directly put out on the forums by tournament advisors for the past few years. You asking for it, won't change it. They said you were cheating, the bbox was flagged,or whatever happened, and you got DQ'd. Don't cheat and get caught, then ask for evidence on how you get caught. That's idiotic. BBox has not flagged people for cheating when they weren't.
We were in mumble laughing about how blatant it was, we aren't salty as we knew the bbox would catch it, And if it didn't, then we deserve the loss because we should've won regardless.
Bu the evidence is right here, it was sent by the admins and we don't know how it says it's a cheat because the WCG admins refused to point it out and explain what it was. https://postimg.org/image/pklpkx525/
eX_Makaveli wrote: »I will submit the evidence to other tournament hosts to make sure Doppelganger is never able to compete.
Please understand that it's been incredibly hard as my friends have tried to find out why they've been disqualified and why the e8 community is ganging up on them due to the lack of proof, a random screenshot of a black box with supposed "suspicious activity" and the WCGS administrators refusing to reply to them or accept reasoning. They have asked for the evidence several times but WCGS admins have been incredibly vague and have only provided this screenshot as proof of cheating. https://postimg.org/image/pklpkx525/
They have basically ignored the pleads and have made their own decision/outcome of the game because "they can".
TL;DR: I am asking the community to please take a look into our perspective. My friends have gathered some of the best players they know; competitive players and national/regional champions Upon making it to semi finals, other teams were already accusing them of cheating because they're an unknown team. After winning the finals, https://postimg.org/image/pklpkx525/ this blackbox screenshot apparently has the "suspicious activity" on it ( if you're unsure, google the english next to the chinese characters, it's a music player). To be disqualified immediately after winning because of the e8 community hating/refusing to accept an a7 team and accusing my friends of cheating is incredibly overwhelming.
Thank you for hearing me out.
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If the client says you're cheating,
you're cheating.
It isn't some sort of "new player favoritism", it's just the way things go. Every few months some new "a7" team comes out of the woodwork; RageCN, FinalDown + Remy, pick your poison. Without fail, they are instantly a top tier team. Without fail, they are caught cheating on client.
Our community is incredibly accepting of cheaters. Probably 50% of the players on the top 4 teams in North America have at some point cheated.
If you want to compete, do it on client where you don't get caught. You'll gain respect back.
As for the admins...yeah, they CAN do whatever they want. If they wanted to, they could look at replays and ban you for being too fishy. Everyone would laugh at their event, thenceforth, but yeah. As it was, you guys were flagged on BlackBox. Case closed.
Edit: I mean, how hard could it be to bypass? FOHH did it for weeks without getting caught. Step your guys' game up! -
Ellustrial wrote: »If the client says you're cheating,
you're cheating.
It isn't some sort of "new player favoritism", it's just the way things go. Every few months some new "a7" team comes out of the woodwork; RageCN, FinalDown + Remy, pick your poison. Without fail, they are instantly a top tier team. Without fail, they are caught cheating on client.
Our community is incredibly accepting of cheaters. Probably 50% of the players on the top 4 teams in North America have at some point cheated.
If you want to compete, do it on client where you don't get caught. You'll gain respect back.
As for the admins...yeah, they CAN do whatever they want. If they wanted to, they could look at replays and ban you for being too fishy. Everyone would laugh at their event, thenceforth, but yeah. As it was, you guys were flagged on BlackBox. Case closed.
Edit: I mean, how hard could it be to bypass? FOHH did it for weeks without getting caught. Step your guys' game up!
I see but I don't understand how they can give us this https://postimg.org/image/pklpkx525/
Then have the whole e8 community gang up on the team and then DQ without pointing out what it was. Client doesn't say there's cheating. Client just has a box with some chinese characters on it. -
Even those who have competed and WON ocg, esl, esg, lan and CFPL? Isn't the goal here to get to China and play on that tier, yet you're disgusted by professionals from China who came to NA and play these community tournaments and then accuse them of cheating?
I sincerely doubt that anybody on the team in question has won CFPLI understand the a7 stigma. You can't group everyone together. If you've read that WCG Christmas thread, it's filled with incredibly hateful and demeaning comments.
There's not an instant stigma against Asians. supamen is Asian and he's one of the most liked players in CFNAPlease understand that it's been incredibly hard as my friends have tried to find out why they've been disqualified and why the e8 community is ganging up on them due to the lack of proof, a random screenshot of a black box with supposed "suspicious activity" and the WCGS administrators refusing to reply to them or accept reasoning. They have asked for the evidence several times but WCGS admins have been incredibly vague and have only provided this screenshot as proof of cheating. https://postimg.org/image/pklpkx525/
They'll never be completely viewed as legitimate players, so if they didn't cheat then my condolences. But either way, they should try to stream and play client as much as possible.Ellustrial wrote: »If the client says you're cheating,
you're cheating.
No. Anticheats aren't perfect -
Ellustrial wrote: »If the client says you're cheating,
you're cheating.
It isn't some sort of "new player favoritism", it's just the way things go. Every few months some new "a7" team comes out of the woodwork; RageCN, FinalDown + Remy, pick your poison. Without fail, they are instantly a top tier team. Without fail, they are caught cheating on client.
Our community is incredibly accepting of cheaters. Probably 50% of the players on the top 4 teams in North America have at some point cheated.
If you want to compete, do it on client where you don't get caught. You'll gain respect back.
As for the admins...yeah, they CAN do whatever they want. If they wanted to, they could look at replays and ban you for being too fishy. Everyone would laugh at their event, thenceforth, but yeah. As it was, you guys were flagged on BlackBox. Case closed.
Edit: I mean, how hard could it be to bypass? FOHH did it for weeks without getting caught. Step your guys' game up!
Classic X0tek dqing teams he cant beat. Black box can literally flag anything bro. Dude use ur common sense how dafck did we make it to the finals without any problem but as soon as we play ur team something was flagged? Obviously something went wrong. we literally have the same fcking play style as before. -
Can't disagree hahaaIt's ok makavelli thinks everyone cheat, he plays like as if he's literally afk and tries to bust almost everyone better than him, **** Indian needs to eat more goat curry and actually run his cup smoothly without any corruption -
Ellustrial wrote: »If the client says you're cheating,
you're cheating.
It isn't some sort of "new player favoritism", it's just the way things go. Every few months some new "a7" team comes out of the woodwork; RageCN, FinalDown + Remy, pick your poison. Without fail, they are instantly a top tier team. Without fail, they are caught cheating on client.
Our community is incredibly accepting of cheaters. Probably 50% of the players on the top 4 teams in North America have at some point cheated.
If you want to compete, do it on client where you don't get caught. You'll gain respect back.
As for the admins...yeah, they CAN do whatever they want. If they wanted to, they could look at replays and ban you for being too fishy. Everyone would laugh at their event, thenceforth, but yeah. As it was, you guys were flagged on BlackBox. Case closed.
Edit: I mean, how hard could it be to bypass? FOHH did it for weeks without getting caught. Step your guys' game up!
WOAH CHOKTEK!! U clearly fcking said "michaelxv205 cheats" numerous times and always bullied him on scrims, accusing him of cheating yet u left anxia to get carried by his cheating ass, no wonder no one likes u, if Doppler is to be found innocent, y'all shouldn't be allowed to play because of how blatant ur teammate is, if that's your logic -
Everyone thinking all Chinese CFPlayer are considered cheating
have you ever thought about how hard we spend time to practice become a better player?
we want to prove that we are not the worstest so we never give up
how can you tell if a person who is ACE are consider cheating? So you think yourself has better skills than anyone else? do you really can tell who is cheating when he is ACE ? So that means whenever if you are ACE then you must be cheating. if someone win you then they must be cheating. what if they are loser? so they must bad and you are the best. that doesnt make sense. so i very want this to be fair and not just a person rumor causes problem . if you still cant accept this then think about AG and VG who plays in china. can they cheat on CFS, CFPL, WCG and WCA ? some people will knows what is true and what is false . i am apology for my low level english, i hope you can understand it -
Ellustrial wrote: »If the client says you're cheating,
you're cheating.
It isn't some sort of "new player favoritism", it's just the way things go. Every few months some new "a7" team comes out of the woodwork; RageCN, FinalDown + Remy, pick your poison. Without fail, they are instantly a top tier team. Without fail, they are caught cheating on client.
Our community is incredibly accepting of cheaters. Probably 50% of the players on the top 4 teams in North America have at some point cheated.
If you want to compete, do it on client where you don't get caught. You'll gain respect back.
As for the admins...yeah, they CAN do whatever they want. If they wanted to, they could look at replays and ban you for being too fishy. Everyone would laugh at their event, thenceforth, but yeah. As it was, you guys were flagged on BlackBox. Case closed.
Edit: I mean, how hard could it be to bypass? FOHH did it for weeks without getting caught. Step your guys' game up!
your fcking stupid blackbox never flagged anything from my computer i got banned for a dumb video that i proved wrong numerous times, but the admins didn't wanna bother look at anything i sent them. by the way the only reason u made it to china cuz of the admins so be glad shtty cuz ur team is straight trash and you have never been more than a trash player.
Also the admins never showed us anything that proved Final.down was cheating other than saying he got banned. -
reason that u lose it is that makaveli and micheal are big friends after 1 game when they played with out 3 players from roster and that was ok late 30min and that was ok to ik that they will win but this is patetic in finals u dq because they hack tell me how that dident happend in 1 game? id they hack why u dident dq them in 1st game ? not in finals
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your fcking stupid blackbox never flagged anything from my computer i got banned for a dumb video that i proved wrong numerous times, but the admins didn't wanna bother look at anything i sent them. by the way the only reason u made it to china cuz of the admins so be glad shtty cuz ur team is straight trash and you have never been more than a trash player.
Also the admins never showed us anything that proved Final.down was cheating other than saying he got banned.
Wow. Sorry to hear, this is basically what happened to my friends![:\](https://forum.z8games.com/resources/emoji/confused.png ":\")
I understand your frustration, all that time and effort put in to be randomly snubbed and ignored.
Does anyone understand what's wrong with this blackbox? https://postimg.org/image/pklpkx525/
Can someone take a look at it? https://postimg.org/image/pklpkx525/ engineers/developers/computer science majors?
Right now my friends are still being accused of cheating but the admins have ignored us completely.PZEDDDDDDDDD wrote: » -
Hey Treni
Thanks for understanding, really appreciate that you can look out it from our standpoint. I had also pointed out that they were friends and I knew they are because they've done this to several players before.eX_Makaveli wrote: »Refrain from making any accusations on this thread as it is against the ToS. Any evidence was directly given to the captain of the team.
Saying I was bias is hilarious as my own team Splice was competing look at where they ended. I'd choose Michael's team to win over my own for what? Bias is the last thing I am.
It's understandable that they're friends and want to help/support each other if either of their team loses but it's not right to accuse other people that they cheat and tell them that they aren't allowed in e8 again... -
SeagullSoulT wrote: »Everyone thinking all Chinese CFPlayer are considered cheating
have you ever thought about how hard we spend time to practice become a better player?
we want to prove that we are not the worstest so we never give up
how can you tell if a person who is ACE are consider cheating? So you think yourself has better skills than anyone else? do you really can tell who is cheating when he is ACE ? So that means whenever if you are ACE then you must be cheating. if someone win you then they must be cheating. what if they are loser? so they must bad and you are the best. that doesnt make sense. so i very want this to be fair and not just a person rumor causes problem . if you still cant accept this then think about AG and VG who plays in china. can they cheat on CFS, CFPL, WCG and WCA ? some people will knows what is true and what is false . i am apology for my low level english, i hope you can understand it
Your English is very good and very well written (:
The Chinese players on CF are very tight knit and take cheating as as seriously as the competitive community if not more. As you know because the community is still small, all the Chinese players know each other. The community does not accept players who achieve with out merit.
Seagull is right about the practicing. Chinese players who enter any sort of tournaments will always try to avoid entering because it'll pose a risk of them getting caught and being rejected by the Chinese community as well. Those who do enter have practiced nearly all day and week so they don't make a fool out of themselves.SeagullSoulT wrote: »If you still cant accept this then think about AG and VG who plays in china. can they cheat on CFS, CFPL, WCG and WCA ? some people will knows what is true and what is false.
I advise CFNA to send their best to China. It will definitely attract more players and publicity. -
LastNameRich wrote: »I sincerely doubt that anybody on the team in question has won CFPL
There's not an instant stigma against Asians. supamen is Asian and he's one of the most liked players in CFNA
They'll never be completely viewed as legitimate players, so if they didn't cheat then my condolences. But either way, they should try to stream and play client as much as possible.
No. Anticheats aren't perfect
Next time, probably everyone needs to set up a video recording of the monitor so that no one can complaint. I think Doppler have no problem rematching since everyone on the team did farely equal, didn't win because there was one player getting like 20kills -
Next time, probably everyone needs to set up a video recording of the monitor so that no one can complaint. I think Doppler have no problem rematching since everyone on the team did farely equal, didn't win because there was one player getting like 20kills
X0tek is @ss bro man thinks hes super big just cause he went to WCA xd. Bro I can fcking shyt on this kid on stream with 10 other anticheats on except for blackbox cause we all know its just gonna flag us one more time for no fcking reason. -
Next time, probably everyone needs to set up a video recording of the monitor so that no one can complaint. I think Doppler have no problem rematching since everyone on the team did farely equal, didn't win because there was one player getting like 20kills
Hey Rich, have you ever actually qualified for a professional national team? Have you ever been invited to join a internationally recognized team? Doppelganger has consecutive egl and lan winners and an ex-TGA member who immigrated to NA. Probably the top 5% in CFNA are being called cheats by the e8 community because they look down on a7 players as a whole.
supamen is not an a7 player and Carbon is an English speaking clan. You're reinforcing the racism and xenophobia by the way.
EDIT: you can't cheat your way to the national/international level. -
Please hear me out, regardless of whether you participated in the WCGS or not.
So a few friends of mine are a team that made it to the finals of the 2016 WCGS Christmas Tournament and won. However, they were suddenly disqualified upon winning the tournament.
The reason for the disqualification and having their victory being revoked was due to "suspicious activity" from this black box log released by the admins when they deemed my friends of cheating after winning the finals.
If you can't understand the Chinese characters and it looks suspicious, google KuGou dn player, the english written next to the Chinese characters (it's a music player).
This disqualification has permanently affected the team's reputation as e8 players/ teams will no longer play against my friend's team and they are now labeled as cheaters.
Here is their reasoning:
Apparently old and respected players in e8 excludes other competitive players? Even those who have competed and WON ocg, esl, esg, lan and CFPL? Isn't the goal here to get to China and play on that tier, yet you're disgusted by professionals from China who came to NA and play these community tournaments and then accuse them of cheating?
I understand the a7 stigma. You can't group everyone together. If you've read that WCG Christmas thread, it's filled with incredibly hateful and demeaning comments.
Bu the evidence is right here, it was sent by the admins and we don't know how it says it's a cheat because the WCG admins refused to point it out and explain what it was. https://postimg.org/image/pklpkx525/
Please understand that it's been incredibly hard as my friends have tried to find out why they've been disqualified and why the e8 community is ganging up on them due to the lack of proof, a random screenshot of a black box with supposed "suspicious activity" and the WCGS administrators refusing to reply to them or accept reasoning. They have asked for the evidence several times but WCGS admins have been incredibly vague and have only provided this screenshot as proof of cheating. https://postimg.org/image/pklpkx525/
They have basically ignored the pleads and have made their own decision/outcome of the game because "they can".
TL;DR: I am asking the community to please take a look into our perspective. My friends have gathered some of the best players they know; competitive players and national/regional champions Upon making it to semi finals, other teams were already accusing them of cheating because they're an unknown team. After winning the finals, https://postimg.org/image/pklpkx525/ this blackbox screenshot apparently has the "suspicious activity" on it ( if you're unsure, google the english next to the chinese characters, it's a music player). To be disqualified immediately after winning because of the e8 community hating/refusing to accept an a7 team and accusing my friends of cheating is incredibly overwhelming.
Thank you for hearing me out.
EDIT: The black box screenshot that apparently "looked suspicious" was of only ONE player who did not hard carry the team. He's Canadian and English is his first language. How are you going to talk sht about Chinese community and accuse their competitive players of cheating if that one guy is Canadian?? -
https://postimg.org/image/pklpkx525/
This image you guys keep linking and asking for explanations looks like it was "cut" right above a highlighted log entry.
Not hating, just saying.
https://postimg.org/image/ob0sw1mcv/ -
Hey Rich, have you ever actually qualified for a professional national team? Have you ever been invited to join a internationally recognized team? Doppelganger has consecutive egl and lan winners and an ex-TGA member who immigrated to NA.
Again, it's extremely unlikely that any of you have played on a "internationally recognized team", and similarly it is extremely unlikely that any of you have won CFPL in CFCN. And you bragging about winning EGL, a forum tournament where good players don't play in, further backs up the doubt.supamen is not an a7 player and Carbon is an English speaking clan. You're reinforcing the racism and xenophobia by the way.
supamen started out playing with ]1[-Family, which was an A7 clan
You might want to stop claiming everything is racist and xenophobic, it's just making you look patheticEDIT: The black box screenshot that apparently "looked suspicious" was of only ONE player who did not hard carry the team. He's Canadian and English is his first language. How are you going to talk sht about Chinese community and accuse their competitive players of cheating if that one guy is Canadian??
People claim that the A7 community cheats not because of your distorted perception of reality, but because the last time an A7 team performed good on client was Trio 6+ years ago. Every other A7 team/player that has tried playing E8 either performed atrociously on client, or got banned for cheating. -
To go a step further, I believe makaveli sent you a screenshot with the suspicious entry highlighted.You however, for whatever reason, decided to "cut" the image and upload it on the forums claiming to be the original one.Just my guess.
You're correct they're making assumptions that I was pointing out a process and cropped the original picture. I told them specifically in a PM that the screenshot is showing them that they got flagged and it says to contact the developer team as I did which they have access to more advanced tools. They can't release any confidential information to me for purposes of security and privacy. A moderator needs to remove this thread it isn't up for discussion, we have the evidence and have no doubt in our decision. Thank you for understanding. -
eX_Makaveli wrote: »You're correct they're making assumptions that I was pointing out a process and cropped the original picture. I told them specifically in a PM that the screenshot is showing them that they got flagged and it says to contact the developer team as I did which they have access to more advanced tools. They can't release any confidential information to me for purposes of security and privacy. A moderator needs to remove this thread it isn't up for discussion, we have the evidence and have no doubt in our decision. Thank you for understanding.
u said u contacted the developer team but how do we know u really did or didn't? Listen we didn't cheat and we are not afraid to go in depth and let the developer check our files that we uploaded on Black box. As i said earlier black box can literally flag anything and it could even be processes that have nothing to do with crossfire. I'm not saying u didn't contact the developers, but i'm just saying how do we know u did contact them. -
https://postimg.org/image/pklpkx525/
This image you guys keep linking and asking for explanations looks like it was "cut" right above a highlighted log entry.
Not hating, just saying.
https://postimg.org/image/ob0sw1mcv/
thats that whole log i was shown and it said that it was flagged -
u said u contacted the developer team but how do we know u really did or didn't? Listen we didn't cheat and we are not afraid to go in depth and let the developer check our files that we uploaded on Black box. As i said earlier black box can literally flag anything and it could even be processes that have nothing to do with crossfire. I'm not saying u didn't contact the developers, but i'm just saying how do we know u did contact them.
Are you sure you contacted a developer? If a developer was contacted, there would be an explanation and screen shots from the developer.
All they can say is "we contacted and the developer said there was a cheat program"
Is it that hard to explain ? You've been avoiding the situation like a plague which obviously makes it seem like you're trying to cover up something.
The black box screenshot is here, now point out the cheat. Point it out or you guys are just making things up to cover your @ss. -
Are you sure you contacted a developer? If a developer was contacted, there would be an explanation and screen shots from the developer.
All they can say is "we contacted and the developer said there was a cheat program"
Is it that hard to explain ? You've been avoiding the situation like a plague which obviously makes it seem like you're trying to cover up something.
The black box screenshot is here, now point out the cheat. Point it out or you guys are just making things up to cover your @ss.
Is it this hard for you to comprehend? The logs and anything related to the cheat detection mechanism and the cheat program will not be released due to it being prohibitied and for the purposes of privacy and having common sense. Last a7 clan that came to competitive was fygaming, after a few weeks a player of them was caught using macros reducing recoil and a registry edit to stop acceleration. So it's not a big surprise when another a7 team gets caught on client and this same player from fy is in their clan. -
davethenew wrote: »Is it this hard for you to comprehend? The logs and anything related to the cheat detection mechanism and the cheat program will not be released due to it being prohibitied and for the purposes of privacy and having common sense. Last a7 clan that came to competitive was fygaming, after a few weeks a player of them was caught using macros reducing recoil and a registry edit to stop acceleration. So it's not a big surprise when another a7 team gets caught on client and this same player from fy is in their clan.
Yeah that player is 99v and after that, Michael who is the admin of EGL apologized to him because he wasn't using anything illegal. so get ur facts right before u comment on a thread please -
Yeah that player is 99v and after that, Michael who is the admin of EGL apologized to him because he wasn't using anything illegal. so get ur facts right before u comment on a thread please
Sorry it's not my fault you got caught cheating, cya loser. -
Classic X0tek dqing teams he cant beat. Black box can literally flag anything bro. Dude use ur common sense how dafck did we make it to the finals without any problem but as soon as we play ur team something was flagged? Obviously something went wrong. we literally have the same fcking play style as before.
Comedy gold, but let me say something right quick.
1. You were flagged last week, too, and in your match vs KBS. I'm not sure why you were allowed to continue playing, but to pretend that you suddenly had an issue against our team is negligent.
2. I didn't DQ you guys; you got caught on client. Strawman?
3. Black box can NOT literally flag anything; there is 0 precedent for a legitimate top-level player being falsely flagged by BlackBox in CrossFire. Zero, none.
4. The whole "you guys are just showing how the community is xenophobic and judgmental" is a little ridiculous. Fly Society was a well-respected "asian" team. St.Malice is Asian, 3/5 players on Teamw0w are Asian, and the only person caught cheating on their team is white. Nova was an "a7" player; everyone liked and respected him, until he busted himself on-stream cheating :rolleyes: Not going to diminish the fact that most people do automatically assume Asians cheat in this game, but don't pretend like the competitive scene excludes Asian people from competing
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