ZM Ribbon Farming
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[FrozenPizza wrote: »
Oh I see... Well I'm quite sure it's allowed. Time is running, which means you can more or less do anything within that time. Even if it means you're killing the weak zombies only. After all, that's what they're here for. To get killed. -
[FrozenPizza wrote: »then z8 fail again cuz it isn't fair at all .......
How is it not fair? the game especially round 30 gives you 30mins to kill the boss and it's part of the mode the longer you are in that room round 30 the more Zombies will keep coming as their aim is to kill the players and protect the boss and your aim is defeat the boss however long it takes.
All 4 players are kept busy fending off the zombies and players can work together i.e one distracts the boss which take a lot of hard working whilst friends kills Zombies perfectly legal and I have no issue with it. This is not stopping you from doing it and does not effect the community nor does it effect Z8games.
As this takes time for the players and Objective is still there "Kill the Boss" "30mins to do so"
***In the past people took long completing Crater, now we are used to it, which can be completed much quicker, but it wasn't a problem in the past, how long it takes you to defeat the boss untill the ribbon is at stake?***
***Hard mode Crater would take almost half of the 30mins time to kill boss, will that count in your view as farming.***
***Your issue is that you didn't have Revive left and your time was wasted. In this case you should do the event with 4 friends who may help you with revive or work together to either defeat the Boss fast or help each other kill Zombies and avoid Boss. "Team Play Mode"*** -
+1CamelSoldier wrote: »How is it not fair? the game especially round 30 gives you 30mins to kill the boss and it's part of the mode the longer you are in that room round 30 the more Zombies will keep coming as their aim is to kill the players and protect the boss and your aim is defeat the boss however long it takes.
All 4 players are kept busy fending off the zombies and players can work together i.e one distracts the boss which take a lot of hard working whilst friends kills Zombies perfectly legal and I have no issue with it. This is not stopping you from doing it and does not effect the community nor does it effect Z8games.
As this takes time for the players and Objective is still there "Kill the Boss" "30mins to do so"
***In the past people took long completing Crater, now we are used to it, which can be completed much quicker, but it wasn't a problem in the past, how long it takes you to defeat the boss untill the ribbon is at stake?***
***Hard mode Crater would take almost half of the 30mins time to kill boss, will that count in your view as farming.***
***Your issue is that you didn't have Revive left and your time was wasted. In this case you should do the event with 4 friends who may help you with revive or work together to either defeat the Boss fast or help each other kill Zombies and avoid Boss. "Team Play Mode"***
It's just a zombie mode. Cmon... -
I can't understand your problem exactly....
Isn't event abuse.
Isn't game abuse.
Isn't use of a bug or exploit.
Let's say that 4 trainees join to play the game and reach round 30, and they keep shooting those zombies. According to your logic then they abuse the game...and ye this isn't the """farm""" that you know.
Oh also if you missed it outRoadToMajor wrote: »I've been playing ZM for this ribbon and found out this
while i was playing unearth map I reached the last wave (wave 30) , as you know , there is unlimited respawn of zombies right? , so Im wondering if we kill those zombies would it also count for the ribbon , I mean like there is 30 min to finish the last wave , and there is always re-spawnning zombies , so players can leave the BOSS for the last 5 mins , and 25 mins killing zombies , so we can reach 5k zombie kills in one game?
NOTE: hmm if this worked out , It's not farming its just like playing a normal game , so I hope z8 wont ban those who did this or forbid them from the ribbon.
Thanks in advance![GM]Grumpy wrote: »For the Ribbon Rummage event, if the tracker is tracking it, then it will count.
In this thread here.
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?322144-10-000-ZM-kills-ribbon! -
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It would be annoying playing a game all the way to round 30 to try and solo it lol. You don't get points for the other zombies. It would be hard to isolate round 30 on your tracker, like intrude some late games and only kill in round 30 then check the tracker. Image people spent all that time doing nothing ? xD . It probably counts as I've heard death rally even counts.
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RiceTurtle wrote: »Grumpy has already comments on this:
Farming regularly also counts. Fail grumpy is fail.PrinceHybird wrote: »this is not count as "farming" its a normal game farm the last round in crater.
Good job you contradicted yourself already.
Are cows supposed to be good players? Lol.Even if it means you're killing the weak zombies only. After all, that's what they're here for. To get killed.ExtazyLazy wrote: »+1
It's just a zombie mode. Cmon...
Oh, so that makes it okay? Zero tolerance policy please.I'd also like to mention that even though they're waiting to kill the boss on purpose, after all, they're still active and playing, you could still die etc. So I wouldn't consider it farming at all.
You can die in regular farm. Also my cows run towards me to die, everyone is always active.BloodClarts wrote: »Did you send a support ticket?
I will do! -
In a way it is farming but i'd have to say this is the lowest level of it. To do this you have to have all players in the room on board, moving, and shooting, staying alive, and not shooting the boss at that. Where as in a 'regular' farm room you'd have one side sit still while the other side kills them...or maybe you'll have gotten even lazier and have your 'cows' move towards you so you don't have to run so far to kill them...although the cows moving is probably more just so they don't idle out i'm sure. To say the 'cows' are active when they at best move a little is lolworthy. And the only reason one would likely die in a 'regular' farm room is to try to make their score appear more legit. or MAYBE if they are taking turns farming each side with non-cow accounts.
This is really just another example of HS Event farmers still being butthurt trying to find any reason to justify themselves.
I mean sure if they took up a zero-tolerance policy this probably shouldn't be allowed either....however, if they took up a zero-tolerance policy...would the people QQing about it even be here to QQ? After-all the zero tolerance would mean anyone found farming, as defined by GMs, would be banned. And again while it is TECHNICALLY a form of farming, compared to all other farming this is the lowest tier. You'd have more sympathy and credibility to your QQs if you were reporting people farming up to Marshal rank as even that is worse than this in terms of it's effect on the game and how they generally go about to achieve it with cows and what not.
I think it'd be wise at this point for the GMs, and i'm just going to say it'd probably fall on Grumpy's duty as it seems it's more of his work area, to start up a public discussion as what counts as farming and what doesn't and to what extent it should be punished. That way the GMs can form better policy that everyone is more clear on when it comes to farming. -
In a way it is farming but i'd have to say this is the lowest level of it. To do this you have to have all players in the room on board, moving, and shooting, staying alive, and not shooting the boss at that. Where as in a 'regular' farm room you'd have one side sit still while the other side kills them...or maybe you'll have gotten even lazier and have your 'cows' move towards you so you don't have to run so far to kill them...although the cows moving is probably more just so they don't idle out i'm sure. To say the 'cows' are active when they at best move a little is lolworthy.
Looks like you've been sleeping since 2011 if you think I farmed by killing my cows myself. I'll show you what active looks like if you can get me my EP. Since according to people here, if they move like zombies its okay. @ work CBA to correct text -
I hope it's fine, I personally don't see what's wrong with it.
Afterall the zombies still try to kill you and you still have to shoot them just normally. It's not really farming.
i agree many zombie mode so hard sometimes i forget to left mouse and i die
defintely not farmin frozenpizza just a mad caus he try to farm event hhhh -
I don't believe this is farming basically because you have two options in the final round of Zombie Mode:
A) To shoot the Boss.
Or
To shoot the other zombies.
It's part of the mode to survive and it's always been like this ever since day one. If you are referring this (surviving) to farming then I guess every other game might aswell class it as farming?
Let's just assume that killing zombies in the final round is classed as "Farming". Now, let's compare the differences.
Zombie Mode Farming
Normal Farming- Your killing Zombies.
- Your killing Players.
- Kills don't count towards your profile.
- Kills do count towards your profile.
- Small amount of Exp.
- Large amount of Exp.
- Doesn't affect KDR.
- Affects KDR a lot.
- Small effect on Ranking.
- Large affect on Ranking.
As you can see, "Zombie Mode Farming" does not have a large impact to the game and that's if you class killing zombies at the final round as "Farming". Whereas, normal farming does have several impacts to the game such as Ranking, KDR, Exp and Kills which all does affect other players in-game. -
Let's just assume that killing zombies in the final round is classed as "Farming". Now, let's compare the differences.
Zombie Mode Farming
Normal Farming- Your killing Zombies.
- Your killing Players.
- Kills don't count towards your profile.
- Kills do count towards your profile.
- Small amount of Exp.
- Large amount of Exp.
- Doesn't affect KDR.
- Affects KDR a lot.
- Small effect on Ranking.
- Large affect on Ranking.
As you can see, "Zombie Mode Farming" does not have a large impact to the game and that's if you class killing zombies at the final round as "Farming". Whereas, normal farming does have several impacts to the game such as Ranking, KDR, Exp and Kills which all does affect other players in-game.
Does this still not fall under the imaginary line of 'abuse' created by Grumpy? I mean this is a ribbon we are talking about!!! -
Does this still not fall under the imaginary line of 'abuse' created by Grumpy? I mean this is a ribbon we are talking about!!!
There isn't any abuse since I already stated:I don't believe this is farming basically because you have two options in the final round of Zombie Mode:
A) To shoot the Boss.
Or To shoot the other zombies.
It's part of the mode to survive and it's always been like this ever since day one. If you are referring this (surviving) to farming then I guess every other game might aswell class it as farming?
It's completely up to the player to either shoot the boss or to shoot the zombies. There is no rule which forces a player to shoot the boss. -
There isn't any abuse since I already stated:
It's completely up to the player to either shoot the boss or to shoot the zombies. There is no rule which forces a player to shoot the boss.
I forgot that ribbons lead to a permanent item. People who are after the same goal will do whatever benefits them. No one will shoot the boss knowing the advantages. That is abuse!
This is farming, just a different breed. Stop denying it. -
For one more time.
There is not point to talk about farming here since this isn't farming, ye ok we use the phrase "farm zombies" but isn't what you think.
Isn't abuse.
Isn't exploit.
Isn't bug.
Isn't anything illegal.
Those zombies are in game for a reason.
Is 100% legal and all can do it.
:D
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ChikeAlbatal wrote: »all is jealous
There is no need for jealousy as any one can do it. It is more likely they didn't have the capacity to survive.
However any one can do it but they will need the following more or less to survive:
*Team Work - If team is all over the place, no plan disaster #GameOver!
*Revive - May need some handy Revive Tokens or will see your self posting here complaints #Dead!!!! #TimeWasted
*Hypo Meds - This is important rather than let your life drain down to 0 and then have to use Revive #HypoMeds
*Conserve your Lives from round 1 to 30 unless you have Revives #DontBeHeroEarlyRounds!
*17 and 19 Stick Together or Disaster will strike! #TeamWork
*Early Round Heroes always will die first! #Greed!
*MG or something with a lot #Ammo
*****If you dont have the above then you are more likely to die and wasted your time and more likely to come here complain #Farmers, when in reality you didn't have the capacity to survive.*******
Simple Rule-
*If you don't have the Above or the will to continue surviving #Surviving not Farm then you can make Private room with friends whose objective is to kill the Boss as fast as they can. Or you can kill the boss on your own, this will take time, but at least this option if you decide to be hero and kill the boss will make your team #Mad xD either way it's fine.
****As people said it does not effect the community, Z8games or KDR or take advantages of Bug or Exploits as the mode has built in Timer 30 Mins to complete the Objective kill the Boss and in that time zombies will continue to attack and the Boss will also attack you until you are dead or time ended.****
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ye ok we use the phrase "farming cows" but isn't what you think.
Isn't abuse.
Isn't exploit.
Isn't bug.
Isn't anything illegal.
Those cows are in game for a reason.
Is 100% legal and all can do it.:D
Wow this looks and sounds so familiar. Thank you FrozenPizza for shining some light on this subject! You are our hero.
Watch them removing the kills in the last 2 days 
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