WCGS Christmas Tournament

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  • Refrain from making any accusations on this thread as it is against the ToS. Any evidence was directly given to the captain of the team.

    Saying I was bias is hilarious as my own team Splice was competing look at where they ended. I'd choose Michael's team to win over my own for what? Bias is the last thing I am. I cancelled the WCGS tournament because I'm not wasting my time for a community that doesn't appreciate anything but is fast to make assumptions. I understand why British cancelled his tournament and he will never host anything. The players brought that upon themselves. However I am still here finishing up this tournament as it is only fair to do so. This is my last post and I will not reply.[/QUF

    Makaveli, we are glad that someone like you was able to come out and host a tournament for the community. But from what you send me doesn't explain anything of us cheating because you're not telling us what was fragged.
  • KaizCz wrote: »
    Refrain from making any accusations on this thread as it is against the ToS. Any evidence was directly given to the captain of the team.

    Saying I was bias is hilarious as my own team Splice was competing look at where they ended. I'd choose Michael's team to win over my own for what? Bias is the last thing I am. I cancelled the WCGS tournament because I'm not wasting my time for a community that doesn't appreciate anything but is fast to make assumptions. I understand why British cancelled his tournament and he will never host anything. The players brought that upon themselves. However I am still here finishing up this tournament as it is only fair to do so. This is my last post and I will not reply.[/QUF

    Makaveli, we are glad that someone like you was able to come out and host a tournament for the community. But from what you send me doesn't explain anything of us cheating because you're not telling us what was fragged.

    They don't have too tell you
  • There weren't any top tier teams in this tournament







    I have no clue whether or not you cheated, and realistically none of us will, but you're a moron

    And I didn't even play?

    Heard there were tons of racism and xenophobic comments on this thread and I just had to take a look to confirm how terrible the competitive community is to its asian players.
  • smashtime wrote: »
    KaizCz wrote: »

    They don't have too tell you

    If you guys don't tell us anything then how can Makaveli accuse us of cheating? base on some screenshot of blackbox?
  • smashtime wrote: »
    KaizCz wrote: »

    They don't have too tell you

    So it's basically
    "We say we have proof of cheating but we can't tell you what it is and we're not willing to show you but because we host/run the tournament, our word is final"

    Please Makaveli, it's a great tournament. With a bit of transparency, everything will be solved. Just let the community know what actually happened and what was flagged/found. I'm sure all teams are able eager to see the physical hard evidence.
  • KaizCz wrote: »

    If you guys don't tell us anything then how can Makaveli accuse us of cheating? base on some screenshot of blackbox?

    He can accuse you of cheating because he is an admin of the tournament and deals with the anticheat logs. Whether or not you are aware of what's in the logs does not affect his ability to determine the legitimacy of the match
    Zhenend wrote: »
    And I didn't even play?

    Heard there were tons of racism and xenophobic comments on this thread and I just had to take a look to confirm how terrible the competitive community is to its asian players.

    The competitive community isn't terrible towards asians, it's terrible towards morons. Hence why you're getting hated
  • He can accuse you of cheating because he is an admin of the tournament and deals with the anticheat logs. Whether or not you are aware of what's in the logs does not affect his ability to determine the legitimacy of the match



    The competitive community isn't terrible towards asians, it's terrible towards morons. Hence why you're getting hated

    Being hated by one mentally impaired person on the internet is something I can live with (:
  • He can accuse you of cheating because he is an admin of the tournament and deals with the anticheat logs. Whether or not you are aware of what's in the logs does not affect his ability to determine the legitimacy of the match



    The competitive community isn't terrible towards asians, it's terrible towards morons. Hence why you're getting hated

    I don't believe Makaveli would host a tournament without some sort of transparency. From what you're saying, he can decide the outcome of a tournament just because he hosts it? That would be absurd.
  • Zhenend wrote: »
    Being hated by one mentally impaired person on the internet is something I can live with (:

    You might want to reread the thread
    Zhenend wrote: »
    I don't believe Makaveli would host a tournament without some sort of transparency. From what you're saying, he can decide the outcome of a tournament just because he hosts it? That would be absurd.

    What's absurd is that you're viewing the situation that way. No league has ever released the anticheat logs when a player is banned, get used to it
  • You might want to reread the thread



    What's absurd is that you're viewing the situation that way. No league has ever released the anticheat logs when a player is banned, get used to it

    I joined the thread 30 minutes ago lmaoo

    Well, I guess that's how it's going to be then. Unknown teams make it to finals, play it and suddenly they are accused of cheating after they've won. I'm sure if Fakeout won, there wouldn't be problems of any sort (:
  • Zhenend wrote: »
    I joined the thread 30 minutes ago lmaoo

    Well, I guess that's how it's going to be then. Unknown teams make it to finals, play it and suddenly they are accused of cheating after they've won. I'm sure if Fakeout won, there wouldn't be problems of any sort (:

    Because all of their players are old and are respected comp players. Where as the Asians have history for cheating in a7. Also don't try and play the innocent card doppelgänger came into e8 yesterday talking trash in the lobby. Just worsens the reputation you morons have. Also since you're new here, as lastnamerich said anticheat logs have never been released when a player is caught due to confidentiality and privacy, learn it, hate it, deal with it.
  • Creative_S wrote: »
    Because all of their players are old and are respected comp players. Where as the Asians have history for cheating in a7. Also don't try and play the innocent card doppelgänger came into e8 yesterday talking trash in the lobby. Just worsens the reputation you morons have. Also since you're new here, as lastnamerich said anticheat logs have never been released when a player is caught due to confidentiality and privacy, learn it, hate it, deal with it.

    So you are assuming we aren't old comp players too? All of us played competitively and just because we destroyed the top tier teams doesn't mean we hack. I played ocg https://www.twitch.tv/ocgleague/v/49654510, Dervitz- played esl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8LV8eWyVeU&t=55s and NANA is Ken http://prntscr.com/dpw4eh who played lan and won 3rd place, and Barret was on my esg team few years ago, Articuno imigrated from china who was an ex-tga player ign was lefthand http://prntscr.com/dpw9sz fourth one from the left.. Makaveli accused us of cheating based on a screenshot? What if blackbox auto flags some other thing that isn't even relevant to crossfire? Can you please look into this in depth?
  • KaizCz wrote: »
    So you are assuming we aren't old comp players too? All of us played competitively and just because we destroyed the top tier teams doesn't mean we hack. I played ocg https://www.twitch.tv/ocgleague/v/49654510, Dervitz- played esl and NANA is Ken http://prntscr.com/dpw4eh who played lan and won 3rd place, and Barret was on my esg team few years ago. Makaveli accused us of cheating based on a screenshot? What if blackbox auto flags some other thing that isn't even relevant to crossfire? Can you please look into this in depth?

    Your team had flagged and suspicious processes running. So put aside the "I played in one tournament years ago card" .
  • Creative_S wrote: »
    Your team had flagged and suspicious processes running. So put aside the "I played in one tournament years ago card" .[/QUOT'"

    "SUSPICIOUS PROCESS RUNNING" lol from what I know anything can be flagged and something that is flagged could have 0 relevance to crossfire
  • Creative_S wrote: »
    Your team had flagged and suspicious processes running. So put aside the "I played in one tournament years ago card" .

    Why'd you leave out the ex-tga member?

    Doppelganger has incredibly skilled players the "competitive community" here won't admit.
  • KaizCz wrote: »
    Creative_S wrote: »
    Your team had flagged and suspicious processes running. So put aside the "I played in one tournament years ago card" .[/QUOT'"

    "SUSPICIOUS PROCESS RUNNING" lol from what I know anything can be flagged and something that is flagged could have 0 relevance to crossfire

    Blatancy is a thing, and like it was said previously, you were caught, he technically does not need to show you anything. The program busted you, your gameplay busted you, give up.
  • You might want to reread the thread



    What's absurd is that you're viewing the situation that way. No league has ever released the anticheat logs when a player is banned, get used to it



    The thing is, we did receive the log, Just not sure how any of the processes is suspicious, please enlighten us

    https://postimg.org/image/pklpkx525/

    If anyone has any idea of which processes running in the back is suspcious, please point it out
  • Ken_S2 wrote: »
    The thing is, we did receive the log, Just not sure how any of the processes is suspicious, please enlighten us

    https://postimg.org/image/pklpkx525/

    If anyone has any idea of which processes running in the back is suspcious, please point it out

    Point out the suspicious processes please. If you can't read the Chinese on the lower lines, google kuGou dn player as said in the log next to the Chinese. It's a music player lmao.
  • KaizCz wrote: »

    Blatancy is a thing, and like it was said previously, you were caught, he technically does not need to show you anything. The program busted you, your gameplay busted you, give up.

    my @ss i got busted by the program. The program literally flags anything and with process that has nothing to do with crossfire. Listen @makaveli just post the anticheat logs somewhere and let people see what is wrong. Anywhere!
  • KaizCz wrote: »
    The program literally flags anything and with process that has nothing to do with crossfire.

    Why do you think that your team was flagged, then, and not any of the other teams? Why do you think there have not been false flags for any top level competitive players?

    I mean God damn, Remy even WAS cheating (he accidentally 360'd), and his client didn't flag anything. So why, then, do you claim "blackbox literally flags everything"?
  • Ellustrial wrote: »
    Why do you think that your team was flagged, then, and not any of the other teams? Why do you think there have not been false flags for any top level competitive players?

    I mean God damn, Remy even WAS cheating (he accidentally 360'd), and his client didn't flag anything. So why, then, do you claim "blackbox literally flags everything"?

    Alright Mr.WCA then why don't we get an explanation from the developers of blackbox? Flagged doesn't mean shyt because it literally said "oh this person has some suspicious process running please contact the developers" why don't we contact the developers and see ourselves? We didn't cheat for shyt and we ain't afraid to go in depth. This would nvr had happened at CFCL because z8 would actaully contact the developers. n you're gonna say something like Pokemon Go was busted at cfcl, stfu bro we got disqualified for muzzle flame u can even ask harabas for it cause they dqed us. If we got flagged so early on in the match why didn't Mak just straight on dq us? This is so fishy bro.
  • KaizCz wrote: »
    Alright Mr.WCA then why don't we get an explanation from the developers of blackbox? Flagged doesn't mean shyt because it literally said "oh this person has some suspicious process running please contact the developers" why don't we contact the developers and see ourselves? We didn't cheat for shyt and we ain't afraid to go in depth. This would nvr had happened at CFCL because z8 would actaully contact the developers. n you're gonna say something like Pokemon Go was busted at cfcl, stfu bro we got disqualified for muzzle flame u can even ask harabas for it cause they dqed us. If we got flagged so early on in the match why didn't Mak just straight on dq us? This is so fishy bro.

    I'm not sure how blackbox works, but generally if you get banned by an anticheat in CF then the ban will remain, regardless of the situation. That's just how things are in a small game/community
  • KaizCz wrote: »
    Alright Mr.WCA then why don't we get an explanation from the developers of blackbox? Flagged doesn't mean shyt because it literally said "oh this person has some suspicious process running please contact the developers" why don't we contact the developers and see ourselves? We didn't cheat for shyt and we ain't afraid to go in depth. This would nvr had happened at CFCL because z8 would actaully contact the developers. n you're gonna say something like Pokemon Go was busted at cfcl, stfu bro we got disqualified for muzzle flame u can even ask harabas for it cause they dqed us. If we got flagged so early on in the match why didn't Mak just straight on dq us? This is so fishy bro.

    You didn't answer my question, at all. Why has no other legitimate top-level player been flagged if, as you claim, the client randomly flags processes for no reason?
  • Creative_S wrote: »
    Because all of their players are old and are respected comp players. Where as the Asians have history for cheating in a7. Also don't try and play the innocent card doppelgänger came into e8 yesterday talking trash in the lobby. Just worsens the reputation you morons have. Also since you're new here, as lastnamerich said anticheat logs have never been released when a player is caught due to confidentiality and privacy, learn it, hate it, deal with it.

    I remember that Doppelgänger win the game on e8 and they called them noob after game for no reason. Just Because they lose the game LMAO
  • "Ur a ch1nk" "ch1nk are suppose to play shooting games and hck on crossfire" - CapitalSteez aka makavelli, aka the greatest admin of all time aka Bias is the last thing I am. Hmmmmmm lol? I mean do u still deny that u r a idiot making fool of urself lol haha
    http://imgur.com/a/WSs6N
  • I swear this game is beyond dead. Thanks for confirming it.
  • oBarlu wrote: »
    Sorry atleast 9 rounds at Lan is required for prize

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  • Tourney is like the Kenya government. Got each others back tho!
  • If you're apart of Doppelganger discuss it with your captain as I've sent out a PM to Kaiz. For anyone else it is confidential information and against the ToS to post it on a thread. I will submit the evidence to other tournament hosts to make sure Doppelganger is never able to compete.

    Hey Mak could u fix ur inbox? We have something to tell u
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