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I agree 100% GM is unplayable now because of the no kick vote!, before it was bad with sprayers but at least we could kick for annoying other players and spoiling the mode which is meant to be played silently as description says.
I suggested before removing Kick Vote the following
*4 kick vote per day, which had to be obtained by doing the following
-Dailymission = 1 kick vote
-Fever Level 1 = 1 kick vote
-Fever Level 2 = 1 kick vote
-Fever Level 2 = 1 kick vote
But instead of my suggestion we got "Kick Disabled " yes it testing phase but by the looks of it its widely accepted by SD/FFA and HMX/MM players, which left the GM community in the dark ( sprayer issue, loud guns)
So my solution to this Kick Vote issue if it removed is the following for Ghost mode
*Sound Item - Similar to Shadow mode ITem which reduces the Loud guns sprayer of other players by 80% allowing us sounders to play not be effected by noobs or high ranks with ZM weapns who know nothing about Pin Pointing. This ITem will also allow Loud gun players to use any weapon of their choice in Ghost mode without effect sounders or worry of being kicked!
*Finlay- Host enabled Kick vote system- In Ghost mode or any other mode, meaning players have the choice to join room with it disabled or enabled, joining Enabled room at your own risk of being kicked or Joining a Disabled room at your own risk of not being able to kick. This is fair for all players!
As for me I would gladly accept Sound Item to reduce the spray of others and the Kick vote system can stay removed, as It wont effect me the spray with that Item.
Also I have had enough of Ghost mode the past years of spray and now since the patch I tried to calm and play but I can't enjoy Ghost Mode any more and I believe its on the verge to become a failed mode if this spray(loud) issue is not solved and as for me I will avoid playing Ghost mode from now on, as I tried yesterday had 3 AK47 Gold and RPK sprayers following me and to top that had Macros in BL chasing me and leaving the sprayers taking advantage of the situation. BB ghost mode!! -
Not to mention that every little noob sprays with an M14-Gold or some MG since they hand those out for free...
Yeah, the list of Loud guns used in GM now since we cant use kick vote would be huge, yeah that too M14ebr Gold,MG mini Variants, List can go on and on , there is loud riffle which I hate which has screeching sound, OMG, Think in a GP crate!! one of the new ones!! before Lewis MG like low frequency that make you pull the plug out from PC
But yeah RIP Ghost Mode!!, Unless you like to play as BL spray wont effect you as much as us GR players!! -
[ 13 vips owner im a marshal ] i will tell you why i love this sistem of non kicking..
1) if z8 will put the Sound Item - Similar to Shadow mode..will be a greeat job.
1 time i got kick't i swer by a hacker in zm the clan whos BOZKUTLAR i think and the nob who's a LT.
so for now i love the non kicking vote
2) in hm u cant use assasin or maidin becose u will get kick't..(if u run and they can't catch u for sure u will get kick't)
3) in s&d if ur ace ur a priotity for geting kick't in last round and moustly in last min.
4) if u have high rank in a room with lowers rank u will get kick't if u will become ace that's for sure..
5) 1 time i got kick't becose i didn't trade the vip with a lower rank he kick't me out..
6) some times they kick the players only becose they having vip( i got that kick servel times)
((((((((( so z8 THX FOR REMOVING THE KICK FROM THE GAME)))))))))))))))
now i swer like never before i can play normaly and not geting kick(((((((((((((((love u z8 and don't change the no kicking vote leave it like this)))))))))))))))
gj.. -
[ 13 vips owner im a marshal ] i will tell you why i love this sistem of non kicking..
1) if z8 will put the Sound Item - Similar to Shadow mode..will be a greeat job.
1 time i got kick't i swer by a hacker in zm the clan whos BOZKUTLAR i think and the nob who's a LT.
so for now i love the non kicking vote
2) in hm u cant use assasin or maidin becose u will get kick't..(if u run and they can't catch u for sure u will get kick't)
3) in s&d if ur ace ur a priotity for geting kick't in last round and moustly in last min.
4) if u have high rank in a room with lowers rank u will get kick't if u will become ace that's for sure..
5) 1 time i got kick't becose i didn't trade the vip with a lower rank he kick't me out..
6) some times they kick the players only becose they having vip( i got that kick servel times)
((((((((( so z8 THX FOR REMOVING THE KICK FROM THE GAME)))))))))))))))
now i swer like never before i can play normaly and not geting kick(((((((((((((((love u z8 and don't change the no kicking vote leave it like this)))))))))))))))
gj..
Dude this thread is only about Ghost Mode.
I disagree with rest of you on this thread. I do understand that loud guns in ghost mode are problem but you have to see this "No Kick Voting System" from a diffrent perspective. In my opinion Ghost Mode could have better growing rate as everyone can play it now without worries that they will get kicked because they are "noobs", "carrying loud guns", "can''t bhop", "can't pp", "accidently blocking someone", "coming from some foreign country that you don't like", "playing on alt acc and getting called hacker just because you see him for first time", I'm sure there are more "reasons" I just can't think of them right now. Also we can't get kicked for having more than 2.0 k/d; if someone gets mad at me and start swearing I don't have to worry that I will get kicked eventually. Its just pure fun now without worries. Also I would like this option to become permanent as I would rather play with bunch of "noobs" then watch someone with 1/11 k/d getting kicked in last round from someone like you just because you saw his k/d and you think that by kicking him you will somehow manage to turn whole game around in last round or you simply feel better by kicking "that noob".
Kick Voting System is complete waste of time for every player and as I said in original "Kick Vote System - feedback thread" tool of evil.
If things were diffrent and only hackers were getting kicked then it would be a diffrent story. -
if anything its more playable now i dont have to worry about getting kicked because of how good i am. most GM games i get kicked because im all ways on top of the leaderboard GM is full of rage kickers and now i no longer have to worry about that ill take the risk of the hacers we all know no body kicks hacers any way only the legit players get kicked.
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hey man am like kik vote system IT do good for me.............. mayB u sleebing but game is very good with no KIk becouse 99% am get kicked for be pro to many tymes. this is how should be game ofc u will say otherwis U kiker nOOPs in game get pro like me ok? i teach u if u need no cry my baby
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I don't know why you guys even said something like removing VKS is good for GM??? There is only a few rooms (1-2) of GM at a time and 1 hacker get in --> bye bye game. GMUK is full of noobs and non-hacker (cos the pro players won't hack, and the noob players don't know how to) so I can understand about kicking Ace somehow (always get kicked in UK). But GMNA is smaller community but majority are all know-how--to-play players. Our concern is hacker, which flourished the past 2 days and made us cannot play even a single match. Peace.
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Dude this thread is only about Ghost Mode.
I disagree with rest of you on this thread. I do understand that loud guns in ghost mode are problem but you have to see this "No Kick Voting System" from a diffrent perspective. In my opinion Ghost Mode could have better growing rate as everyone can play it now without worries that they will get kicked because they are "noobs", "carrying loud guns", "can''t bhop", "can't pp", "accidently blocking someone", "coming from some foreign country that you don't like", "playing on alt acc and getting called hacker just because you see him for first time", I'm sure there are more "reasons" I just can't think of them right now. Also we can't get kicked for having more than 2.0 k/d; if someone gets mad at me and start swearing I don't have to worry that I will get kicked eventually. Its just pure fun now without worries. Also I would like this option to become permanent as I would rather play with bunch of "noobs" then watch someone with 1/11 k/d getting kicked in last round from someone like you just because you saw his k/d and you think that by kicking him you will somehow manage to turn whole game around in last round or you simply feel better by kicking "that noob".
Kick Voting System is complete waste of time for every player and as I said in original "Kick Vote System - feedback thread" tool of evil.
If things were diffrent and only hackers were getting kicked then it would be a diffrent story.
Maybe you should disagree with whoever puts the weapon restrictions for GM, vote kicking is no use. An initiative to only allow silenced main weapons should be taken instead of bringing the vote kicking as many people (including me) have been harmed badly from it. If what I purposed happens, no one will whine about "sprayers", etc.. "hackers" < probably the only good reason the vote kicking should be brought back, but then the fact that the whole game would be ruined pushes to the action of people reporting the hackers, which probably NEVER EVER HAPPENS. This doesn't only eliminate cheaters but also encourages GM players to help with the process of awaring whoever is responsible for this game's hacking prevention system. -
Ukantach1301 wrote: »I don't know why you guys even said something like removing VKS is good for GM??? There is only a few rooms (1-2) of GM at a time and 1 hacker get in --> bye bye game. GMUK is full of noobs and non-hacker (cos the pro players won't hack, and the noob players don't know how to) so I can understand about kicking Ace somehow (always get kicked in UK). But GMNA is smaller community but majority are all know-how--to-play players. Our concern is hacker, which flourished the past 2 days and made us cannot play even a single match. Peace.
There's a lot of noob clans for example pnoy's clan members who thinks anyone is who is better then them hack since they zp who.re and expect to be pro. -
Maybe you should disagree with whoever puts the weapon restrictions for GM, vote kicking is no use. An initiative to only allow silenced main weapons should be taken instead of bringing the vote kicking as many people (including me) have been harmed badly from it. If what I purposed happens, no one will whine about "sprayers", etc.. "hackers" < probably the only good reason the vote kicking should be brought back, but then the fact that the whole game would be ruined pushes to the action of people reporting the hackers, which probably NEVER EVER HAPPENS. This doesn't only eliminate cheaters but also encourages GM players to help with the process of awaring whoever is responsible for this game's hacking prevention system.
As I said if only hackers were getting kicked then it would be diffrent story; Ghost Mode players can mostly take care of rooms they are playing in and catch a hacker in no time if one enters but there is also a downside to Kick Vote System where most of Ghost Mode rooms have a kicking festivals varying from "noobs" kicking better players or vice versa; lets not forget to mention players kicking from pure boredom and other various and complete random reasons.
I don't disagree with weapon restrictions but players shouldn't be who force it via Kick Vote System, I agree that we should get an option for silenced Ghost Mode rooms but I would also like that Kick Vote System stay down because players are kicking others for wrong reasons.
If we do get an option for silenced Ghost Mode rooms I would gladly go back and forth between Silenced and Regular Ghost Mode rooms as both "spraying" and "silence" rooms have their own charms.
When it comes to hackers it is little bit awkward that you can't kick them out without Kick Vote System but that may lead to more bans as they will stay in room until end of game and because of that there will be more material for [GM]'s if players actually report those hackers. -
As I said if only hackers were getting kicked then it would be diffrent story; Ghost Mode players can mostly take care of rooms they are playing in and catch a hacker in no time if one enters but there is also a downside to Kick Vote System where most of Ghost Mode rooms have a kicking festivals varying from "noobs" kicking better players or vice versa; lets not forget to mention players kicking from pure boredom and other various and complete random reasons.
I don't disagree with weapon restrictions but players shouldn't be who force it via Kick Vote System, I agree that we should get an option for silenced Ghost Mode rooms but I would also like that Kick Vote System stay down because players are kicking others for wrong reasons.
If we do get an option for silenced Ghost Mode rooms I would gladly go back and forth between Silenced and Regular Ghost Mode rooms as both "spraying" and "silence" rooms have their own charms.
When it comes to hackers it is little bit awkward that you can't kick them out without Kick Vote System but that may lead to more bans as they will stay in room until end of game and because of that there will be more material for [GM]'s if players actually report those hackers.
I think all of this doesn't matter anyway that we are arguing about, not like someone actually cares to look through this and consider our opinions. -
Ghost mode players are who kick me.
I think all of this doesn't matter anyway that we are arguing about, not like someone actually cares to look through this and consider our opinions.
Their are 6 reason you will be kicked in Ghost mode
* Sprayers (Any loud none silence guns!!!, Regardless if you sound or not)
*Glitches
*Hacking
*Huge Ping spike(Laggers)
*A.F.K with C4 or A..F.K last
*Ace or Good KDR like 16-2, 22-1 etc general scores
However this is thread about Ghost Mode being unplayable because of Sprayers and not being able to kick them!!, I would 100% kick you for the following don't care if your Pro or not, its Ghost Mode main purpose is to use your ear sense "Sound" breathing I.E "Pin Point", Say you join the room with Ak47, RPK, MG3 or any other MG guns or SMG or loud Riffle maybe Exception for M4A1, Then you are Guaranteed to be kicked by me and others who are trying to play the game how its supposed to be played Using Silent guns listening to slightly breathing you can hear.
I don't know which category you fit in for the above reason kicked, so not aiming this at you, just to show who I would kick, which is a valid reason, annoying spray, spoil game just like hackers, In ghost mode i place hackers and Sprayers in same category = "Kicked", those who say we don't have ZP not rich like you etc, who said need ZP etc for Silent gun, GM have provided many ways to get access to silent gun, Events, ZM2 rewards guaranteed silent guns, also most easy way FP shop Silent M4A1-S, get them then spray the whole map for all I care!!! as long as its silent!!!,
again not aimed at you, its ghost mode discussion, So the only way to prevent Ghost mode player from kicking "noobs", "sprayers" "loud Gun users", Is to provide an item "sound system" reduce the spray sound, I only see Kick in GM 100% of the times on sprayers, Yes i get kicked for being ace or for not giving VIP but that comes with the price being good gamer!, but main issue is spray for most of us! specially now Kick disabled, other viable option is "Host Enable kick " or "Host Disable Kick" of cause you join either on for those Enabled or Disabled at your own risk, both have advantages and disadvantages. -
CamelSoldier wrote: »Their are 6 reason you will be kicked in Ghost mode
* Sprayers (Any loud none silence guns!!!, Regardless if you sound or not)
*Glitches
*Hacking
*Huge Ping spike(Laggers)
*A.F.K with C4 or A..F.K last
*Ace or Good KDR like 16-2, 22-1 etc general scores
However this is thread about Ghost Mode being unplayable because of Sprayers and not being able to kick them!!, I would 100% kick you for the following don't care if your Pro or not, its Ghost Mode main purpose is to use your ear sense "Sound" breathing I.E "Pin Point", Say you join the room with Ak47, RPK, MG3 or any other MG guns or SMG or loud Riffle maybe Exception for M4A1, Then you are Guaranteed to be kicked by me and others who are trying to play the game how its supposed to be played Using Silent guns listening to slightly breathing you can hear.
I don't know which category you fit in for the above reason kicked, so not aiming this at you, just to show who I would kick, which is a valid reason, annoying spray, spoil game just like hackers, In ghost mode i place hackers and Sprayers in same category = "Kicked", those who say we don't have ZP not rich like you etc, who said need ZP etc for Silent gun, GM have provided many ways to get access to silent gun, Events, ZM2 rewards guaranteed silent guns, also most easy way FP shop Silent M4A1-S, get them then spray the whole map for all I care!!! as long as its silent!!!,
again not aimed at you, its ghost mode discussion, So the only way to prevent Ghost mode player from kicking "noobs", "sprayers" "loud Gun users", Is to provide an item "sound system" reduce the spray sound, I only see Kick in GM 100% of the times on sprayers, Yes i get kicked for being ace or for not giving VIP but that comes with the price being good gamer!, but main issue is spray for most of us! specially now Kick disabled, other viable option is "Host Enable kick " or "Host Disable Kick" of cause you join either on for those Enabled or Disabled at your own risk, both have advantages and disadvantages.
So what you are basically saying is that people use the vote kicking system for your listed reasons, and use it in a clean way..... I doubt I would be kicked out.
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CamelSoldier wrote: »Their are 6 reason you will be kicked in Ghost mode
* Sprayers (Any loud none silence guns!!!, Regardless if you sound or not)
*Glitches
*Hacking
*Huge Ping spike(Laggers)
*A.F.K with C4 or A..F.K last
*Ace or Good KDR like 16-2, 22-1 etc general scores
However this is thread about Ghost Mode being unplayable because of Sprayers and not being able to kick them!!, I would 100% kick you for the following don't care if your Pro or not, its Ghost Mode main purpose is to use your ear sense "Sound" breathing I.E "Pin Point", Say you join the room with Ak47, RPK, MG3 or any other MG guns or SMG or loud Riffle maybe Exception for M4A1, Then you are Guaranteed to be kicked by me and others who are trying to play the game how its supposed to be played Using Silent guns listening to slightly breathing you can hear.
I don't know which category you fit in for the above reason kicked, so not aiming this at you, just to show who I would kick, which is a valid reason, annoying spray, spoil game just like hackers, In ghost mode i place hackers and Sprayers in same category = "Kicked", those who say we don't have ZP not rich like you etc, who said need ZP etc for Silent gun, GM have provided many ways to get access to silent gun, Events, ZM2 rewards guaranteed silent guns, also most easy way FP shop Silent M4A1-S, get them then spray the whole map for all I care!!! as long as its silent!!!,
again not aimed at you, its ghost mode discussion, So the only way to prevent Ghost mode player from kicking "noobs", "sprayers" "loud Gun users", Is to provide an item "sound system" reduce the spray sound, I only see Kick in GM 100% of the times on sprayers, Yes i get kicked for being ace or for not giving VIP but that comes with the price being good gamer!, but main issue is spray for most of us! specially now Kick disabled, other viable option is "Host Enable kick " or "Host Disable Kick" of cause you join either on for those Enabled or Disabled at your own risk, both have advantages and disadvantages.
*Insult others. Some noobs that spend their time insulting people and accusing them of hacking.
*Haters. Those that kick you without any reason cos they hate u. (e.g. Koki and Moetaz kick eachother whenever they get into a room. Those 2 also get kicked by others.)
*Feel like it. Sometimes I kick people just because I feel like it. Definitely VKS abuser hhh.
*Kick voting addicts. They just can't live without kicking people.
By the way, a lot of pro that can use AK efficiently without interrupting other and still get kills. While I would recommend all room to use silenced weapons, if you can't hear in the spray then you still don't have the position to judge other players. Public is where everyone can play, and they can do whatever they want, mostly without strategies or efforts. You have to bear with it when you play in public. Or else, just create some rooms with password, invite your friends etc. or host some competitive plays with rules. Anyway is fine. I'm tired of being insulted by noobs, VIP abusers, and high ranks that think they are pros just because I use G36K. Using a silenced gun doesn't make you "pro", using a loud gun doesn't make you "noob", unless it's in tournaments or competitive games where team play is important.
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Ukantach1301 wrote: »a lot of pro that can use AK efficiently without interrupting other and still get kills. Your ideas about VKS is fine though.
Of cause people can use Ak47 and get kills, "without interrupting others?" that's a joke, Yes you might not spray and soon as you hear ghost you would open fire and on other side map Sounder is about to pin point ghost breath low and hoppers and as soon as an Ak47 is fired 100% interrupted the other player, you might think you didn't, but I can guarantee, The AkK47 sprayer or that efficient user Ak47 , his Ak47 skill will only help him and will interrupt the other player regardless where to in the map.
This has happened many times to me, I am about to Pin point Bhoper from A site and lets just say Pro sounder uses AK47 in middle of the map , might not spray but AK47 is so loud it 1000% distracted me and bam lose focus and "Good Bye Johnny xDD" There is a reason why we don't use loud guns, we don't want to interrupt others, but it seem there are other people who have no consideration of others!, Thanks for the reply!, we need positive Feedback here specially for Ghost mode.
I really don't like kicking loud gun users but, it necessary when we have easy access of silent guns and they have no consideration and even after asking them to Please change your weapon they just insult and ignore. As i said "Host Enable" or "Host Disabled" sprayers or loud guns users can enter "disabled room" or "Balanced Silent Weapon only option, Host option" or "Silent Item reduce spray".
Keep the feedback we need more Ghost mode players to, voice their concerns for the future of Ghost mode and give positive suggestion, that will benefit all, I believe Sound item will benefit all, I have strong view, because Ghost mode is unique and It would be loss to lose it -
Ukantach1301 wrote: »*Insult others. Some noobs that spend their time insulting people and accusing them of hacking.
*Haters. Those that kick you without any reason cos they hate u. (e.g. Koki and Moetaz kick eachother whenever they get into a room. Those 2 also get kicked by others.)
*Feel like it. Sometimes I kick people just because I feel like it. Definitely VKS abuser hhh.
*Kick voting addicts. They just can't live without kicking people.
By the way, a lot of pro that can use AK efficiently without interrupting other and still get kills. While I would recommend all room to use silenced weapons, if you can't hear in the spray then you still don't have the position to judge other players. Public is where everyone can play, and they can do whatever they want, mostly without strategies or efforts. You have to bear with it when you play in public. Or else, just create some rooms with password, invite your friends etc. or host some competitive plays with rules. Anyway is fine. I'm tired of being insulted by noobs, VIP abusers, and high ranks that think they are pros just because I use G36K. Using a silenced gun doesn't make you "pro", using a loud gun doesn't make you "noob", unless it's in tournaments or competitive games where team play is important.
Your ideas about VKS is fine though. -
I agree that no kick voting is harmful, but only to the point of not being able to rid of cheaters. In regard to sprayers/noobie players, instead of getting salty and kicking them, just get good. There was a time where players didn't need to use silenced weapons to do well, and there are still players who don't need them. You are playing pubs, loud weapons will be separating players who are legitimately good at the game and the trashy posers who want to feel like they are good at the game.
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no kick doesnt even seem much of a problem except when you run into the cheaters who are trying to get kick vote re enabled. lawl. geniuses, right? one of them even claimed to be in panthers. trash players all around now. even dodged my 1v1 and im a baddie
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CamelSoldier wrote: »Of cause people can use Ak47 and get kills, "without interrupting others?" that's a joke, Yes you might not spray and soon as you hear ghost you would open fire and on other side map Sounder is about to pin point ghost breath low and hoppers and as soon as an Ak47 is fired 100% interrupted the other player, you might think you didn't, but I can guarantee, The AkK47 sprayer or that efficient user Ak47 , his Ak47 skill will only help him and will interrupt the other player regardless where to in the map.
Keep the feedback we need more Ghost mode players to, voice their concerns for the future of Ghost mode and give positive suggestion, that will benefit all, I believe Sound item will benefit all, I have strong view, because Ghost mode is unique and It would be loss to lose it
Well I can't and almost never use AK47. If Someault use it, I would kick him also cos I know he can't use it either. But you know what make me more irritated than AK? Multiple M4 Silenced players spraying at the air without a single trace of breath. I can't hear over that... Basically, we can never deal with this situation (especially in NA when all BL are mostly bhoppers and have breath down). Just need to adapt to it.
Sadly, GM community is dead. The old GMers is gone one by one while the new ones are mostly egotistic toxic noobs that don't really have the will to improve (including me. RIP). -
Ukantach1301 wrote: »Well I can't and almost never use AK47. If Someault use it, I would kick him also cos I know he can't use it either. But you know what make me more irritated than AK? Multiple M4 Silenced players spraying at the air without a single trace of breath. I can't hear over that... Basically, we can never deal with this situation (especially in NA when all BL are mostly bhoppers and have breath down). Just need to adapt to it.
Sadly, GM community is dead. The old GMers is gone one by one while the new ones are mostly egotistic toxic noobs that don't really have the will to improve (including me. RIP). -
Only part I agree with is the silenced sprayers part, whenever there's one last ghost everyone runs mid and lits the **** out of it. I am toxic but I am improving you invalid tmp, cheytac, power axe user. And if I ever use an ak its to annoy you hhh.Tbt the first cw we did, "My score was 0-8 both halfs" -Ukantach131 so you call koki and I out as toxic but not you because you are calm despite the fact that you are not even trying 99% of the time even when we were doing a cw.Ukantach1301 wrote: »Well I can't and almost never use AK47. If Someault use it, I would kick him also cos I know he can't use it either. But you know what make me more irritated than AK? Multiple M4 Silenced players spraying at the air without a single trace of breath. I can't hear over that... Basically, we can never deal with this situation (especially in NA when all BL are mostly bhoppers and have breath down). Just need to adapt to it.
Sadly, GM community is dead. The old GMers is gone one by one while the new ones are mostly egotistic toxic noobs that don't really have the will to improve (including me. RIP).
You two scrubs deserve an Infraction, honestly.
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I don't know how many times we have to say that there is a thread already about this topic.............
What thread are you refering to?, dont say Kick vote thread, This is Ghost mode topic relating to unplayable issue due to kick vote, mostly only Ghost mode players will dicusss their issues here relating to that specific mode., Doesnt mean you should also go to this thread and vote on Kick system and even suggest better solution to Kick vote relating to Ghost mode if you will, but I dont see similar thread specificly about Ghost mode kick vote issue making it unplayable and reasons why Kick vote making it unplayble such as sprayers as stated in this thread.
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?320083-Kick-vote-removal-FEEDBACK-THREAD
the above thread is Kick vote feeback and voteing poll, not specific to any modes, this thread "gm unplayable " wont have kids spamming about hmx or mm or noob block so keep kick vote as they do in the Feedback thread, if that what you meant about another thread
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