King Mode
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Still, yet to see a singal hacker in pubs this year. Where are you finding these people "hacking in King Mode"?
Feel like you're the type to get headshot a few times, then claim "he's cheating". You would be wasting the staff's time by sending false reports anyway.
"You're being ignorant, just because you don't see any hackers doesn't mean others don't." Yeah, true. Doesn't change the fact that these hackers are not coming in waves and there is not many of them. The hacking situation in normal pubs are at their best in years, yet people complain. Prove me wrong. Wanna bet £200 that the first pub you join won't have a hacker? -
BloodClarts wrote: »Still, yet to see a singal hacker in pubs this year. Where are you finding these people "hacking in King Mode"?
Feel like you're the type to get headshot a few times, then claim "he's cheating". You would be wasting the staff's time by sending false reports anyway.
"You're being ignorant, just because you don't see any hackers doesn't mean others don't." Yeah, true. Doesn't change the fact that these hackers are not coming in waves and there is not many of them. The hacking situation in normal pubs are at their best in years, yet people complain. Prove me wrong. Wanna bet £200 that the first pub you join won't have a hacker?
I agree with you 100% and the fact I also get bitter when I get headshotted 3 times in a row but that just my bitterness but I really don't hakuse unless I have really good prove he's cheating then I will call him out on it.
And beside in King mode you can beat a cheater by WORKING together against him this in one of the modes where you can actually win against a cheater . -
BloodClarts wrote: »Feel like you're the type to get headshot a few times, then claim "he's cheating". You would be wasting the staff's time by sending false reports anyway.
This made me laugh. I'm not one of those that QQ "hack" after getting headshotted. The guy I'm talking about, is someone who uses high-jump. Aka whenever he jumps, he flies like 15 feet up in the air. He had a low ping, and didn't move like he had low fps spikes. I even spectated him in 1st person view and whenever he jumped, he actually looked down aiming at other people. If that isn't obvious enough, then idk what is. -
Y0ungAngie wrote: »they won't accept video proof so....
Can I like do it via PM on forum? ._.
So I assume you have video proof, if so send it to me and I'll retract what I said and apologise... Unless it's been convientently deleted.
This forum has so much bs it's unbelievable, it's like they think I don't see a lot of different forumers in game falsely hackusating people. SMH -
BloodClarts wrote: »So I assume you have video proof, if so send it to me and I'll retract what I said and apologise... Unless it's been convientently deleted.
This forum has so much bs it's unbelievable, it's like they think I don't see a lot of different forumers in game falsely hackusating people. SMH
Here ya go, buddy. Please let me know if you believe any of them is actually playing legit.
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Fact of the matter is, regardless of how much hackusating occurs, that hackers still do happen and so it's stupid to disable the option of Saving Replays in rooms if the replays are the only acceptable 'proof' when reporting a hacker. And yes hackers are in MUCH smaller quantity than in earlier years of this CF. But to say they don't happen then LOL. I think for me it's been about 1 a week in pubs. Which is good compared to the 3+ every match it used to be years ago.
But yea most players try to avoid getting accused of hacking. others...not so much.
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TheShadowRo wrote: »Lolz that rar file have 26 replays ... i don't have time too watch them (.. i think support team ,,have,, time ).. so maybe later
P.S. I personally have around 50 replays from 2016 to rewiev and send ..
...but i must watch them first , write down time when player X or Y use hack
...and then compltete and send a ticket where must indicate time from replays ..etc etc ..
...lots of work to do for free ( from my time )
.. and support team not even answer back to tell me if i was right or wrong .. or at least to tell me they saw the replay ..
not any kind of feedback ...
So most of the time i give up ( i already have sent over 100 hack tickets with no response back).
They already "watched" the replays and I guess I falsely accused those players of hacking. I'm still wondering how can he get from his base to mine in a couple of seconds, on black widow, with m60 o.o
I did all of that stuff, but it doesn't help at all. Times at which it's more than obvious that he's hacking, rounds, his player profile on Z8games and others hacks which the he used in the replay.
Yes, it's sad that we don't get any feedback from hacking reports, but I'm sure they are not aware of that. -
BloodClarts wrote: »So I assume you have video proof, if so send it to me and I'll retract what I said and apologise... Unless it's been convientently deleted.
This forum has so much bs it's unbelievable, it's like they think I don't see a lot of different forumers in game falsely hackusating people. SMH
Yeah sure I'll send you the videos, they're on youtube.
2 videos of the same guy high jumping and 1 new video of someone else speed running.
Only 2/3 videos are on youtube so when I get on pc, I'll upload the 3rd one and send all at once -
lostinforest wrote: »Here ya go, buddy. Please let me know if you believe any of them is actually playing legit.
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Firstly couldn't download it. From what the other guy said there's 26 save files, no one has got the time for that. Thirdly that last comment wasn't directed at you, so I have no need for your replays. Finally none of these videos have time stamps on them, so how do I know if they were saved in 2016?
Tell you what, since you're so adamant about there's hackers in like every single game and nothing is being done about it, how about a bet? £1,000 says that there won't be a hacker in the pub you join in UK4, you should use a currency exchange site to figure out what to pay me.And yes hackers are in MUCH smaller quantity than in earlier years of this CF. But to say they don't happen then LOL.
Did I say that? You might wanna read that again.BloodClarts wrote: »"You're being ignorant, just because you don't see any hackers doesn't mean others don't." Yeah, true. Doesn't change the fact that these hackers are not coming in waves and there is not many of them. The hacking situation in normal pubs are at their best in years, yet people complain. Prove me wrong. Wanna bet £200 that the first pub you join won't have a hacker?Y0ungAngie wrote: »Yeah sure I'll send you the videos, they're on youtube.
2 videos of the same guy high jumping and 1 new video of someone else speed running.
Only 2/3 videos are on youtube so when I get on pc, I'll upload the 3rd one and send all at once
Yeah just watched your videos and those jumps were dodgy. Never saw it before, maybe I am just lucky, but still yet to see a hacker for myself in game. -
BloodClarts wrote: »Firstly couldn't download it. From what the other guy said there's 26 save files, no one has got the time for that. Thirdly that last comment wasn't directed at you, so I have no need for your replays. Finally none of these videos have time stamps on them, so how do I know if they were saved in 2016?
Tell you what, since you're so adamant about there's hackers in like every single game and nothing is being done about it, how about a bet? £1,000 says that there won't be a hacker in the pub you join in UK4, you should use a currency exchange site to figure out what to pay me.
Well, I got nothing but replays in that rar file, so idk why it detected it as malicious.
It wasn't directed at me, but you said that there are other people falsely acusing players for being hackers and that you saw no hackers this year. Just wanted to show you some.
There aren't a lot of hackers, but they a fair amount of them do exist in the game. Not enough of them to do 1000 pound bets, but they do exist. And looks like those hackers are not really getting banned.
Replays do have "time stamps"
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BloodClarts wrote: »Did I say that? You might wanna read that again.
Hence why I didn't quote you. I wasn't implying you said there weren't any and in fact was more of a general "don't say there aren't any", kinda funny you even assumed that was about you. But anyways, just stating a fact before some numb nuts joins in and tries to say there aren't any hackers anymore like almost always happens during these discussions. Plus it kinda pushes the idea that we need the replay system to be available to all modes. Doesn't really make much sense for WHY it would be disabled and thus make it harder to report hackers that go into those modes. Maybe a GM could get us an explanation for that.
Oh and to something you did say though...of course people are going to complain about a hacker when they DO run across them. It disrupts the game play perhaps even more than before because now people can actually, kind of, play the game. At least, that is, when a hacker infiltrates a room full of players who actually KNOW how to play the game and not just a match full of Gun Hunters. Before it was so common that people just shook their head and went and found some friends. Now a lot of their friends don't play due to various reasons, mainly involving the failure of the development of this game to adapt to the needs of the player base that supports it, and so they can't turn to rooms with friends as much. That of course mixes decent to good players in with the nabs, which increases the hackusations as well. And since there is still a fair share of actual hackers too, people get even more paranoid. -
Plus it kinda pushes the idea that we need the replay system to be available to all modes. Doesn't really make much sense for WHY it would be disabled and thus make it harder to report hackers that go into those modes. Maybe a GM could get us an explanation for that.
Maybe I can help.Do you know that Bridge tdm map? The ship reskin with heli and hot time?Have you ever tried to load a replay on that map?The game will freeze or crash when the helicopter should appear and the map suffers changes(boxes dissapearing).
Now this is for everyone:go figure why theres no replay in king mode where stuff also appear and dissapear and the map "layout" changes(from open area to that ring and etc).The replay system was never upgraded to handle such things.
(Sidenote:as for zm replays or bot mode replays:the bots would not appear and it would look like you are shooting the air.How i know this?Back from the times when "replaytemp.cfr" existed.Tried it with the first zm map and it was whatbi described above) -
Maybe I can help.Do you know that Bridge tdm map? The ship reskin with heli and hot time?Have you ever tried to load a replay on that map?The game will freeze or crash when the helicopter should appear and the map suffers changes(boxes dissapearing).
Now this is for everyone:go figure why theres no replay in king mode where stuff also appear and dissapear and the map "layout" changes(from open area to that ring and etc).The replay system was never upgraded to handle such things.
(Sidenote:as for zm replays or bot mode replays:the bots would not appear and it would look like you are shooting the air.How i know this?Back from the times when "replaytemp.cfr" existed.Tried it with the first zm map and it was whatbi described above)
so in other words. Laziness on the developers end to upgrade/fix something. Wow what a shocker. #StoryofCF -
so in other words. Laziness on the developers end to upgrade/fix something. Wow what a shocker. #StoryofCF
Hmm,or maybe because not too many people bother to play Bridge they didnt looked into it.As for King mode,the lack of replay could be because of them not bothering with Bridge,let alone bother with a map which changes more than one time during a match and cuz king mode is a temporary mode.Sheep mode didnt had replay mode either and there was nothing on that map which was changed(layout or boxes/etc. dissapearing)only sheeps...maybe sheeps wouldnt show on the replay if,lets say,the sheeps were made based on bots and they were simply bots following you in a straight line.
Im not defending the devs,I just tried to see what the cause might be.(since I last played them long time ago,I dont know if all 3 super soldier modes have replay or not althought I think not and I dont see any reason why those 3 shouldnt have replay...Theyre 'static" maps with crates dropping from the sky at most and thats all(just like mutation modes)...) -
I still haven't seen the replays, but I'll take your word for it. Just because you may report an obvious hacker on occasion, doesn't mean you still can't accuse others of hacking in game. I'll be honest mate £1,000 is chump change, almost chicken change, but that's besides the point. There was a point in time where you would join a game and there was almost a guarantee you would come across at least 1 hacker. If it's not like how it was before, what does that mean? It means whatever they're doing is working, you can't complain when they've made most pubs hack free.You have to realise this is a free to play game. Obviously there are going to be hackers there's no way around that, but to act like they haven't done much is a bit dumb considering the lack of hackers.lostinforest wrote: »It wasn't directed at me, but you said that there are other people falsely acusing players for being hackers and that you saw no hackers this year. Just wanted to show you some.There aren't a lot of hackers, but they a fair amount of them do exist in the game. Not enough of them to do 1000 pound bets, but they do exist. And looks like those hackers are not really getting banned.
Well I only assumed because, that's the response I always get. "just because you don't see hackers doesn't mean they don't exist" Duhhh.. Take a look at ranked matches. No you can't complain, because the way people complain is usually more directed towards Z8Games. "they don't do anything, can't ban hackers, reports don't do anything, fix your game". Sometimes I feel like people forget that they can actually leave a room. See a hacker that's not being kicked? Leave. What is the point of staying? Kind of stupid to be honest, especially when the chances of seeing a hacker is so low you could join a new room and it'll likely be hack free. People accusing other people of hacking because they are paranoid? No you're wrong, people accuse just to get you kicked. 95% of the time(obviously not a real statistic) they know you're either good or got lucky, but they just want you out the game so they don't die as much and enjoy their game play at the cost of yours. That's just how it is, well at least from my experience of this game.kinda funny you even assumed that was about you. Oh and to something you did say though...of course people are going to complain about a hacker when they DO run across them. It disrupts the game play perhaps even more than before because now people can actually, kind of, play the game. people get [] paranoid. -
Y0ungAngie wrote: »I love how offtopic this went.
I just wanna know how to report them ._.
When I asked them how to report hackers in ZM, they answered:
Posted on: 14 August 2014 09:47 AM
Hello,
Thank you for taking the time to contact the Crossfire Support team with this violation report.
With the size and scope of our games it is difficult to actively police our community, often times we rely on the help of our players to keep the community friendly and enjoyable for all.
Our hacking investigation team reviews every submitted hacking report. Depending how many reports get submitted at the same time this process can take longer than usual. To that extent we will research your report and take the appropriate action based on our findings. Please note however that due to security and privacy concerns, we will not notify players of our findings.
We are aware that it is currently not possible to save replays in Wave Mode. In case you are recording your matches with Fraps or similar programs. Please upload the video file to a file sharing website and send us the link. We apologize for any inconvenience this issue may have caused you.
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Regards,
[GM] Celestine
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But two years later, I get this as an answer to my report of a hacker in ZM:
07 March 2016 10:43 AM
Hello,
Thank you for contacting Z8Games Support Center.
In order to process Hacking Reports efficiently, please resubmit the hacking report with a replay file in the Hacking Reports section on our Support website.
We thank you for your understanding, and we apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you.
Regards,
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So I'm not sure if they accept videos of players hacking in king mode either... -
I think there might be one way for them to accept video proof.Possibly the only way (but they have to state they accept this to be a 100% working method)
Why isnt video proof accepted in the first place? Because it can be altered they say,cuz(now its my theory) its a private video recorded by you playing and only you have the "original" (if we count the final video as altered)
How to work around this? Simply stream your game and have VOD/video saving(or w/e the name is) activated.That way when youre done streaming you will have an instant video of all of your gameplay which was LIVE as the actual true stuff of what happen in those games.VODS cant be replaced or edited so this should work.All you have to do in case you find a hacker is to send the link to your FULL VOD with the timer/time stamp in the hacking report.DO NOT send a cut video from the VOD but send the full recording itself otherwise it will simply fall under possible altered video.
This is my idea/solution,anyone feel free to agree/disagree/use it or contest it,it's fine.Still if no GMs comes and specifically says that they will take this as an alternative,then theres no actual guarantee that the report will be valid. -
I think there might be one way for them to accept video proof.Possibly the only way (but they have to state they accept this to be a 100% working method)
Why isnt video proof accepted in the first place? Because it can be altered they say,cuz(now its my theory) its a private video recorded by you playing and only you have the "original" (if we count the final video as altered)
How to work around this? Simply stream your game and have VOD/video saving(or w/e the name is) activated.That way when youre done streaming you will have an instant video of all of your gameplay which was LIVE as the actual true stuff of what happen in those games.VODS cant be replaced or edited so this should work.All you have to do in case you find a hacker is to send the link to your FULL VOD with the timer/time stamp in the hacking report.DO NOT send a cut video from the VOD but send the full recording itself otherwise it will simply fall under possible altered video.
This is my idea/solution,anyone feel free to agree/disagree/use it or contest it,it's fine.Still if no GMs comes and specifically says that they will take this as an alternative,then theres no actual guarantee that the report will be valid.
Now let's wait and see if a GM replies. -
Seems like a decent idea but not many players have good enough computers to record live footage and who wants to record live footage all the time? It will definitely affect your ping and possibly your fps.I think there might be one way for them to accept video proof.Possibly the only way (but they have to state they accept this to be a 100% working method)
Why isnt video proof accepted in the first place? Because it can be altered they say,cuz(now its my theory) its a private video recorded by you playing and only you have the "original" (if we count the final video as altered)
How to work around this? Simply stream your game and have VOD/video saving(or w/e the name is) activated.That way when youre done streaming you will have an instant video of all of your gameplay which was LIVE as the actual true stuff of what happen in those games.VODS cant be replaced or edited so this should work.All you have to do in case you find a hacker is to send the link to your FULL VOD with the timer/time stamp in the hacking report.DO NOT send a cut video from the VOD but send the full recording itself otherwise it will simply fall under possible altered video.
This is my idea/solution,anyone feel free to agree/disagree/use it or contest it,it's fine.Still if no GMs comes and specifically says that they will take this as an alternative,then theres no actual guarantee that the report will be valid.
Overall, it is solid idea but another solution should be found by the developers. -
Well,no GM has given any answer so far,which is a shame,regarding the alternative reporting method in modes which dont have replays.
This thread will eventually sink to the bottom along with the idea.Oh well at least I tried.
I even sent them a PM on forum asking how, no reply also lol.
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I also have a couple videos waitingY0ungAngie wrote: »I even sent them a PM on forum asking how, no reply also lol.
Also, this is from support: http://prnt.sc/chmqb7
*GM closes your ticket*
*another problem successfully solved*
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I think there might be one way for them to accept video proof.Possibly the only way (but they have to state they accept this to be a 100% working method)
Why isnt video proof accepted in the first place? Because it can be altered they say,cuz(now its my theory) its a private video recorded by you playing and only you have the "original" (if we count the final video as altered)
How to work around this? Simply stream your game and have VOD/video saving(or w/e the name is) activated.That way when youre done streaming you will have an instant video of all of your gameplay which was LIVE as the actual true stuff of what happen in those games.VODS cant be replaced or edited so this should work.All you have to do in case you find a hacker is to send the link to your FULL VOD with the timer/time stamp in the hacking report.DO NOT send a cut video from the VOD but send the full recording itself otherwise it will simply fall under possible altered video.
This is my idea/solution,anyone feel free to agree/disagree/use it or contest it,it's fine.Still if no GMs comes and specifically says that they will take this as an alternative,then theres no actual guarantee that the report will be valid.
GMs, can we PLEASE get an answer?
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