MODs Vote & Evaluation.
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Through the years of my experience in the dull forums of CF, I have noticed that there are always those two sides, the community and the "Staff".
Rarely were ever on the same page.
Usually you find MODs on your topic trying hard to oppose your opinion whatever it is. That if your topic even remained open for a while.
Bottom line without much philosophy is that there are certain MODs that I think the community are getting bothered with.
May I be the first to raise his hand and announce my frustration.
I would like to open the Idea of Voting to MODs evaluation. Because I am pretty sure if Z8 did this, we will be singing farewell to some MODs here.
I pretty sure it's within our rights to do this, and if the community wants some change, let it start from here. Our voices needs to be heard not closed, opposed and banned.
Never have I seen a negative thing by [MOD]Andrew or has he ever closed someone's thread other than trolls. As for the others, without pointing 2 special ones, you better take off your arrogance and acting like everyone is beneath you, or else you don't deserve your MOD spot.
My message to the reasonable people in the CF Community:
Instead of just puffing your cheeks. If you feel that there are certain changes can be made, then YOU and only YOU can make the difference, every little thing can be vital, stop spending money ( Seriously ), express what you want more and more, change your signature. As long as you bow, don't expect a change.
Want a proof ? #remove_....from_theground and look what happened.
Rarely were ever on the same page.
Usually you find MODs on your topic trying hard to oppose your opinion whatever it is. That if your topic even remained open for a while.
Bottom line without much philosophy is that there are certain MODs that I think the community are getting bothered with.
May I be the first to raise his hand and announce my frustration.
I would like to open the Idea of Voting to MODs evaluation. Because I am pretty sure if Z8 did this, we will be singing farewell to some MODs here.
I pretty sure it's within our rights to do this, and if the community wants some change, let it start from here. Our voices needs to be heard not closed, opposed and banned.
Never have I seen a negative thing by [MOD]Andrew or has he ever closed someone's thread other than trolls. As for the others, without pointing 2 special ones, you better take off your arrogance and acting like everyone is beneath you, or else you don't deserve your MOD spot.
My message to the reasonable people in the CF Community:
Instead of just puffing your cheeks. If you feel that there are certain changes can be made, then YOU and only YOU can make the difference, every little thing can be vital, stop spending money ( Seriously ), express what you want more and more, change your signature. As long as you bow, don't expect a change.
Want a proof ? #remove_....from_theground and look what happened.
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so what are you suggesting in detail? should forumers just post their opinion about a certain mod (what is probably turn out like a witch-hunt)? or should there be a poll who is the best mod and the mod with the fewest votes gets demoted?
sry i just didnt get the idea. -
so what are you suggesting in detail? should forumers just post their opinion about a certain mod (what is probably turn out like a witch-hunt)? or should there be a poll who is the best mod and the mod with the fewest votes gets demoted?
sry i just didnt get the idea.
My basic Idea was getting the people gathered on this first, and then we can determine the method of vote.
With that being said, as a method; Each MOD can be voted by the community, ones with negative and low votes gets demoted. -
Moved to off-topic.
Can't talk for every mod of course, but usually when I actually post instead of just roaming through threads it's because I disagree with something in the thread, which in the long run might make it look like I'm always opposing the threads.
I think making MOD evaluations shouldn't be implemented for a reason (other than the obvious "make 50 accounts to burn the mods you dislike" one, which can be circumvented) and it's that regular forumers don't know about everything we do (You can't see threads/posts that we deleted, infractions/warnings we gave to other users).
Mods aren't gods either, if you've been treated in an unfair way, then you can (and you should) take it up to the mod first and then contact a GM if he's still unreasonable (of course if you're a troll who keeps posting trash on the forum and insulting people then it's not likely anyone will agree with you, because mod leniency only decreases in cases like these).
Your "message to the community" doesn't really look like you're fed up at the mods' behaviors but at the game itself to be honest.
Barracks are about what's related to the game, not the community. We've got o association with the game itself, our role is strictly forum-based.' wrote:America;4141594']LOL and look at this .. Just the typical MOD moving the thread to Off-Topic.
Hence Crossfire Barracks says "Discuss all things related to Cross Fire Here!"
As much as I wish some MODs weren't related to CF, sadly you are, you had no right moving this topic.
I don't see what's wrong with off-topic anyways, the odds people see this thread here are higher than in the ocean of barracks threads. -
Barracks are about what's related to the game, not the community. We've got o association with the game itself, our role is strictly forum-based.
I don't see what's wrong with off-topic anyways, the odds people see this thread here are higher than in the ocean of barracks threads.
Firstly, I politely request for it to return to barracks, since this is something related to CF, In an indirect way, yet related. It's what the description says.Can't talk for every mod of course, but usually when I actually post instead of just roaming through threads it's because I disagree with something in the thread, which in the long run might make it look like I'm always opposing the threads.
My problem isn't basically the opposite opinion, in fact, I learn from discussions\arguments and the opposite opinion is always important, yet I criticize the method and the arrogance.I think making MOD evaluations shouldn't be implemented for a reason (other than the obvious "make 50 accounts to burn the mods you dislike" one, which can be circumvented) and it's that regular forumers don't know about everything we do (You can't see threads/posts that we deleted, infractions/warnings we gave to other users).
It should be Implemented since we are the ones dealing with them ( The bad MODs with Horns), voting rights can be given to certain post counts accounts and with limited IP restrictions.Mods aren't gods either, if you've been treated in an unfair way, then you can (and you should) take it up to the mod first and then contact a GM if he's still unreasonable (of course if you're a troll who keeps posting trash on the forum and insulting people then it's not likely anyone will agree with you, because mod leniency only decreases in cases like these).
I know Mods aren't Gods, yet some act like they are. Also complaining to a staff member won't do anything. They can't be the judge and the opposition as well.Your "message to the community" doesn't really look like you're fed up at the mods' behaviors but at the game itself to be honest.
My message is ultimately getting our voices heard and seeing REAL changes, not words of consolation.
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And to be honest, I like discussions like this, It's constructive and respectful.
I don't feel any arrogance from you. And this is all I want and ask for. -
(removed quote, wrong post and dun matter)
We're here to moderate the forum though, not to be best pals with everyone.
I often consciously take an opposite position to point out flaws in an argument, even if I agree with the thing as a whole.
It's worth noting that while we're not here to hype Z8, we're in no position to say "oh hells yeah bro this is so fking bad go die z8" once in a while even though we might think it, which I guess you would want us to do to seem less antagonistic.
I can see that you might want us to agree more, but even if you and I are on the same page on an issue, my posting "Yes is this is excellent and I'll take it to the GMs right now" has historically been interpreted as "This will happen soon" by the.. less fluent forumers, making way for misunderstandings and disappointments.
Other than that.. I'd love to read something more specific on what you think we could change.
Obviously we're not going to dismiss moderators based on public opinion, the positions aren't filled on public opinion, they're filled on merit and dismissed according to the rules we have, or activity.
People forget that we play this game too, we're just as frustrated as you about the issues the game has, with the added frustration (which of course should be taken out on a wall or something, not on the user) of repeating the same stuff over and over again, and the tripled frustration of being expected to have certain answers, fixing problems, wanting to have the information, but not having it. -
This is INTERESTING!!
Have you tried to hear the story from these disappointed people? I guess not.has historically been interpreted as "This will happen soon" by the.. less fluent forumers, making way for misunderstandings and disappointments.
Mods aren't gods either, if you've been treated in an unfair way, then you can (and you should) take it up to the mod first and then contact a GM if he's still unreasonable (of course if you're a troll who keeps posting trash on the forum and insulting people then it's not likely anyone will agree with you, because mod leniency only decreases in cases like these).
As for this,i did contacted a GM and he said "we don't usually interfere in forum moderations is this is mainly the moderators responsibility"
So yea,MODs are gods only on z8 forums."make 50 accounts to burn the mods you dislike"
Well,that's the first thing you think about it when you see someone created multi accounts!
I have created all my accounts because i always get the immediate ban for such a stupid reasons like this post as example
Do ppl deserve infractions for input their opinions?
Such an amazing reason for an 20 points infraction& immediate ban.
#RIP_infraction_levels. -
We're here to moderate the forum though, not to be best pals with everyone.
And why not? Because you are too good for everyone ?
How about you be more friendly other than being a ... an unfriendly person.I often consciously take an opposite position to point out flaws in an argument, even if I agree with the thing as a whole.
It's worth noting that while we're not here to hype Z8, we're in no position to say "oh hells yeah bro this is so fking bad go die z8" once in a while even though we might think it, which I guess you would want us to do to seem less antagonistic.
Do I look like a person that talks like this? or have I ever addressed an issue with a style of "oh hells yeah bro this is so fking bad go die z8" ?
Never have I claimed such request from you, all I asked for was to ease down and not act like everything that's happening is perfect.Other than that.. I'd love to read something more specific on what you think we could change.
We can make a new topic with a title " What would you change in CF if you had the power to do so" and then you can roam within the hundreds of pages of suggestions from the community.Obviously we're not going to dismiss moderators based on public opinion, the positions aren't filled on public opinion, they're filled on merit and dismissed according to the rules we have, or activity.
We shall see about that, If players managed to change game graphics then heck yeah we can change the staff if we wanted to.People forget that we play this game too, we're just as frustrated as you about the issues the game has, with the added frustration (which of course should be taken out on a wall or something, not on the user) of repeating the same stuff over and over again, and the tripled frustration of being expected to have certain answers, fixing problems, wanting to have the information, but not having it.
People forget it because of the way you act, maybe your attitude reflexes the opposite ? just maybe.
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I enjoyed reading your reply. and tbh dot, I liked you .. even though you are c0cky, You're intelligent and sharp, yet you are not kind nor modest. And sometimes you totally p1ss me off. -
' wrote:America;4141621']And why not? Because you are too good for everyone ?
How about you be more friendly other than being a ... an unfriendly person.
"too good for everyone".. You're trying to apply the moderator dot to the person dot, it doesn't work like that.
I'm very humble and modest in life, but that doesn't work on a forum where I have to be clear and concise in my replies on this account, to avoid confusion.
For the same reason, I avoid an abundance of smileys and pleasantries, though once in a while I toss in a "Thank you" for good measure.
I don't do events, and keeping the above in mind, where do you think I could be happier and friendlier?
More specifically, I mean. What could I do to be more friendly, and do you think that is something I should work on - to be your friend? -
Fizzeq is the worst mod we have on this site. Anyone disagree? EDIT: Scratch that, there are a lot more people who are up for that discussion.
There is WAAAAYY too much moderation on this thread right now. This isn't 2012 anymore, Saidin is gone, there's like 14 people who use these forums frequently enough to actually be recognizable. What I'm saying is cut down the number of (active) mods along with the all inactives. WE Don't Ne3D them!
And to you power blind mods, stop closing every single would-be troll thread. The last thing we need is a lack of threads to comment on and have fun with. Yea you may be enforcing the CoC (ironically written by Saidin, WHO ISN'T HERE ANYMORE), but it just isn't in the forums best interest. We need activity, can't you see that?
I mean come on people, there are threads in the off section from over a week ago still on the first page and it's saddening. -
' wrote:SKoRM;4141644']Fizzeq is the worst mod we have on this site. Anyone disagree? EDIT: Scratch that, there are a lot more people who are up for that discussion.
There is WAAAAYY too much moderation on this thread right now. This isn't 2012 anymore, Saidin is gone, there's like 14 people who use these forums frequently enough to actually be recognizable. What I'm saying is cut down the number of (active) mods along with the all inactives. WE Don't Ne3D them!
And to you power blind mods, stop closing every single would-be troll thread. The last thing we need is a lack of threads to comment on and have fun with. Yea you may be enforcing the CoC (ironically written by Saidin, WHO ISN'T HERE ANYMORE), but it just isn't in the forums best interest. We need activity, can't you see that?
I mean come on people, there are threads in the off section from over a week ago still on the first page and it's saddening.
agree
at this point, they should almost encourage trolling. anything to get this place active. it's so dead here these days.
feels like they are counting down the clock for this game. -
"too good for everyone".. You're trying to apply the moderator dot to the person dot, it doesn't work like that.
I'm very humble and modest in life, but that doesn't work on a forum where I have to be clear and concise in my replies on this account, to avoid confusion.
For the same reason, I avoid an abundance of smileys and pleasantries, though once in a while I toss in a "Thank you" for good measure.
I don't do events, and keeping the above in mind, where do you think I could be happier and friendlier?
More specifically, I mean. What could I do to be more friendly, and do you think that is something I should work on - to be your friend?
Being professional doesn't conflict being friendly. An example Mod Andrew.
And Just a simple proof of what I am talking about.
I met you a while ago on a public E.E S&D Game, Hell I asked to add you, and your answer was " I will think about it "
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I like dot despite the countless infractions and posts of mine he's deleted. He does what he's supposed to do. I do think he can lighten up a bit though like Skorm said. The forums are dead enough as it is, can't go around closing every thread that could have the slightest possibility of being troll
Andrew gives me warnings, deletes my posts, and only gifted me ZP once even though we were boyz since his pre-moderator days so kosomak to him. Don't know/care about the rest.
made me laugh, you can't do sht by changing your signature or asking others to stop spending. The Quran pics were removed because it offends a huge population of people who are allowed to play the game. dawg' wrote:America;4141573']
Instead of just puffing your cheeks. If you feel that there are certain changes can be made, then YOU and only YOU can make the difference, every little thing can be vital, stop spending money ( Seriously ), express what you want more and more, change your signature. As long as you bow, don't expect a change. -
What..' wrote:America;4141681']Being professional doesn't conflict being friendly. An example Mod Andrew.
And Just a simple proof of what I am talking about.
I met you a while ago on a public E.E S&D Game, Hell I asked to add you, and your answer was " I will think about it "
Who answers like that ?
I don't know you, and as a slight protest for not having in-game powers, I try to avoid recognition in-game (except when I get called a cheater, and a drop "Z8 staff dude").
I take my friend lists seriously, as reflected in my forum friend list.
The slots are reserved for people I know, and people who pay me moneys. -
It has been long since I read this much in just one thread, but this one is quite interesting.
Making a thread dedicated to let the community tell their opinions about moderators would not be a bad thing if people could keep an intelligent discussion going, but that doesn't seem to be the case.' wrote:America;4141605']Firstly, I politely request for it to return to barracks, since this is something related to CF, In an indirect way, yet related. It's what the description says.
I don't really see how is this related to the game. You are talking about forum moderators. They have no power in game and the majority of them are barely playing. -
FrozenPizza wrote: »made me laugh, you can't do sht by changing your signature or asking others to stop spending. The Quran pics were removed because it offends a huge population of people who are allowed to play the game. dawg
If all people think like you, then ofc nothing will change.
It was removed because of the united rage on forums\social media, and many Turks didn't deposit money until it was removed.
You make a little move that can inspire into a bigger one, then do it instead of being negative and going "you can't do sht .. dawg"' wrote:Sake;4141719']I don't really see how is this related to the game. You are talking about forum moderators. They have no power in game and the majority of them are barely playing.
I don't know why people are failing to see the bigger picture, let's explain it in a simple example.
You .. the customer, should you fail to like the company, wouldn't that reflect to the product?
It's becoming more complicated than ever, people are getting sick with the game AND it's staff. Some chose to leave, others like myself are trying to give it one last kick. -
' wrote:America;4141899']If all people think like you, then ofc nothing will change.
It was removed because of the united rage on forums\social media, and many Turks didn't deposit money until it was removed.
You make a little move that can inspire into a bigger one, then do it instead of being negative and going "you can't do sht .. dawg"
LOL it took maybe half a week since the day it was spotted to remove. Are you telling me that z8 noticed "turks" didn't deposit ZP for about 3 days? Stop talking out of your ass. And if you wanna "make a move", go ahead and let me know how that works out for you ...dawg -
' wrote:SKoRM;4141644']Fizzeq is the worst mod we have on this site. Anyone disagree? .
+1 this is meant to be an english speaking forum ,yet the lady cant read plain ENGLISH NOR WRITE in ENGLISH.... and where did this lady pop up from >?<
TRANSULATE THIS Fizzeq tranny to your native language -
PizzaFrozen wrote: »LOL it took maybe half a week since the day it was spotted to remove. Are you telling me that z8 noticed "turks" didn't deposit ZP for about 3 days? Stop talking out of your ass. And if you wanna "make a move", go ahead and let me know how that works out for you ...dawg
^ Sadly that's the type of ppl I don't want to be involved with.
Turks and Middle eastern ppl are currently the out-most percentage of the UK Server players.
With that being said, logically you will find a huge drop of profits if the crisis continued.
I ain't making a move "dawg", I am trying to let the ppl know that they shouldn't stay put if they want the change, if they don't want to, fine, case closed. But If there is still hope, then you either share some positive Ideas, or don't waste my time. okay "dawg" ? -
' wrote:America;4141972']^ Sadly that's the type I don't want to be involved with.
Turks and Middle eastern ppl are Currently the out-most percentage of the UK Server players.
With that being said, logically you will find a huge drop of profits if the crisis continued.
I ain't making a move "dawg", I am trying to let the ppl know that they shouldn't stay put if they want the change, if they don't want to, fine, case closed. But If there is still hope, then you either share some positive Ideas, or don't waste my time. okay "dawg" ?
What crisis, egyptians threatening to stop playing was as close to the reincarnation of this game as we could get. Had the quran not been removed and Egyptians left like they said they would, it'd be a more peaceful game. This would bring more English speaking players. More profit, less hackers. But they removed the quran, probably taking into consideration that muslims who play this game not only hail from Egypt. -
Maybe this isn't in line with the current popular opinion, but I really have no problems with any of the current Mods. That doesn't mean I necessarily side with them, but I have not reason to be against them. Now, I've only really been a part of the forum discussions for a couple months now, so I can't claim any serious experience or know-how in this matter.
I'm grateful that there are people out there who have the time (and devotion) to go through and keep some order in the forums- I know I wouldn't be up for it.
As to how good of a job they do in terms of editing posts, again, I'm not sure of exactly how serious the code of conduct is supposed to followed (is it the equivalent of a speed limit or a federal law?) and I also don't know how much is open to interpretation by the Mods. Could one of you nice people take some time to explain that to me a bit better?
xYz's comment about his post being removed does seem to be an example of excessive moderating. I don't know in what context it was in (whether he had been raging about Z8 prior to that post) but on its own, it doesn't strike me as "offensive".
As to a community vote, I have mixed feelings about how effective something like this would be. As an American, I feel bound to uphold the democratic principles that shaped my country. That being said, anyone who really believes in the effectiveness of democracy is sadly misconstrued. (just my opinion)
Heres why I think this "town hall" decision making process won't work-
#1 The average community member is still a child, or a young adult. Kids, teens, and young adults are definitely not the wisest group of people out there.
#2 The average community member is unaware of the full responsibilities of a Mod, and until they are, I don't see why they should decide who is doing a good job or not (there are exceptions to this America, I'm just estimating at overall numbers)
#3 The community would never be organized enough to come to a conclusion. We already have trouble organizing tourney's in CF ^_^
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Do we care to vote which mod is most popular? even if they were ALL good ,someone would come last.I have had a couple of posts deleted myself and sure i raged for 5 minutes but after that it made me laugh.I have not got a clue who shut down my posts in the past ( only 2 or 3) but i dont even care who it was. If some mods are arrogant i dont care about that either.I guess with even half the crap they get thrown at them they would me entitled to get a bit arrogant sometimes. Does it affect my game? NO.I could spend hours complaining about what gets my goat but this is not one of them. i think the game and the forum are dead/dying and i do not see many replies here.Although i would like to see some more mods at least reply to your post just to show they acknowledge what you say.That would be fair at least, as you are asking a direct question relating to mods.
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Now, I've only really been a part of the forum discussions for a couple months now, so I can't claim any serious experience or know-how in this matter.
Heres why I think this "town hall" decision making process won't work-
#1 The average community member is still a child, or a young adult. Kids, teens, and young adults are definitely not the wisest group of people out there.
#2 The average community member is unaware of the full responsibilities of a Mod, and until they are, I don't see why they should decide who is doing a good job or not (there are exceptions to this America, I'm just estimating at overall numbers)
#3 The community would never be organized enough to come to a conclusion. We already have trouble organizing tourney's in CF ^_^
For you being here for only a few months yet, your statements are suprisingly true.Although i would like to see some more mods at least reply to your post just to show they acknowledge what you say.That would be fair at least, as you are asking a direct question relating to mods.
The main role of moderators, as bad as it sounds, is to close threads, delete posts and to hand out bans and infractions. That being said it really would be nice if we saw more posts from them, but them keeping quiet doesn't mean they don't read your posts.
They are using their free time to attend to these duties, so whether they choose to answer or not is entirely up to them.
I understand your frustration, but do you expect them writing one-word replies like 'Seen.', 'Recorded.', 'Noticed.'? Because more shouldn't be required. -
Do we care to vote which mod is most popular? even if they were ALL good ,someone would come last.
This is not how it works.
You take each individual and evaluate him. For e.g.
MOD X gets 70% vote = passes and accepted by the community.
MOD Y gets 55% = passes but needs restrictions or a close eye on him.
MOD Z gets 30% = Losses his Mod spot.Now, I've only really been a part of the forum discussions for a couple months now, so I can't claim any serious experience or know-how in this matter.
I guess you didn't bump into their other side yet. It will happen sooner or later.
The Summary of this thread is as follows :
As a first step, You all gathered can make your voices reach the upper staff regardless of the topic.
For me, I am sick and tired of the unlimited forum powers given to certain Mods without proper supervision.
You give someone some authority and they think they can do whatever they want. Happens in everything around us.
The GMs have to give us the chance to vote for each current individual MOD and the one who's vote is down, goes down!
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' wrote:America;4142006']This is not how it works.
You take each individual and evaluate him. For e.g.
MOD X gets 70% vote = passes and accepted by the community.
MOD Y gets 55% = passes but needs restrictions or a close eye on him.
MOD Z gets 30% = Losses his Mod spot.
I'm curious..
Take the fictional moderator Abe who hasn't been active for a few weeks, enough to make him pretty much unknown to a majority of active forum users today.
He won't get many disapproval votes, or he will get a lot of approval votes, because he haven't had time to grind someones gears.
Take someone like me up against Abe, let's say I'm a friendly guy - just active. Removing bad posts, editing insults, adding infractions.
Obviously I'd get the more disapproval votes, or less approval votes, even if I wouldn't be a bad person, I had just done what I'm paid to do and it bothers people.
How would this scenario be fair, to you?
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PizzaFrozen wrote: »But they removed the quran, probably taking into consideration that muslims who play this game not only hail from Egypt.
This thread started very well and it's annoying to see such conversation in here.' wrote:America;4141899']
It was removed because of the united rage on forums\social media, and many Turks didn't deposit money until it was removed.
Let me quote juicebox reply to the topic that you're talking about here
SO pleas cut the crap and focus on the evaluation because i think this thread is not getting the attention it deserves.More opinions would be nice,specially the opinion of someone has the MOD tag in his name would definitely appreciated.Z8Games does not tolerate the abuse of any religion, or religious group, and any such actions or portrayals will be dealt with in the same manner. We will resolve the matter as soon as possible as it is a matter of high priority, and we ask for your patience in the matter. -
Haha i know what you are saying.Give someone a bunch of keys and they think they are mega important and own the town.I still dont like this vote system where a mod gets kicked just like that.I think if anything your 2nd choice would be fairer. MOD Y where you say if they only get 55% of the vote = pass but keep eye on them.At least give them a chance to improve before kicking them. I reckon their are plenty of less well known mods just doing what they do in the background who might not get enough votes just because no one saw them do anything useful. I have seen in the past some mods being corrected by other mods.Is it really as bad as you think to want to do this? I never noticed it really, but then i am not on forums that much lately.Havent read anything interesting in ages.Posts do not seem get many replies anymore so you go for it.
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ComeAtMeFizz wrote: »This thread started very well and it's annoying to see such conversation in here.
Let me quote juicebox reply to the topic that you're talking about here
SO pleas cut the crap and focus on the evaluation because i think this thread is not getting the attention it deserves.More opinions would be nice,specially the opinion of someone has the MOD tag in his name would definitely appreciated.
Sorry for confusing your highness, as I was only explaining and answering another individual, however I shall not go more off topic.
And if you want more opinions, then help share the idea. I would love any sort of help.I'm curious..
Take the fictional moderator Abe who hasn't been active for a few weeks, enough to make him pretty much unknown to a majority of active forum users today.
He won't get many disapproval votes, or he will get a lot of approval votes, because he haven't had time to grind someones gears.
Take someone like me up against Abe, let's say I'm a friendly guy - just active. Removing bad posts, editing insults, adding infractions.
Obviously I'd get the more disapproval votes, or less approval votes, even if I wouldn't be a bad person, I had just done what I'm paid to do and it bothers people.
How would this scenario be fair, to you?
It's pretty obvious who the more effective moderator is, but by doing the job you're automatically alienating certain people who disapprove of the rules and are forced to comply with them.
Then we get to choose specific MODs whom we feel damaged by, then the elections start.
For more illustration; You ask the community first to point out the most MODs they want to criticize, and if found much gathering on him, he faces the vote.
And I have not complained from you on closing threads and deleting comments, as far as you doing your job, you are pretty decent. Just need a little bit of tolerance and honesty ..What..
I don't know you
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Then we get to choose specific MODs whom we feel damaged by, then the elections start.
For more illustration; You ask the community first to point out the most MODs they want to criticize, and if found much gathering on him, he faces the vote.
Yeah.. but my scenario still stands though..
You're singling out moderators who are ACTIVE but not necessarily BAD, simply because they're enforcing the rules we're paid to enforce in a way that displeases YOU.
I apologize for the awful analogy but I'm in a hurry - it's like asking criminals to vote for who should still be a cop. Obviously they're gonna vote out the active officers who keep them from breaking the law, not the people who manage the lost and found box behind the counter..
As I said, I don't know you. Surely it's not the first time you've seen "'MURICA!" after someone saying America. I try to be friendly in-game - as much as my patience can take.. "give zp plz" and "fix game omg" gets old reaaal fast. Block function
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' wrote:Sake;4142014']Also worth to mention that usually people who have problems with moderators are those who don't follow the rules of the forum. They break the rules, get infracted/banned then they make new accounts just to do the same all over again.
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