no smoke glitch
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Ellustrial wrote: »Yes
If something is not banned, then it is tournament legal. You should read this book.
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Since you're Wizdumb, and I highly doubt your motivation to read anything in a book, here's the direct quote for you:
Reid your last name starts with J? -
Ellustrial wrote: »Yes
If something is not banned, then it is tournament legal. You should read this book.
Edit:
Since you're Wizdumb, and I highly doubt your motivation to read anything in a book, here's the direct quote for you:
Do you take notes from Fnatic?
There is a thing called common sense. -
Do you take notes from Fnatic?
There is a thing called common sense.
Why are you comparing to the fnatic situation when they're completely different? Reids talking about things that aren't banned by leagues, whereas fnatic did something that was against the rules -
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if you go by rules, it was
NoDo you take notes from Fnatic?
There is a thing called common sense.
The difference is that there was already a rule in place saying "Do not ____, and do not ____."
Had that rule not been in place, their boost would have been legal.
Since that rule was in place, their boost was not legal.
Make sense?
I'm going to recommend you read that book, too. www.Sirlin.net/ptw -
Ellustrial wrote: »No
The difference is that there was already a rule in place saying "Do not ____, and do not ____."
Had that rule not been in place, their boost would have been legal.
Since that rule was in place, their boost was not legal.
Make sense?
I'm going to recommend you read that book, too. www.Sirlin.net/ptw
pixel walking wasn't in the rules for majors, so no thanks -
pixel walking wasn't in the rules for majors, so no thanks
1. Did I mention pixel-walking?
2. Now that you mention pixel-walking, yes, pixel-walking was illegal in DreamHack.
3. Fnatic's boost was overturned not because of pixel-walking, but because of one-way textures. There were textures in which you could see through, but not be seen back.
Maybe you should read not only that book, but in general as well. -
Ellustrial wrote: »1. Did I mention pixel-walking?
2. Now that you mention pixel-walking, yes, pixel-walking was illegal in DreamHack.
3. Fnatic's boost was overturned not because of pixel-walking, but because of one-way textures. There were textures in which you could see through, but not be seen back.
Maybe you should read not only that book, but in general as well.
pixel walking was legal -
pixel walking was legalDreamhack Director wrote:Pixelwalking isn't allowed in Dreamhack summer but is allowed in Dreamhack winter
My bad on point 2, outdated ruleset. But, the other two hold. The point of the matter is that it broke a tournament rule. -
Edit:He is obviously second guessing what he is doing or wants to do. If there wasn't nothing illegal about an action then he shouldn't feel any guilt or second guess himself.
Just saw this JPurvis gem. I am clarifying my argument in an attempt to better other people's understanding of how competition works. Even if I were capable of guilt, I fail to see how anything I've written implies it.I'm not sure the principle of law (Everything that isn't written in law as illegal is legal) is wholly applicable where something like sportsmanship is so highly valued.
It's an interesting discussion for sure.
No, it isn't.
Sportsmanship takes place in your "good games", in how you congratulate your opponent on something well-discovered or well-played. In how you conduct your attitude mid-game, and afterward. Sportsmanship has nothing to do with the way you play the game, if you are playing to win (in fact, I would argue playing worse than you possibly could play displays worse sportsmanship than crushing your opponent with "unfair" tactics).
When a Chess player uses computer analysis in the world championship to discover a sneaky move, is that a "dirty play"? No, of course not. He is simply better prepared.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oPQbUVWdAQ
Look at the 5th game of this. Starcraft 2 Grand Finals. When he countered the liftoff with an early fleet beacon > tempest play, is that a dirty play? People were complaining for months on the ladder about how OP lifting off vs Protoss was. Is he obligated to share with the community "this is how you deal with this tactic"?
Of course not. He kept this counter to himself, and nobody accused him of "bad sportsmanship".
Unless something breaks the rules, feel free to push their boundaries. Anyone who acts like this isn't true is simply limiting themselves. -
Ellustrial wrote: »Edit:
Just saw this JPurvis gem. I am clarifying my argument in an attempt to better other people's understanding of how competition works. Even if I were capable of guilt, I fail to see how anything I've written implies it.
No, it isn't.
Sportsmanship takes place in your "good games", in how you congratulate your opponent on something well-discovered or well-played. In how you conduct your attitude mid-game, and afterward. Sportsmanship has nothing to do with the way you play the game, if you are playing to win (in fact, I would argue playing worse than you possibly could play displays worse sportsmanship than crushing your opponent with "unfair" tactics).
When a Chess player uses computer analysis in the world championship to discover a sneaky move, is that a "dirty play"? No, of course not. He is simply better prepared.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oPQbUVWdAQ
Look at the 5th game of this. Starcraft 2 Grand Finals. When he countered the liftoff with an early fleet beacon > tempest play, is that a dirty play? People were complaining for months on the ladder about how OP lifting off vs Protoss was. Is he obligated to share with the community "this is how you deal with this tactic"?
Of course not. He kept this counter to himself, and nobody accused him of "bad sportsmanship".
Unless something breaks the rules, feel free to push their boundaries. Anyone who acts like this isn't true is simply limiting themselves.
You're not supposed to see through smoke. You're breaking the game by doing so. Are you dumb? -
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I'm still waiting for a description, Polleus might have gotten a report and forwarded it to GMs already though.Is this ****ing glitch to be fixed yet? Some ****ing team of mexicans was consistently 1 tapping me through smoke long every round now without me shooting or hardly peeking. -
Oh so **** sakes, Head still hasn't reported it? He's just testing it out..
with friends.
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Last 2 days of scrimming have been so weird.
Every br/columbian/mexican team's been smoking the **** out of maps and instantly headshotting you threw it. It got out to so many people and yet z8 doesn't know about it? They shoot through smoke better than fam0us does -
I actually read through the whole thread and no where is explained how the "see through smoke" works.
Any bug exploiting is a violation of our Terms of Use.
Please report any bug exploit with description, screenshots, and any other useful information to the support team and the QA team will try to reproduce it and report it to the developer team.
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People are too busy having fun with it and would rather keep using it than reporting it. It happened to me randomly where a player on my team was referring to a smoke in which I wasn't seeing; not sure if my experience that time has anything to do with how they do it as it wasn't intentional.
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Oh so **** sakes, Head still hasn't reported it? He's just testing it out..
with friends.
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Last 2 days of scrimming have been so weird.
Every br/columbian/mexican team's been smoking the **** out of maps and instantly headshotting you threw it. It got out to so many people and yet z8 doesn't know about it? They shoot through smoke better than fam0us does
Paranoia strikes deep
you act like you havent seen it be done. People shoot through smoke all the time. -
People are too busy having fun with it and would rather keep using it than reporting it. It happened to me randomly where a player on my team was referring to a smoke in which I wasn't seeing; not sure if my experience that time has anything to do with how they do it as it wasn't intentional.
They referred to a smoke that you're not seeing that means its a nade split that is indeed accidental
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