Any tips for new teams?

imEXQUISITEE

Some of you may know me, some of you may not, that doesn't matter here.

A couple friends and I have decided to make a team and have been practicing and scrimming daily. We've played a couple teams here and there and asked a few to give us tips, some of them obliged and actually gave us tips to help improve! That being said, this community isn't as awful and trollzy as people believe it to be. ( I know some trolls will respond to this, but save your little fingers the typing scrutiny, cause I won't respond to you. )


That being said, is there any tips out there for new teams starting or becoming competitive?

If so, give us some opinions and some actual tips to help people improve?


Think about it, community is slowly dying, and I don't care if it's "Revived" or not. Point being, Need some help. would the like the community to help me. That is all.

nfdndxnfdxch

Im not a competitive player but ive noticed alot in competitive scene since i watched most scrims youtube twitch cfs etc.
Improving as a team
Calling accurate calls ,and calling everything you see and heard
Possitioning yourself and holding angles very good
Good nade and smoke play in every map
Doesnt change roster 24/7,teams that stays longer builds chemistry i believe
Great gamesense
Pointing out each players wrong move including yourself be ready to get criticized
Practicing every map often ,practicing against good teams
Be a team player
Great shot and land your shot
Saying great shot or goodjob to each other to boost confidence
Thats just some of the things i noticed,sorry im not a competitive player to give you perfect tips.

hammer_mav

Hey, nice to see that you're making a team. To start off, you guys should choose 1 of the 5 main maps (Blackwidow, Port, Mexico, Sub Base, Ankara) and then you should make a GR setup. The setup can vary, but id suggest looking at how other teams setup. Then, on BL side you guys should try to have try and work in groups to clear out parts of the map to make it easier to approach bomb sites and then actually commit to taking the site. One thing that I wouldn't suggest is sitting in BL spawn and not actively trying to do something. A lot of teams tend to sit in spawn and it ends up hurting them when the other team doesn't give up picks. Teams also can't develop their chemistry that way.

There's obviously more information to give, but I think that the best way to absorb it would be to watch videos of good teams and try to follow in their footsteps.

I can't link any videos atm but you can search for Crossfire Stars matches since most of the best teams have some matches there.

Also, don't give up if you guys can't keep up at first. As long as you keep at it, you will improve.

[MOD]Zzxq

After playing competitive for so long here is what I would recommend.

Step 1: Build a roster that emulates your goals. Be on the same page in terms of commitment, dedication, attitude. Once you have 5 players with the same views on these you are past the hardest step.

Step 2: Drill basics until solid. Shots need to be practiced individually to be maintained so I would emphasize that as well. Make sure you have simple things drilled in your mind so you eliminate "beginner" mistakes from happening. Make sure your shots are on point as much as possible. Drill basic set ups for every map (Both sides no just GR) Make sure your team all has common calls for spots that need them and everyone knows what they are for your team. Best way to do that is walk through each map as a team and say this will be called "blank" for each spot the you want / need a call for. After that drill common calls and basics in scrims for a few weeks til they become solid and are able to be second hand without thinking.

Note: For step 2 to be truly helpful set a solid practice schedule at this point in time that everyone can commit too. obviously people will have to miss a few here and there but you want to have all players present as much as you can for effective drilling.

Step 3: Improvements / Advanced practice. Once you have drilled basics into your team, you can then start to develop your own unique play style as a team and work on further developing your teams weaknesses. The first thing I would do before adding new plays is go over some scrim replays of your drilling period scrims and look at which strats were useful and which were not. That way you get a feel for what kind of strats work well for your team. Then after Identifying weak play identify WHY they were weak and either tweak them to account for mistakes or remove them as a strat. To improve and develop is the next part. What you need to do here is figure out things to counter play common use strats or create a unique presence using your teams strengths. Some examples of these are: Boost spots, Identifying key nade points and exploiting them for rounds, creating aggressive presence without sacrificing fundamental basics. Things like this can really help your team bring more to the table against experienced teams.

Step 4: Continuous dedication to improve and commit as a team.
The number one reason teams break up is because they have players who are either A (Not willing to admit they can improve) or B (Can't commit to the team or have to much of an ego to be a team player) These are issues that can tear apart top level teams no matter how good they may be. So make sure you have a 5 that's always committed and wanting to improve together otherwise your team is wasting its potential. The best way to keep improving is study your own mistakes like its your job. I improved the most when I would watch replays and wrote down round for round what I did right and what I did wrong. Doing this helps you identify individual mistakes and strengths. Its also a strong tool to use bc if you write your mistakes you can notice patterns where you make mistakes multiple times, and those are the mistakes you should focus on correcting.

Step 5: Have fun. If you aren't having fun in doing all of this, the competition means nothing. You have to be wanting to improve and also enjoy doing so. If you don't enjoy the game, don't try to compete in it or you are just wasting your time as well as your teams. So in all of this always try to make sure there is no tension or feelings of remorse to players for wanting to practice. You all need to enjoy playing the game and have a similar goal of improving together and if you can do that, your goals are easily attainable.

Best of luck man, hope this helps you get on the right track as a team.

trvplxrd

Zzxq wrote: »

After playing competitive for so long here is what I would recommend.

Step 1: Build a roster that emulates your goals. Be on the same page in terms of commitment, dedication, attitude. Once you have 5 players with the same views on these you are past the hardest step.

Step 2: Drill basics until solid. Shots need to be practiced individually to be maintained so I would emphasize that as well. Make sure you have simple things drilled in your mind so you eliminate "beginner" mistakes from happening. Make sure your shots are on point as much as possible. Drill basic set ups for every map (Both sides no just GR) Make sure your team all has common calls for spots that need them and everyone knows what they are for your team. Best way to do that is walk through each map as a team and say this will be called "blank" for each spot the you want / need a call for. After that drill common calls and basics in scrims for a few weeks til they become solid and are able to be second hand without thinking.

Note: For step 2 to be truly helpful set a solid practice schedule at this point in time that everyone can commit too. obviously people will have to miss a few here and there but you want to have all players present as much as you can for effective drilling.

Step 3: Improvements / Advanced practice. Once you have drilled basics into your team, you can then start to develop your own unique play style as a team and work on further developing your teams weaknesses. The first thing I would do before adding new plays is go over some scrim replays of your drilling period scrims and look at which strats were useful and which were not. That way you get a feel for what kind of strats work well for your team. Then after Identifying weak play identify WHY they were weak and either tweak them to account for mistakes or remove them as a strat. To improve and develop is the next part. What you need to do here is figure out things to counter play common use strats or create a unique presence using your teams strengths. Some examples of these are: Boost spots, Identifying key nade points and exploiting them for rounds, creating aggressive presence without sacrificing fundamental basics. Things like this can really help your team bring more to the table against experienced teams.

Step 4: Continuous dedication to improve and commit as a team.
The number one reason teams break up is because they have players who are either A (Not willing to admit they can improve) or B (Can't commit to the team or have to much of an ego to be a team player) These are issues that can tear apart top level teams no matter how good they may be. So make sure you have a 5 that's always committed and wanting to improve together otherwise your team is wasting its potential. The best way to keep improving is study your own mistakes like its your job. I improved the most when I would watch replays and wrote down round for round what I did right and what I did wrong. Doing this helps you identify individual mistakes and strengths. Its also a strong tool to use bc if you write your mistakes you can notice patterns where you make mistakes multiple times, and those are the mistakes you should focus on correcting.

Step 5: Have fun. If you aren't having fun in doing all of this, the competition means nothing. You have to be wanting to improve and also enjoy doing so. If you don't enjoy the game, don't try to compete in it or you are just wasting your time as well as your teams. So in all of this always try to make sure there is no tension or feelings of remorse to players for wanting to practice. You all need to enjoy playing the game and have a similar goal of improving together and if you can do that, your goals are easily attainable.

Best of luck man, hope this helps you get on the right track as a team.

Could you unban me on esl ples????

[MOD]Zzxq

trvplxrd wrote: »

Could you unban me on esl ples????

Sure. just send me a profile link

Hylios

hammer_mav wrote: »

Hey, nice to see that you're making a team. To start off, you guys should choose 1 of the 5 main maps (Blackwidow, Port, Mexico, Sub Base, Ankara) and then you should make a GR setup. The setup can vary, but id suggest looking at how other teams setup. Then, on BL side you guys should try to have try and work in groups to clear out parts of the map to make it easier to approach bomb sites and then actually commit to taking the site. One thing that I wouldn't suggest is sitting in BL spawn and not actively trying to do something. A lot of teams tend to sit in spawn and it ends up hurting them when the other team doesn't give up picks. Teams also can't develop their chemistry that way.

There's obviously more information to give, but I think that the best way to absorb it would be to watch videos of good teams and try to follow in their footsteps.

I can't link any videos atm but you can search for Crossfire Stars matches since most of the best teams have some matches there.

Also, don't give up if you guys can't keep up at first. As long as you keep at it, you will improve.

^ this guy has always been helpful take his advice believe me it is worth it.

trvplxrd

Zzxq wrote: »

Sure. just send me a profile link

http://www.nationalesl.com/us/crossfire/5on5/go4_final1/player/4371241/

imEXQUISITEE

I'm going to take in all suggestions and I thank you maveloff, ZZXQ, and also nfd, we will work hard to improve as a team.

I will link this topic to my team so they also have an understanding as to what is being suggested.

I'm in no way an actual leader of the team, i'm more of a support role leader which basically means I watch and help my team improve, and actually build moral with "Speeches" that gets them in the right mindset.


I do appreciate all suggestions / tips / opinions to help a new team improve!

Thank you kindly!

nfdndxnfdxch

imEXQUISITEE wrote: »

I'm going to take in all suggestions and I thank you maveloff, ZZXQ, and also nfd, we will work hard to improve as a team.

I will link this topic to my team so they also have an understanding as to what is being suggested.

I'm in no way an actual leader of the team, i'm more of a support role leader which basically means I watch and help my team improve, and actually build moral with "Speeches" that gets them in the right mindset.


I do appreciate all suggestions / tips / opinions to help a new team improve!

Thank you kindly!

Hope to see your team at the top

imEXQUISITEE

nfdndxnfdxch wrote: »

Hope to see your team at the top

One day hopefully we will be a top contender

Thank you kindly for the words of wisdom and the support.. It's much appreciated.

And although you're not a "competitive" player, you have a chance to be

GL to your future endeavors as well!

doop51

Pay malte for his lessons

Independentl

imEXQUISITEE wrote: »

Think about it, competitive community is slowly dying, and I don't care if it's "Revived" or not. Point being, Need some help. would the like the competitive community to help me. That is all.

there ya go.

Throne_LK

Try to practice 1 map first, BW would be a good map to start with for new teams

Communication,try to communicate as much as possible during scriming.

Get on time,should have a schedule dont need to be 7 days a week but at least 2-3 days a week?