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Just thought I would stop by the forums today and see this. I remember that day, the clans we faced had numerous hackers and we just returned the favor. One might hack in clan wars, but doesn't meant they hack in competitive play. That's an alt account btw.
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Just thought I would stop by the forums today and see this. I remember that day, the clans we faced had numerous hackers and we just returned the favor. One might hack in clan wars, but doesn't meant they hack in competitive play. That's an alt account btw.
So me cross dressing and hanging out at bars once in a while doesn't reflect who I really am? -
Speak_Truth wrote: »The previous thread was titled improperly.
Proof That Bravo 5/Allstars cheat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjkuYcJXEaA
So, wizdumb, who is cheating in that video?
HotNess?
head?
phd nine?
ownzZz?
Xizt?
Bhavya?
Glide?
those are the 7 that are playing, and none of those played in ESG/ESL with Allstars
sucks2beyou -
So me cross dressing and hanging out at bars once in a while doesn't reflect who I really am?
So you are saying that cheating in a clan war is proof of cheating in matches? If so, then let it be your personal belief.
A mod understands the situation.[MOD]Polleus wrote: »I'm sure 50% or more of the competitive community have cheated outside of competitive matches. Doesn't mean they have or do in competitive matches. That's just making assumptions.
Thank you.Who cares if some random players were cheating in a clan war? The only player i notice from allstars is hotness, and i don't think that hotness is a cheater.
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So you are saying that cheating in a clan war is proof of cheating in matches? If so, then let it be your personal belief.
A mod understands the situation.
Thank you.
Just shows that you're willing to take calls from cheaters and consider it funny. I consider anyone who plays with cheaters and takes calls cheating, especially if is considered a laughing matter.
Also, Konrad admits to being able to bypass ESG client yet you take no action against his team. Jake (visualized) also told me that Konrad cheated during one of their matches and the team just let it happen. Why doesn't ESG investigate? I sent two support tickets about players cheating against us in ESG matches. One was against NickDz from Beta Five, the other was agasint Miguel from sgs?. ESG Mike said Miguel was clean, but never responded to my Beta Five support ticket. Also, i'm pretty sure all he did was check an anti-cheat log. Do the admins actually watch replays? Suppose a player knew how to bypass the anticheat, and was blatantly walling and aimbotting during the match. Just because the admin sees them on anti-cheat means they must be clean... even when the replay shows them blatantly cheating.
Why do people act like cheating off client is fine? -
Konrad was there, too. And that video shows that he thinks cheating is funny, as well as the other 6 people there.Who cares if some random players were cheating in a clan war? The only player i notice from allstars is hotness, and i don't think that hotness is a cheater.
What does this have to do with ESG... -
Just thought I would stop by the forums today and see this. I remember that day, the clans we faced had numerous hackers and we just returned the favor. One might hack in clan wars, but doesn't meant they hack in competitive play. That's an alt account btw.
Oh you all returned the favor? Do you have proof they were cheating? Proof? No proof? Proof? Oh -
Snoopy1995 wrote: »Just shows that you're willing to take calls from cheaters and consider it funny. I consider anyone who plays with cheaters and takes calls cheating, especially if is considered a laughing matter.
Also, Konrad admits to being able to bypass ESG client yet you take no action against his team. Jake (visualized) also told me that Konrad cheated during one of their matches and the team just let it happen. Why doesn't ESG investigate? I sent two support tickets about players cheating against us in ESG matches. One was against NickDz from Beta Five, the other was agasint Miguel from sgs?. ESG Mike said Miguel was clean, but never responded to my Beta Five support ticket. Also, i'm pretty sure all he did was check an anti-cheat log. Do the admins actually watch replays? Suppose a player knew how to bypass the anticheat, and was blatantly walling and aimbotting during the match. Just because the admin sees them on anti-cheat means they must be clean... even when the replay shows them blatantly cheating.
Why do people act like cheating off client is fine?
All I'm going to say is this:
I recently joined a pub clan on an alt. Within 3 days, the account was banned. The leader of the clan is a mod, and had "100% frame by frame replay proof" I was aimbotting.
The point I'm making is that you can't easily tell if someone is cheating via a replay. Your perception of the player colors how you view the evidence.
That said, I no longer pub on echo 8. Certain players blatantly cheat. Funny how xTrap patches and everyone is trash for about 3 days. -
The way I look at it, cheaters are cheaters and who is to say they aren't or haven't cheated in ESL OR ESG. There is no Grey area when it comes to cheating it's you either cheat or you don't. It's not like, "oh I only cheat in pub clans and would never cheat in a scrim or match". Who is to say? If you have cheats on your computer you are a cheater. Is that hard to understand? And just because you don't recognize anyone by their ign does not mean they aren't the same players in the AllStars. I mean there were some alt accounts in that video.
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Snoopy1995 wrote: »Just shows that you're willing to take calls from cheaters and consider it funny. I consider anyone who plays with cheaters and takes calls cheating, especially if is considered a laughing matter.
Also, Konrad admits to being able to bypass ESG client yet you take no action against his team. Jake (visualized) also told me that Konrad cheated during one of their matches and the team just let it happen. Why doesn't ESG investigate? I sent two support tickets about players cheating against us in ESG matches. One was against NickDz from Beta Five, the other was agasint Miguel from sgs?. ESG Mike said Miguel was clean, but never responded to my Beta Five support ticket. Also, i'm pretty sure all he did was check an anti-cheat log. Do the admins actually watch replays? Suppose a player knew how to bypass the anticheat, and was blatantly walling and aimbotting during the match. Just because the admin sees them on anti-cheat means they must be clean... even when the replay shows them blatantly cheating.
Why do people act like cheating off client is fine?
l0l watch replays
you're a funny man -
Speak_Truth wrote: »The way I look at it, cheaters are cheaters and who is to say they aren't or haven't cheated in ESL OR ESG. There is no Grey area when it comes to cheating it's you either cheat or you don't. It's not like, "oh I only cheat in pub clans and would never cheat in a scrim or match". Who is to say? If you have cheats on your computer you are a cheater. Is that hard to understand? And just because you don't recognize anyone by their ign does not mean they aren't the same players in the AllStars. I mean there were some alt accounts in that video.
you care to much -
So you are saying that cheating in a clan war is proof of cheating in matches? If so, then let it be your personal belief.
A mod understands the situation.
Thank you.
No what I am saying is I like to wear women's clothing and hang out at bars so I can get eye ****ed by guys across the room. -
Ellustrial wrote: »All I'm going to say is this:
I recently joined a pub clan on an alt. Within 3 days, the account was banned. The leader of the clan is a mod, and had "100% frame by frame replay proof" I was aimbotting.
The point I'm making is that you can't easily tell if someone is cheating via a replay. Your perception of the player colors how you view the evidence.
That said, I no longer pub on echo 8. Certain players blatantly cheat. Funny how xTrap patches and everyone is trash for about 3 days.
Unlike the pub leader, I know how to decypher if someone is cheating. Reck and I have watched hundreds of replays to determine whether or not players cheat, get lucky, or play dumb. This is why we sent in a support ticket for NickDz from Beta Five, because either he was playing extremely dumb or he was cheating. The same goes for Miguel from your team. If you want to watch the replay you will see his positioning and peek timings are really fishy, which is why we disputed him. Then there's Konrad. He cheated on alts and he lied about who he was to me. After doing a background check, I found that he has posted asking to buy Vip cheats from cheating websites and he also has claimed to be able to bypass ESG client. Not to mention that his teammate who played matches with him told me that he cheated in a match. -
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Snoopy1995 wrote: »You probably don't watch replays. Remember when you tried to bust ace gaming for ghosting and you knew that they did but nobody believed you without proof? Yeah I'm in the same predicament.
Why would i ever watch a replay? Sure lets ban people off replays even if their AC is clean!!
No1 believed me?
you srs? -
Snoopy1995 wrote: »Just shows that you're willing to take calls from cheaters and consider it funny. I consider anyone who plays with cheaters and takes calls cheating, especially if is considered a laughing matter.
Also, Konrad admits to being able to bypass ESG client yet you take no action against his team. Jake (visualized) also told me that Konrad cheated during one of their matches and the team just let it happen. Why doesn't ESG investigate? I sent two support tickets about players cheating against us in ESG matches. One was against NickDz from Beta Five, the other was agasint Miguel from sgs?. ESG Mike said Miguel was clean, but never responded to my Beta Five support ticket. Also, i'm pretty sure all he did was check an anti-cheat log. Do the admins actually watch replays? Suppose a player knew how to bypass the anticheat, and was blatantly walling and aimbotting during the match. Just because the admin sees them on anti-cheat means they must be clean... even when the replay shows them blatantly cheating.
Why do people act like cheating off client is fine?
Because it isn't ESG's job to worry about people cheating off client. I know how to bypass ESL Wire, does that mean ESL should ban me? -
Snoopy1995 wrote: »Konrad cheated for ALLSTARS during a match.
Congrats to vKonrad on bypassing the ESG client then. I'm not in the business of banning people without proof. Him saying he knows how is not proof, and the fact that he didn't say that he did when you asked multiple times shows that he is not about to come up and give me a full confession. I'd rather him cheat and get away with it until I can catch him than start banning people based on public perception. Because then innocent people can get caught up and banned. -
also what about the people CLEARLY using shadows the entire tournament? Or are you really going to only dq them for matches played in playoffs? Are you guys really this shallow honestly?
edit: Shadows allow people to see people before coming around corners in this game. -
Congrats to vKonrad on bypassing the ESG client then. I'm not in the business of banning people without proof. Him saying he knows how is not proof, and the fact that he didn't say that he did when you asked multiple times shows that he is not about to come up and give me a full confession. I'd rather him cheat and get away with it until I can catch him than start banning people based on public perception. Because then innocent people can get caught up and banned.
Thank you.
I've got to hand it to you, over the past couple couple of weeks you've actually improved the image of ESG and how you guys deal with the community.
Props
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