Review by an Ex-GM

“No longer worth even considering ”


Former Employee - Senior Associate Producer in Toronto, ON (Canada)
I worked at Smilegate West full-time for more than 5 years

Pros
Your fellow employees there can be great at times and do their best to make you feel at home.
Cons
Here is a small list but not all the cons.

- Management never listens to their employees.
- Lack of any teamwork, mostly due to company structure and team setup.
- No future for non-Koreans.
- Constant fear of being fired, very high turn around rate.
- Probation periods that can last well over a year.
- Constant reports, including hourly reports. Takes time away from any real work.
- No proper distribution of work. Some employees end up with no work and play games all day or on Facebook. Others left with doing the work of 2 out 3 people.
- Salaries that are far below industry standard.
- More time spent trying to prove you did work then any actual work being done. They reward looking like you are busy really accomplishing anything.
- Horrible responses time to problem or new projects with constant delays by all departments. Over planning to the point of procrastination.
- Lack of any real leadership in the company with just finger pointing when things go wrong.
- the list just continues on and on.
Advice to Management
Complete company restructuring needed. Return the company to what it used to be. They took a good company and beat it into the ground.
Doesn't Recommend
Negative Outlook
Disapproves of CEO

Source: http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Smilegate-West-Reviews-E744473.htm

Rip unsaid GM, you will be missed.

Comments

  • So pathetic. I wonder who'll delete this thread this time!

    Please, MODs, if you're going to defend the company, then please don't bother posting.

    Frogie: I can't drive and type...kk!
  • It is worth noting that anyone can write a review, and most reviews mirror the complaints brought forth by the first review.
    Not to say all of them are false, but at least one is.
  • [MOD]dot wrote: »
    It is worth noting that anyone can write a review, and most reviews mirror the complaints brought forth by the first review.
    Not to say all of them are false, but at least one is.

    As true as that is mr dot, the thing you have to consider is who in the threads works for smilegate? Who has the time or insight to know these things but not work there? While they do mirror it, this latest review is much more in detail then any of the others, thus im assuming it is by another person. They took time to write this, they didn't just rage-type.
  • [MOD]dot wrote: »
    It is worth noting that anyone can write a review, and most reviews mirror the complaints brought forth by the first review.
    Not to say all of them are false, but at least one is.

    I actually love that you didn't close it, thanks!

    Assuming this one is false, what has the game provided/did to prove the opposite?
  • [MOD]dot wrote: »
    It is worth noting that anyone can write a review, and most reviews mirror the complaints brought forth by the first review.
    Not to say all of them are false, but at least one is.

    Tis a good point , as the others have said who would be that disatisfied with the company ? The English levels between the posts would suggest multiple reviewers . As everything on he net just because Google found it doesn't mean it's true... Still makes you wonder though.
  • MoeDeta wrote: »
    I actually love that you didn't close it, thanks!

    Assuming this one is false, what has the game provided/did to prove the opposite?
    I'm not sure what you think they should prove/disprove to you..?

    EVERY company in the world have disgruntled former employees.
    I suppose the fact that people still work there, that they hire new people who wants to work there, is proof enough that the opinion of a few people aren't universal facts set in stone.
  • [MOD]dot wrote: »
    I'm not sure what you think they should prove/disprove to you..?

    EVERY company in the world have disgruntled former employees.
    I suppose the fact that people still work there, that they hire new people who wants to work there, is proof enough that the opinion of a few people aren't universal facts set in stone.

    I'll use "you" as "the whole community" then.

    I'm not saying that because Saidin left, the company must be falling. I'm saying that the CONs listed in that review, what has proved it wrong?

    The company is making thousands yet xtrap's contract is still on.
    I see new content introduced but whats good about a new vip or a rare weapon I just won when most of the games I join has hackers in them?

    Since Egypt is the main, not the only, source of hacking, block them from making new accounts untill all the reports have been viewed, hackers been banned, and a new hack shield is introduced.

    Let me quote myself:


    http://forum.z8games.com/showpost.php?p=4080840&postcount=18

    I'm 100% sure most of the forumers, excluding MODs and comp players, will agree to that. ^^

    Basically they haven't shown any improvement.
  • MoeDeta wrote: »
    I'll use "you" as "the whole community" then.

    I'm not saying that because Saidin left, the company must be falling. I'm saying that the CONs listed in that review, what has proved it wrong?

    The company is making thousands yet xtrap's contract is still on.
    I see new content introduced but whats good about a new vip or a rare weapon I just won when most of the games I join has hackers in them?

    Since Egypt is the main, not the only, source of hacking, block them from making new accounts untill all the reports have been viewed, hackers been banned, and a new hack shield is introduced.

    Let me quote myself:


    http://forum.z8games.com/showpost.php?p=4080840&postcount=18

    I'm 100% sure most of the forumers, excluding MODs and comp players, will agree to that. ^^

    Basically they haven't shown any improvement.
    You're comparing the opinions of employees to the direction of the game and..


    Sorry, I'm confused. Maybe you should make a cheating thread instead, that's not this thread.
  • Dot: Yes I am. I'm not complaining just about the hackers, I'm complaining about not doing anything. I'm sure my post wasn't all about hackers. Please don't reply we are doing something since I play more than you and I don't see a change. Just bugs, hacks, bugs, bugs, and more bugs.


    I tried to post a min ago but I got "invalid link"? I thought it was deleted but here we are!
  • MoeDeta wrote: »
    Dot: Yes I am. I'm not complaining just about the hackers, I'm complaining about not doing anything. I'm sure my post wasn't all about hackers. Please don't reply we are doing something since I play more than you and I don't see a change. Just bugs, hacks, bugs, bugs, and more bugs.


    I tried to post a min ago but I got "invalid link"? I thought it was deleted but here we are!
    I can see you're complaining, my complaint-radar is quite effective, I'm asking how it relates to this thread which is about SGW company reviews - reviews by former employees, not by you as a customer.
  • [MOD]dot wrote: »
    It is worth noting that anyone can write a review, and most reviews mirror the complaints brought forth by the first review.
    Not to say all of them are false, but at least one is.
    Here, I got a better script for you:

    " So someone decided to pick 6 random days on a calendar:

    Nov 19, 2013
    Jun 26, 2014
    Jul 25, 2014
    Aug 8, 2014
    Aug 22, 2014
    Aug 25, 2014

    Then that person decided to change his/her way of writing to make 6 different reviews to falsely claim that SW isn't the greatest company on earth. "

    Sounds good?
  • seems legit. Saidin is like the 5-6th GM that has quit over the past 5 months or so.

    and that's just the company problems... then there's the game problems....
  • Mathaholic wrote: »
    Here, I got a better script for you:

    " So someone decided to pick 6 random days on a calendar:

    Nov 19, 2013
    Jun 26, 2014
    Jul 25, 2014
    Aug 8, 2014
    Aug 22, 2014
    Aug 25, 2014

    Then that person decided to change his/her way of writing to make 6 different reviews to falsely claim that SW isn't the greatest company on earth. "

    Sounds good?
    That's not what I said nor what I meant.
    I said at least one review is false, because at least one is.

    I'm not on this forum to defend Z8/G4/SG/SGW, it's not what I'm ordered to do and it's not something I'd ever do.
    I like to think of myself as working for Juicebox, not the company HE works for.

    (To clarify, "not something I'd ever do" refers to being compelled to defend anything. If my perspective coincides with a favorable position on something, that's different.)
  • The content doesn't say Game Manager and this was already mentioned in another thread (which is where you got it from )
    No need to make a new thread about it.

    inb4close
  • [MOD]dot wrote: »
    my complaint-radar is quite effective

    Simply fantastic .^^

    One topic to branch into would the quality of employment these people have had.

    Not talking about any specific company here :
    Yes every company has turn over, some people who feel they were mistreated and the crappy wages .
    Is this company one of them ? Do you guys support places that treat their employees poorly ? Do you go to one grocery store over its rival across the street simply because their employees are paid a little better?
  • Everyone can sort 12 lines like yours.Try harder than this to prove your point.

    but if you're right then,you have retired with the same way Saidin got retired.So you're upset and you felt bad for both of you cuz this company doesn't have a future for non Koreans.
    I see this is not fair :/ however,life is not fair.

    If you really were a GM,then you know that this conversation here will end no where,cuz no one of the management gives a fq about this forum.
  • Actually, I am growing very suspicious of this racism rumor thing.

    During the stream today on Twitch, the GMs came and were answering ALL of everyone's questions. Well, they answered from crazy questions like from "do you like pie" to normal questions like "how cool is the office". But when I asked them if the rumor about the racism going on in Smilegate West is true, they ignored me.. I also asked 3x.. Must be ignoring for a reason they don't want to share
  • Saidin probably got fired because he's non-Korean.
  • Actually, I am growing very suspicious of this racism rumor thing.

    During the stream today on Twitch, the GMs came and were answering ALL of everyone's questions. Well, they answered from crazy questions like from "do you like pie" to normal questions like "how cool is the office". But when I asked them if the rumor about the racism going on in Smilegate West is true, they ignored me.. I also asked 3x.. Must be ignoring for a reason they don't want to share

    wow, the truth hurts... maybe thats why he not answer that question?!
  • when i read all the employee reviews im asking me why we put money into that company?

    stop spending money for this game.
  • Actually, I am growing very suspicious of this racism rumor thing.

    During the stream today on Twitch, the GMs came and were answering ALL of everyone's questions. Well, they answered from crazy questions like from "do you like pie" to normal questions like "how cool is the office". But when I asked them if the rumor about the racism going on in Smilegate West is true, they ignored me.. I also asked 3x.. Must be ignoring for a reason they don't want to share

    I'll make sure to ask that next time! I was on mumble all the time but I wasn't looking at the stream. Only 9, xbox, and Sherlock were watching the stream chat + the game.
  • most publishers for free to play games inhibit this type of atmosphere, it wouldn't surprise me if the reviews were legitimate. they all mention something about salary yet fail to publish any numbers though which kind of bugs me.
  • [MOD]dot wrote: »
    It is worth noting that anyone can write a review, and most reviews mirror the complaints brought forth by the first review.
    Not to say all of them are false, but at least one is.

    We've both been around a while..
    And I can safely say that we can both agree at least one of them was not false.
  • The best GM is gone, he was all the time here for the community in the forum and in the game, maybe he go away because he see that he can not change the system like Xtrap, Smilegate management ideas etc... now he work for a better company Blizzard, i hope that is the true, i wish him the best! #FreeSaidin
  • }dreamyyy wrote: »
    The best GM is gone, he was all the time here for the community in the forum and in the game, maybe he go away because he see that he can not change the system like Xtrap, Smilegate management ideas etc... now he work for a better company Blizzard, i hope that is the true, i wish him the best! #FreeSaidin

    Idk where you heard this, but you're on the wrong track. x_X
  • What you mean? This with Blizzard or what? >_<