Corruption, Hypocrites, and Giggles
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=281003
I read this thread and laugh...
So some clarifications since I have no doubts in my mind Ace Gaming ghosted.
1. I used my cell phone to talk to Members of Carbon when I ghosted. Easiest way of communicating and nothing that can record our conversations. I only talked with Andrej and then he relayed the information to the other teams. I also had a stream going in the background so that they could see my screen. I don't remember who all had it up but they had another monitor or laptop (something along those lines) and they were able to watch what was going on live.
2. Iceman kissed Ace Gaming's ass for as long as I can remember. When we worked in ESL together, to doing our own thing, in ESG. The only unbiased and fair person out of everybody in ESG was Erick. Erick knew everybody, was chill with everybody and was FAIR with everybody. Iceman was never fair in my opinion but out of respect of what he has and was doing for the community, I kept my thoughts to myself.
3. Iceman had an easier opportunity, easier cover up and better back up support. Of course Polleus, his business partner will defend him. Of course Mike, his business partner who Iceman also pays to do work for ESG, will defend him. Of course, GM Saidin will probably defend him because GM Saidin is bias himself towards Ace Gaming and he has been working with Saidin for god know's how long.
4. & not to my surprise, Erick doesn't belief Iceman and looks at PROOF right in front of him. AN ACTUAL STATEMENT FROM A TEAM MEMBER ON THE ROSTER that states "ICEMAN GHOSTED FOR LIFELINE WHILE I WAS ON THE ROSTER", IS PROOF.
If I were to come out like I did and Carbon were to deny the allegations made against them, they would of been shut down. I don't see any reason why not to take Sockeyes seriously and take his allegations seriously.
Roth can post all the proof he wants that he wasn't ghosting but in the end, he probably was because like Carbon and like everybody else in this community, want to take the easy way to win a free trip to China.
So I have to say, this game is corrupt... Rob, I call you a hypocrite and I laugh at you for probably talking sh!t about me after you found out I ghosted.
I had the guilty conscious and had to admit my faults and move pass them. Iceman won't ever admit to them because he has a lot more to give up then I did... A mod position, he would have to remove himself from ESG, (which means ESG has no funding and goes bye bye) and he would probably not game in CF anymore... So he would be losing half his life right there...
Don't get me wrong I had the deepest respect for Ace Gaming and I did for Rob. Even after the fact that they probably didn't even like me anymore. But in the end, this is a game. There is no "REAL" consequences for fcking up here. People choose the easy way in life.
As much as Erick doesn't like me anymore, I don't hold that against him because in the long run, he is the best thing that happened to ESG and has his sht together. He is fair and always has been from the start back in the good old CFL days. I commend Erick for sticking with the facts and whats right in front of him. Don't be blind to facts. They ghosted. Ban them. Get over it. Lets bring back Carbon though because at least if they cheat their way to LAN, they will outperform Ace Gaming regardless.
*Disclaimer: I was not payed $100.00 to post this and yes I know I'm a scumbag so say it all you want because I will hear it again for the 100th time. I would have 100 dollars for every time I heard that... Oh wait I did...
I read this thread and laugh...
So some clarifications since I have no doubts in my mind Ace Gaming ghosted.
1. I used my cell phone to talk to Members of Carbon when I ghosted. Easiest way of communicating and nothing that can record our conversations. I only talked with Andrej and then he relayed the information to the other teams. I also had a stream going in the background so that they could see my screen. I don't remember who all had it up but they had another monitor or laptop (something along those lines) and they were able to watch what was going on live.
2. Iceman kissed Ace Gaming's ass for as long as I can remember. When we worked in ESL together, to doing our own thing, in ESG. The only unbiased and fair person out of everybody in ESG was Erick. Erick knew everybody, was chill with everybody and was FAIR with everybody. Iceman was never fair in my opinion but out of respect of what he has and was doing for the community, I kept my thoughts to myself.
3. Iceman had an easier opportunity, easier cover up and better back up support. Of course Polleus, his business partner will defend him. Of course Mike, his business partner who Iceman also pays to do work for ESG, will defend him. Of course, GM Saidin will probably defend him because GM Saidin is bias himself towards Ace Gaming and he has been working with Saidin for god know's how long.
4. & not to my surprise, Erick doesn't belief Iceman and looks at PROOF right in front of him. AN ACTUAL STATEMENT FROM A TEAM MEMBER ON THE ROSTER that states "ICEMAN GHOSTED FOR LIFELINE WHILE I WAS ON THE ROSTER", IS PROOF.
If I were to come out like I did and Carbon were to deny the allegations made against them, they would of been shut down. I don't see any reason why not to take Sockeyes seriously and take his allegations seriously.
Roth can post all the proof he wants that he wasn't ghosting but in the end, he probably was because like Carbon and like everybody else in this community, want to take the easy way to win a free trip to China.
So I have to say, this game is corrupt... Rob, I call you a hypocrite and I laugh at you for probably talking sh!t about me after you found out I ghosted.
I had the guilty conscious and had to admit my faults and move pass them. Iceman won't ever admit to them because he has a lot more to give up then I did... A mod position, he would have to remove himself from ESG, (which means ESG has no funding and goes bye bye) and he would probably not game in CF anymore... So he would be losing half his life right there...
Don't get me wrong I had the deepest respect for Ace Gaming and I did for Rob. Even after the fact that they probably didn't even like me anymore. But in the end, this is a game. There is no "REAL" consequences for fcking up here. People choose the easy way in life.
As much as Erick doesn't like me anymore, I don't hold that against him because in the long run, he is the best thing that happened to ESG and has his sht together. He is fair and always has been from the start back in the good old CFL days. I commend Erick for sticking with the facts and whats right in front of him. Don't be blind to facts. They ghosted. Ban them. Get over it. Lets bring back Carbon though because at least if they cheat their way to LAN, they will outperform Ace Gaming regardless.
*Disclaimer: I was not payed $100.00 to post this and yes I know I'm a scumbag so say it all you want because I will hear it again for the 100th time. I would have 100 dollars for every time I heard that... Oh wait I did...
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David00Live wrote: »*Disclaimer: I was not payed $100.00 to post this and yes I know I'm a scumbag so say it all you want because I will hear it again for the 100th time. I would have 100 dollars for every time I heard that... Oh wait I did...
That made me laugh but good read -
who cares?
if the ghosting happened at all, it could of only been versus sprayops and webgaming and lets be real, neither team could of beat jeden or instinct much less carbon, hammertime, and carnage
qualifiers in this game have always been shady. deal with it and win vs adversity -
Call me names all you want. Your upset and trying to jump on the bandwagon. Fact, is they dont need anyone to help them to beat most of them teams here now. Unlike you I keep things classy. I've seen first hand at lan what peple will try to do to win. Stop with your ridiculous accusations.David00Live wrote: »http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=281003
I read this thread and laugh...
So some clarifications since I have no doubts in my mind Ace Gaming ghosted.
1. I used my cell phone to talk to Members of Carbon when I ghosted. Easiest way of communicating and nothing that can record our conversations. I only talked with Andrej and then he relayed the information to the other teams. I also had a stream going in the background so that they could see my screen. I don't remember who all had it up but they had another monitor or laptop (something along those lines) and they were able to watch what was going on live.
2. Iceman kissed Ace Gaming's ass for as long as I can remember. When we worked in ESL together, to doing our own thing, in ESG. The only unbiased and fair person out of everybody in ESG was Erick. Erick knew everybody, was chill with everybody and was FAIR with everybody. Iceman was never fair in my opinion but out of respect of what he has and was doing for the community, I kept my thoughts to myself.
3. Iceman had an easier opportunity, easier cover up and better back up support. Of course Polleus, his business partner will defend him. Of course Mike, his business partner who Iceman also pays to do work for ESG, will defend him. Of course, GM Saidin will probably defend him because GM Saidin is bias himself towards Ace Gaming and he has been working with Saidin for god know's how long.
4. & not to my surprise, Erick doesn't belief Iceman and looks at PROOF right in front of him. AN ACTUAL STATEMENT FROM A TEAM MEMBER ON THE ROSTER that states "ICEMAN GHOSTED FOR LIFELINE WHILE I WAS ON THE ROSTER", IS PROOF.
If I were to come out like I did and Carbon were to deny the allegations made against them, they would of been shut down. I don't see any reason why not to take Sockeyes seriously and take his allegations seriously.
Roth can post all the proof he wants that he wasn't ghosting but in the end, he probably was because like Carbon and like everybody else in this community, want to take the easy way to win a free trip to China.
So I have to say, this game is corrupt... Rob, I call you a hypocrite and I laugh at you for probably talking sh!t about me after you found out I ghosted.
I had the guilty conscious and had to admit my faults and move pass them. Iceman won't ever admit to them because he has a lot more to give up then I did... A mod position, he would have to remove himself from ESG, (which means ESG has no funding and goes bye bye) and he would probably not game in CF anymore... So he would be losing half his life right there...
Don't get me wrong I had the deepest respect for Ace Gaming and I did for Rob. Even after the fact that they probably didn't even like me anymore. But in the end, this is a game. There is no "REAL" consequences for fcking up here. People choose the easy way in life.
As much as Erick doesn't like me anymore, I don't hold that against him because in the long run, he is the best thing that happened to ESG and has his sht together. He is fair and always has been from the start back in the good old CFL days. I commend Erick for sticking with the facts and whats right in front of him. Don't be blind to facts. They ghosted. Ban them. Get over it. Lets bring back Carbon though because at least if they cheat their way to LAN, they will outperform Ace Gaming regardless.
*Disclaimer: I was not payed $100.00 to post this and yes I know I'm a scumbag so say it all you want because I will hear it again for the 100th time. I would have 100 dollars for every time I heard that... Oh wait I did...
So everyone can get mad or get better....you guys eat this crap up like its fact yet the only real fact here is your ego's get hurt when you lose. Put your damn ego's down and strive to be better......not be what everyone thinks you are..a joke -
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[MOD]Iceman wrote: »Tired of hearing you run your mouth..you and I both know your doing nothing. Own up to what you did. Brando sold you all out.
you want to be put on the goomba list gramps?
im sure brando told you whatever he wanted thinking he would get unbanned. We ghosted yes ( personally I didnt, just played my game), but we didnt evne need it. Davids stream was delayed by 10 seconds and andrej was the one talking to david -
[MOD]Iceman wrote: »Call me names all you want. Your upset and trying to jump on the bandwagon. Fact, is they dont need anyone to help them to beat most of them teams here now. Unlike you I keep things classy. I've seen first hand at lan what peple will try to do to win. Stop with your ridiculous accusations.
So everyone can get mad or get better....you guys eat this crap up like its fact yet the only real fact here is your ego's get hurt when you lose. Put your damn ego's down and strive to be better......not be what everyone thinks you are..a joke
Calling you a hypocrite and saying I loss respect to you must not be classy enough for you. You keep things classy and under the table... To bad (Insert CF TERM HERE) Tables have been turned and you have been called out.
I'm not putting excuses for anybody. I wasn't even playing competitive when I was "Playing" Cross Fire. I just had to say something because in the end, this is my opinion. Sockeyes words are factual statements against you. Stay classy all you want but that doesn't change the fact you cheated for Ace Gaming / LifeLine at some point during your career. They don't have an audio recording or a statement made by me and by other team mates because in the end, Roth and Malte do enjoy their free trips to China. Like anybody else would
Also, there is no reason to be upset with you. I was linked to the post sockeyes made and reading through it. My title of this thread explains my emotions and thoughts I had. I'm not angry and quite frankly, I'm happy that you are being exposed like this because then I don't look like the only scumbag who made a bad choice.
As Polleus stated:[MOD]Polleus wrote: »I've been here since 2009. It's definitely the most pathetic thing I've seen here. As a player, as a Moderator, and as a League Administrator.
You fall under the same category and for that is why I laugh at the corruption and the hypocritical criticism from my mistake. -
If iceman ghosted which is possible but is just speculation he would've lost more than gained he spent his money on this game so why would he want his reputation ruined like David live makes no sense. Who cares if he's friends with ace gaming I like ace gaming but doesn't mean I'd ghost for them
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David I understand what you are trying to say but lets look at it like this.
You and Carbon had
1) Recorded video/audio evidence of you and Carbon talking about ghosting
2) You the accused admitted it
All we have is just text from a ex team member of LifeLine. Now im not saying what is going on is true or not, but from all of the evidence that has been posted, there is not enough to say they ghosted.
The only way I can 100% believe that the accusations are true is if the accused Roth, Malte, and/or Iceman come forward as they are the only ones in the mix. Or there is recorded audio/video and/or the accused admitted they ghosted. -
If iceman ghosted which is possible but is just speculation he would've lost more than gained he spent his money on this game so why would he want his reputation ruined like David live makes no sense. Who cares if he's friends with ace gaming I like ace gaming but doesn't mean I'd ghost for them
It has everything to do with it and that is why I explained how biases Iceman was. Why would Iceman ghost? Well because Iceman likes Ace Gaming and always has. Or he could of received a lovely offer of 100 bucks as I was.
I'm open about my mistake but Iceman will stay as politically correct as he can with this. So regardless of my argument, he will deny everything and always will -
David I understand what you are trying to say but lets look at it like this.
You and Carbon had
1) Recorded video/audio evidence of you and Carbon talking about ghosting
2) You the accused admitted it
All we have is just text from a ex team member of LifeLine. Now im not saying what is going on is true or not, but from all of the evidence that has been posted, there is not enough to say they ghosted.
The only way I can 100% believe that the accusations are true is if the accused Roth, Malte, and/or Iceman come forward as they are the only ones in the mix. Or there is recorded audio/video and/or the accused admitted they ghosted.
supposedly there is more evidence to come, keep posted -
David00Live wrote: »Doop has some good sources and I wouldn't doubt it...
unfortunately i deleted all my bandis so i could install abunch of skyrim mods, so i can't confirm or deny these allegations with evidence.
lets be real the game isn't playable unless my assassin has beautiful flowing hair -
unfortunately i deleted all my bandis so i could install abunch of skyrim mods, so i can't confirm or deny these allegations with evidence.
lets be real the game isn't playable unless my assassin has beautiful flowing hair
Libby has nude mods -
David00Live wrote: »I had the guilty conscious and had to admit my faults and move pass them.
Let's not forget you didn't come out and admit until AFTER we had informed you that we had found out. Don't come on here to try and act all high and mighty. You made the post literally only hours after we fired you from ESG and informed you that Saidin and G4Box were aware of the situation. You posted your thread right before I had finished writing up a statement about it, on the same night.
Yeah. Real guilty conscience.
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[MOD]Polleus wrote: »Let's not forget you didn't come out and admit until AFTER we had informed you that we had found out. Don't come on here to try and act all high and mighty. You made the post literally only hours after we fired you from ESG and informed you that Saidin and G4Box were aware of the situation. You posted your thread right before I had finished writing up a statement about it, on the same night.
Yeah. Real guilty conscience.
*Slow clap*
I didn't have to make that post Polleus. It was literally 30 minutes after you "fired" me when I made the post. Not hours... Nobody even knew what happened because I posted about it before you made your "official statement". I gave all the information that I felt people were entitled to know and go from there. Other then that, you had a recording that was sh!t squat and could of been easily turned into "David was just kidding". No but I was upfront and honest.
Would I of came up and said, "I GHOSTED FOR CARBON." FCK no who would do that after they successfully ghosted and made 100 bucks? But it didn't sit right with me once it was up in the air for everybody to talk about. So I gave my side and made a public apology because I felt like a dumb ass and I knew it was wrong. Honestly, I would never do it again and that's what the recording was saying that I didn't want to get involved in something like that again.
*Please note Polleus is still defending Iceman... -
who cares?
if the ghosting happened at all, it could of only been versus sprayops and webgaming and lets be real, neither team could of beat jeden or instinct much less carbon, hammertime, and carnage
qualifiers in this game have always been shady. deal with it and win vs adversityDavid I understand what you are trying to say but lets look at it like this.
You and Carbon had
1) Recorded video/audio evidence of you and Carbon talking about ghosting
2) You the accused admitted it
All we have is just text from a ex team member of LifeLine. Now im not saying what is going on is true or not, but from all of the evidence that has been posted, there is not enough to say they ghosted.
The only way I can 100% believe that the accusations are true is if the accused Roth, Malte, and/or Iceman come forward as they are the only ones in the mix. Or there is recorded audio/video and/or the accused admitted they ghosted.
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[MOD]Iceman wrote: »Tired of hearing you run your mouth..you and I both know your doing nothing. Own up to what you did. Brando sold you all out.
Iceman, I'm sorry but you're the biggest ****ing fanboy ever, you're terrible at a game you're a mod of, and you're also an ace gaming fanboy, bert could ****ing slice your throat kid
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