merCy's Opinionated Competitive Evaluation.
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AwfulFallout wrote: »opinion is synonymous with judgement
in the few paragraphs above, i explained that most are not capable of passing judgement due to the issue that most players suffer from the inability to differentiate between skill deviations when looking at various players and as a result should not be taken seriously unless given from a reliable source (ie, doop, reck, slant.. etc).
just because you are given the right to have an opinion it does not mean it can not be judged nor does it mean it can't be true or untrue. it also does not mean you are entitled to spew out nonsense and not be able to back it up. opinions are statements and statements can be t/f or offer strong evidence to support them.
I'll laugh at you when Main doesn't get out of group play. -
AwfulFallout wrote: »opinion is synonymous with judgement
in the few paragraphs above, i explained that most are not capable of passing judgement due to the issue that most players suffer from the inability to differentiate between skill deviations when looking at various players and as a result should not be taken seriously unless given from a reliable source (ie, doop, reck, slant.. etc).
just because you are given the right to have an opinion it does not mean it can not be judged nor does it mean it can't be true or untrue. it also does not mean you are entitled to spew out nonsense and not be able to back it up. opinions are statements and statements can be t/f or offer strong evidence to support them.
first of all there's no way to objectively measure player skill as a whole, lists like these are always going to be formed from personal experience. saying that players are unqualified to give their opinion is just stupid; that to me is similar to saying that casual sports fans shouldn't give their opinion on teams and players because they don't understand intricacies of the game.
plus you're acting as if op is claiming his opinion to be fact, but all he has done is give his opinion. if all you're claiming is "from my experience, player x is better than player y," you don't need some sort of justification. you're not trying to convince anyone, you're just giving an opinion. -
slayaisMAD wrote: »xD mykL is a team leader, he makes prime what they are. Without him they wouldn't be average, they would be below average.
Somewhat like what Peyton was to Colts. That's why I put him @ 8. I really do think he's an extremely solid player.
LOL. I almost cried at the fact that this is coming from suko.
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THEREALDAG wrote: »first of all there's no way to objectively measure player skill as a whole, lists like these are always going to be formed from personal experience. saying that players are unqualified to give their opinion is just stupid; that to me is similar to saying that casual sports fans shouldn't give their opinion on teams and players because they don't understand intricacies of the game.
plus you're acting as if op is claiming his opinion to be fact, but all he has done is give his opinion. if all you're claiming is "from my experience, player x is better than player y," you don't need some sort of justification. you're not trying to convince anyone, you're just giving an opinion.
never claimed such a thing, i just replied to slaya that these should be held with little value because they don't offer any real critical analysis. they're more of a joke if anything
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slayaisMAD wrote: »
Lol yeah we lossed to flick, you're point? All the players in flick are 2x the player you are, and even then they're still not better than us.
It's funny, people rate Main higher than us yet we beat them in ESG. Yet when flick beats us we're just complete bads and overrated players?
They wanted the win more, we went in with a bad mindset.
tl;dr you're an idiot, keep subbing for pub teams -
if he doesn't have a point, why did i occasionally get invites from good teams for important tournaments when i wasn't even playing cf at the timeslayaisMAD wrote: »I'll laugh at you when Main doesn't get out of group play.
everyone knows my shot is way below average and at times i have commitment issues, must be an intangible trait that makes me a desirable teammate? -
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Lol yeah we lossed to flick, you're point? All the players in flick are 2x the player you are, and even then they're still not better than us.
It's funny, people rate Main higher than us yet we beat them in ESG. Yet when flick beats us we're just complete bads and overrated players?
They wanted the win more, we went in with a bad mindset.
tl;dr you're an idiot, keep subbing for pub teams
'lossed'
are you sure you go to school anthony -
Lol yeah we lossed to flick, you're point? All the players in flick are 2x the player you are, and even then they're still not better than us.
It's funny, people rate Main higher than us yet we beat them in ESG. Yet when flick beats us we're just complete bads and overrated players?
They wanted the win more, we went in with a bad mindset.
tl;dr you're an idiot, keep subbing for pub teams
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tl;dr you're an idiot, keep subbing for pub teams
Only time I subbed for TG was when I was getting on once every 4 days.
Thanks for making yourself look like an idiot Anthony, just because you busted Carbon, and you can make horrible raps about other players, doesn't make you good @ cf.
My record vs Prime/Anthony in matches : 2-0 gomL -
slayaisMAD wrote: »Only time I subbed for TG was when I was getting on once every 4 days.
Thanks for making yourself look like an idiot Anthony, just because you busted Carbon, and you can make horrible raps about other players, doesn't make you good @ cf.
My record vs Prime/Anthony in matches : 2-0 gomL
I think i'm good at CF because I busted Carbon and make funny raps? Where have I ever said that or displayed that? You're delusional.
And please, when have you beat prime? I remember you losing to prime on the mine with agnBREAKOUT (or their old name) with aWm there, and you beating duopoint with me and mykL there.
^Other than that, what have you done against me or prime, I would love to know. -
I think i'm good at CF because I busted Carbon and make funny raps? Where have I ever said that or displayed that? You're delusional.
And please, when have you beat prime? I remember you losing to prime on the mine with agnBREAKOUT (or their old name) with aWm there, and you beating duopoint with me and mykL there.
^Other than that, what have you done against me or prime, I would love to know.
I was trolling idgaf, yeah were 1-1 idc you're probably better than me, but to say I'm a 3/4 is untrue. -
Suko why would you leave you tryed to start saying i bait everyone in matches. You were to scared to play mid because "oh i'm bad at it" and no one else wants it so i play mid everytime in matches. I catch the rotates and mainly use sound and I still topfrag matches. Telling me I bait is the dumbest thing ever. I watch whatever spot is given to me lmao.
The fact you left means you're obviously not dedicated. Too much behind us anyways to get along or even be on the same team. -
Suko why would you leave you tryed to start saying i bait everyone in matches. You were to scared to play mid because "oh i'm bad at it" and no one else wants it so i play mid everytime in matches. I catch the rotates and mainly use sound and I still topfrag matches. Telling me I bait is the dumbest thing ever. I watch whatever spot is given to me lmao.
The fact you left means you're obviously not dedicated. Too much behind us anyways to get along or even be on the same team.
I was dedicated, and I refuse to talk trash to you. I admitted to being bad @ playing mid on port, your point? It's something I obviously need to work on, but it doesn't mean anything in the long scheme of things. I was needed more @ A site anyhow, where I constantly get opening frags and make calls.
And you do bait, you don't know how to play with your teammates, you're a pubstar and the only reason you're on the team is because you're close friends with Deezy.
If you wish to talk more, message me on steam. There is no reason for this to be public. -
I don't think there are even 5 above average teams right now.
No Carbon, no Socks, who's left? Kanata, Enlighten, FS are the only ones I can think of.
I completely agree with you, but I think it's a good thing. It gives other teams a chance to become better @ CF and possibly having a new team represent the US. -
slayaisMAD wrote: »I completely agree with you, but I think it's a good thing. It gives other teams a chance to become better @ CF and possibly having a new team represent the US.
tbh, ppl cant get past the fact that scrims dont matter so that's why teams are made and broken
the fact that ppl brag about beating other teams in scrims or beating them in cups/tournies with no ac doesn't help too much either(bandi doesnt count for sht)
your statement applies only to the teams that view scrims as practice, not an indication of the team's skill level. and right now in NA, there are little teams that do this -
Not going to start anymore drama since this has happened since 09 with you and teams+ players. I took it in offense when my whole team said i cheated and I perform well on client holding my weakest spot and you tell me I just bait to get my frags. I have to catch the rotates which so i might bait once in a while trying to stop them from pushing since im going to be way in the back. All I know is I tryed in matches did good and then you tryed telling me the only reason I do good is baiting got me mad.slayaisMAD wrote: »I was dedicated, and I refuse to talk trash to you. I admitted to being bad @ playing mid on port, your point? It's something I obviously need to work on, but it doesn't mean anything in the long scheme of things. I was needed more @ A site anyhow, where I constantly get opening frags and make calls.
And you do bait, you don't know how to play with your teammates, you're a pubstar and the only reason you're on the team is because you're close friends with Deezy.
If you wish to talk more, message me on steam. There is no reason for this to be public. -
Not going to start anymore drama since this has happened since 09 with you and teams+ players. I took it in offense when my whole team said i cheated and I perform well on client holding my weakest spot and you tell me I just bait to get my frags. I have to catch the rotates which so i might bait once in a while trying to stop them from pushing since im going to be way in the back. All I know is I tryed in matches did good and then you tryed telling me the only reason I do good is baiting got me mad.
You said tryed twice and it hurt.
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