Competitive Teams Evaluation Thread
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as for your second point, zz did say it was opinion based. feel free to make your own.
ohhhh... thats why.. my idols are inactive.. I heard they are busy in work and college school... if they are still active up to now, they should be top 5 FORE SURE!.. but TBH... in my opinion, Undaunted is BELOW AVERAGE.
LTM, flick, HWG, MEEK!chem, source ..these team can beat Undaunted in a 10-5 or 10-4 total score.. NO DOUBT! -
Ellustrial wrote: »Puh-lease. The only thing holding our roster back from China is that two of our invite players are still adjusting to mouse accel after a decade of playing without it.
The main thing I disagree with are Main's and Prime's placements. Both are too high. Main is a pugteam that doesn't practice. Prime is prime + Dag. 6.5 at best for both.
lol @ giving rating from scrim last night. If we're a 6.5, you're a 3 at best. -
birthday101 wrote: »ohhhh... thats why.. my idols are inactive.. I heard they are busy in work and college school... if they are still active up to now, they should be top 5 FORE SURE!.. but TBH... in my opinion, Undaunted is BELOW AVERAGE.
LTM, flick, HWG, MEEK!chem, source ..these team can beat Undaunted in a 10-5 or 10-4 total score.. NO DOUBT!
You're joking correct? Easily 10-4 or 10-5 us?
Flick- Lol. K.
LTM- Already ript em. Barely lost a half to them when it was my 2nd day back after 2months of solid league and WoW play. 0 Fps's, since GTA isnt in first person, nor a shooter really. its kinda its own thing.
Meek- Can't really tell. Scrimmed them once since I've came back, and they're a ton better. Can't gauge how good they really are.
Chem- Never heard of em, or even seen them scrim. So I can't say anything.
Source- Same as above.
I love people like this. Bash on Undaunted because of how horrible they were for a long time (I can agree since I DID bash on them when they were), but since WCG of this year, when have we not done well in a tournament for a real prize? People forget that we've placed 5th, 4th, and 3rd progressively in the past few tournaments that mattered, at least when I played with them. So go ahead and bash on Undaunted, because I can literally name on one hand the teams who have beat us in matches that matter. So go ahead and be arrogant. I could care less. Just know your stuff before throwing out insane things like LTM easily beating us 10-5 or 10-4.
*Not saying any of these teams are bad, just stating that Undaunted is not an "easy" win. Considering we've beaten better teams than us, and lost to teams way worse than us. -
You're joking correct? Easily 10-4 or 10-5 us?
LTM- Already ript em. Barely lost a half to them when it was my 2nd day back after 2months of solid league and WoW play. 0 Fps's, since GTA isnt in first person, nor a shooter really. its kinda its own thing. ust know your stuff before throwing out insane things like LTM easily beating us 10-5 or 10-4.
*Not saying any of these teams are bad, just stating that Undaunted is not an "easy" win. Considering we've beaten better teams than us, and lost to teams way worse than us.
Lmaooooo ''already ript them'' lool ok, you guys haven't beat us never ever, except on tombstone hahah stop lying, LTM is way better than Undaunted don't trip too much saying you already ript us when that never happened -
I'm pretty sure I already ript you. You guys wanted some sort of grudge match after that ******ed tournament, and you guys lost on PORT hugely. Then proceeded to say "Got lucky". Yeah... k. I don't really care what you think though. Let me know when you get through one tournament with an AC that you don't forget to have someone "run".naturality wrote: »Lmaooooo ''already ript them'' lool ok, you guys haven't beat us never ever, except on tombstone hahah stop lying, LTM is way better than Undaunted don't trip too much saying you already ript us when that never happenedDystopiaMMIX wrote: »This isn't an evaluation, this is just bashing.
I can feel the competitive scene die a little more each time a thread like this is made.
Not really a bashing since Kyle not only said "Its completely opinion based", and "prove me right or wrong" and not actually BASHING on teams. He said only positive things about the teams he mentioned, and definitely hit the character max per post because I swear he has become an author. -
I'm pretty sure I already ript you. You guys wanted some sort of grudge match after that ******ed tournament, and you guys lost on PORT hugely. Then proceeded to say "Got lucky". Yeah... k. I don't really care what you think though. Let me know when you get through one tournament with an AC that you don't forget to have someone "run".
We won port on the match... Loll you're mental, if you are talking about AC, we are leading our esg group ,let's see if Undaunted atleast gets to esg playoffs hahahah -
naturality wrote: »We fuucking won on port you are fuucking ret,ard lmao you're the biggest ret,ard I swear stop making stories on your head that never happened, wait, want me to post the screenshots so you look like a dumb fck? Loll you're mental
I'm talking about after. I'm aware you won in the actual stupid tournament, but like 2 days later, we replayed, we won, then told us we had a "lucky half". IF it will make you and your little feelings feel better I'll apologize for saying I "ript" you. God dam. emotional. -
I'm talking about after. I'm aware you won in the actual stupid tournament, but like 2 days later, we replayed, we won, then told us we had a "lucky half". IF it will make you and your little feelings feel better I'll apologize for saying I "ript" you. God dam. emotional.
You never ript my team and never will hahah, if you're talking about a scrim I'm pretty sure I wasn't there cause if I was I would've shiit on you, damn easy, probably you won against felix and a bunch of ringers, gratz dude -
DystopiaMMIX wrote: »This isn't an evaluation, this is just bashing.
I can feel the competitive scene die a little more each time a thread like this is made.
I think the only reason why I check the forums is to see if someone made threads like these so I can read people's comments for a good chucklesome stuff that I half ass read sorry
I honestly don't know why people keep on bashing undaunted, maybe because of their record, skill level or other various reasons. What I do know is that even though if they have a high turnover rate, they still manage to find those rare key loyal players. Those players know how to stick together and learn together. I promise you by the middle/end of next year and if they stick together they can actually be contenders at an above-average level.
The competitive scene is notorious for 2 weeks teams as people try to find the best teammates which consist of aim, movement, IQ and other stuff. which means they're lacking loyalty, chemistry and team work.
but undaunted seems to know how to keep some players in their team. If they learn how to divide and conquer, which is playing properly as a team they can eventually be good.
Eventually their aim and skill set will become superior with the more experience they have. -
I think the only reason why I check the forums is to see if someone made threads like these so I can read people's comments for a good chuckle
I honestly don't know why people keep on bashing undaunted, maybe because of their record, skill level or other various reasons. What I do know is that even though if they have a high turnover rate, they still manage to find those rare key loyal players. Those players know how to stick together and learn together. I promise you by the middle/end of next year and if they stick together they can actually be contenders at an above-average level.
The competitive scene is notorious for 2 weeks teams as people try to find the best teammates which consist of aim, movement, IQ and other stuff. which means they're lacking loyalty, chemistry and team work.
but undaunted seems to know how to keep some players in their team. If they learn how to divide and conquer, which is playing properly as a team they can eventually be good.
Eventually their aim and skill set will become superior with the more experience they have.
Lol the thing is they have been around for 2 + years, plenty of experience -
Undaunted has only been a competitive team since August of 2012 (Which was when I went competitive. So about a year an a half. We started off with a full roster consisting of 5 pub clan players: Me, Hero, Smokey, Jaguar (John), and VN Cookie.
We took 3rd place in our first cup ever, The only prior competition I had played in was leading Synical in WOGL-O (Where we got destroyed with a record of 2-7) , and that helped motivate me to move forward and . As as a competitive player, I was sub-par to average at best unitl after FG LAN even though I played with teams I probably shouldn't have been on / wasn't good enough for. Undaunted was never a really grounded team Until our reformation in the fall of 2013, where I strived to make us better than the former "9th Place Heros" we were in the spring and summer of 2013. FG LAN made me realize how much more teams I play with or run have to work on. After FG LAN I made FragBots with Tom. Thought I was one of the weaker players, I learned a lot from Tom and I have to give him credit for that. He pushed me to become better, even though the team did die to Prime being made.
All in all, Undaunteds current Roster is made of all past Undaunted players. Cwiller in Thornz both have 6 months put in under the team, Smokey has 1 year or so, and Juan has 1 month or 2.
When we came back in the winter, after the split of the former 5 we used in OCG / ESG to do well, we were terrible. Under the name Reflections we got rolled, because most matches we had less than 5, or played with players who had no experience that I knew in real life. ESG Winter Series is our first event with a solid roster back under the Undaunted name. I dont know why you think Im trashing any teams Idella, Its an opinionated evaluation, if you don't like how I rated your team, prove me wrong. The point is to give a glimpse to teams that are on my radar, so if I listed you, even if I rated you lower, I still consider you a strong competitor, I just have faith my team has the ability to beat them if we play well. Thats not to say we will beat every team lower than us on the rating list, because I know we will lose to bad teams, and beat good teams, every team has lost to a team they underestimated, it happens.
Anyways: This roster has about 6 months of experience together, and only 2 with Juan. We plan to stick it out for the long hall together. This isn't a 2 year old team. I have been competitive for 1 year and 6 months, and Undaunted has been active 7 or 8 of those months, so as a team we are less than a year old. The clan was originally a pub clan called Aftermath with 55 people.
Good luck to everyone, and thanks to those who recognize the time I have put in over the past year and a half, I have gone from a terrible pubstar to halfway decent. -
CaptArcher wrote: »I watched juan's stream
"rush a" rush b" play picks"
^strats so op for such a very good team
Lol, the call makes the strat seem more simple than it is, and yes we do play pick set ups, as do a lot of teams.
When I say those things though, we dont just sloppily play picks or rush a site. We go over beforehand how to do it properly, though I will admit sometimes we rush sites sloppily. I didnt rate us as "Very good" Right now Id say we are above average at best. 6.5 out of 10 isnt a high rating by any means. Calls don't have to be complicated to be effective, its all about preparation, communication, and execution. -
lol how is triggergods rated below undaunted when the roster that tg has now has beaten undaunted 4x in matches?
4 Times in matches =_= I dont think our current s5 has even played 2 matches vs you, when we have played only 5 or so with this roster. lolz. You beat us on Santoria, congrats. My opinion is still the same. -
4 Times in matches =_= I dont think our current s5 has even played 2 matches vs you, when we have played only 5 or so with this roster. lolz. You beat us on Santoria, congrats. My opinion is still the same.
and ankara...
and port
and ankara again
and mexico(i think?)
either way, our roster has been together longer, just under different names.
lol @ fiction, not butthurt, just pointing stuff out. -
Its okay he thinks beating us in tourney's that allow m14's, spops, patriots are considered "competitive". The only one I will give you is that black widow game where u lost 4-7 and came back to win 7-3 because of our bad GR side. Gratz!4 Times in matches =_= I dont think our current s5 has even played 2 matches vs you, when we have played only 5 or so with this roster. lolz. You beat us on Santoria, congrats. My opinion is still the same. -
Its okay he thinks beating us in tourney's that allow m14's, spops, patriots are considered "competitive". The only one I will give you is that black widow game where u lost 4-7 and came back to win 7-3 because of our bad GR side. Gratz!
lol, ambition cup didnt allow any of that
ankara and bw were both on those.
and making excuses for beating you on santoria... lol
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