Need your opinion

Hi everyone

Trying to build a canadian team which includes my 11 year old son.

I told him to practice at least 2 hours while I am at work and be available for practice at night (he likes his runescape and hard to get him off that).

Now my issue is this. I feel that I am a bad Dad because I am asking my son to spend time on this game (gaming in general).

Last night after our practice he says to my wife. What Dad asks you to spend time practicing on a game?

Now I feel I have failed him and not having focus on the things he needs in real life.

So sad.
«1

Comments

  • you're playing this game as a Dad.




















































    mind blown
  • raingod wrote: »
    What Dad asks you to spend time practicing on a game?

    that sounds like he doesn`t even want to play or at least he does not want to play competitively.

    with kids, gaming time should be monitored, so it does not get out of hand.

    as long as there are other hobbies he likes (sports e.g) there is nothing wrong with it. sports, especially team sports will teach kids teamplay and sports in general will sharpen their reflexes.
  • you're playing this game as a Dad.




















































    mind blown

    I hope you are trolling. you can`t be that narrow-minded.
  • Ok being serious now,

    @ rainman, dude, teach him what you want. egaming is obviously becoming a valid source of income for many people (despite the opinions of many people). You trying to get him to play competitively is just like my parents pushing me to become an engineer/physicist. Kind of. Fortunately I enjoy math and chemistry so it worked out. However I know there are many kids out there that have conflicting interests with their parents. Why force your kids to try and become something they don't want.



    Then again, I'll probably make it mandatory in my house to lift... so every parent is like that. I'm sure my kids will be like "What is wrong with him, he is so obsessed with making us 'live healthy' and 'stay fit' "
  • You take your son fishing. Not practicing crossfire.
  • Fragz0rz wrote: »
    You take your son fishing. Not practicing crossfire.

    True.
    This is something for you.

    http://fishinghero.z8games.com/
  • sounds like LB_Lucky and ilikedrenk1ps to me.
  • When I saw you at fg lan talking to roth I didn't know you were raingod, no offence but at your age playing any video-game is really sad especially with your son

    I'm not to judge, so it's up to you.
    I don't see myself playing after highschool so ye, food for thought..

    And I just ate it cuz I'm fat

    if anything his age is acceptable due to the fact that he may have some freetime here and there

    But you're the one to talk since you spend 2/3 of your life here instead of losing weight for starters.
  • Chemsz wrote: »
    if anything his age is acceptable due to the fact that he may have some freetime here and there

    But you're the one to talk since you spend 2/3 of your life here instead of losing weight for starters.

    but..... ck is good :(
    I THINK.
  • If you're trying to bring your son to WCG.CA Qualifier theirs a rule of the age (13+). If not best of luck to your son. :/
  • Chemsz wrote: »
    if anything his age is acceptable due to the fact that he may have some freetime here and there

    But you're the one to talk since you spend 2/3 of your life here instead of losing weight for starters.

    Shots fired...

    And
    xiPee wrote: »
    If you're trying to bring your son to WCG.CA Qualifier theirs a rule of the age (13+). If not best of luck to your son. :/

    . Anyway, just let him do what he wants. You only get to be 11 once. :P
  • The latter half is kind of true. I'm Asian so I've always only been pushed to accel in my education, nothing elsw. However, because I'm doing/have done good in school, I can play this game as a hobby and even slightly competitively.

    It doesnt seem like your son really wants to pursue becoming a competitive CF player. Just let him do whatever his hobbies are while encouraging him to do well in school.


    But what would I know, I'm only 16 lol
  • Hey if your into military games and fps and your sun enjoys it thats cool! anything together can be family bonding! Just make sure you include a lot of other things to balance it out.. My friend and I used to practice when we were 11 for a couple hours a day while his dad was at work.. His dad served 26 years in the Canadian Forces so he was fascinated by the gameplay..

    Overall after playing we would do fun activities or he would just tell us to go outside, he would take us out for laser tag or take us out and make guns out of sticks and bottles for scopes.. good times... and we would use the component of strategy by beating our neighbours in water balloon fights. As long as you guys enjoy it and have fun i dont think you should feel guilty
  • Fragz0rz wrote: »
    You take your son fishing. Not practicing crossfire.
    not every son like to go fishing.
    And wtf with weight on this forum lol, if they are not in " good shape " so what, not everybody is in good shape, we all know lots of Americans are not in " good shape " so ? Its not because they play games all day long.
    OT: Well, if he does not want to then dont make him simple.
  • Just ask him if he wants to play CF, if not don't force him...
  • When I saw you at fg lan talking to roth I didn't know you were raingod, no offence but at your age playing any video-game is really sad especially with your son

    I'm not to judge, so it's up to you.
    I don't see myself playing after highschool so ye, food for thought..

    And I just ate it cuz I'm fat


    man i am also a father and i still play CF once in a while... nothing wrong with it, only problem is that i have a daughter, and she prefers S****oll or something... but now seriouslly , in my opinion, go easy on gaming time...
    he's still young

    :eek:
  • Eduar_d_o wrote: »
    man i am also a father and i still play CF once in a while... nothing wrong with it, only problem is that i have a daughter, and she prefers S****oll or something... but now seriouslly , in my opinion, go easy on gaming time...
    he's still young

    :eek:

    nevermind him. he is pretty narrow-minded.
  • raingod wrote: »
    Hi everyone

    Trying to build a canadian team which includes my 11 year old son.

    I told him to practice at least 2 hours while I am at work and be available for practice at night (he likes his runescape and hard to get him off that).

    Now my issue is this. I feel that I am a bad Dad because I am asking my son to spend time on this game (gaming in general).

    Last night after our practice he says to my wife. What Dad asks you to spend time practicing on a game?

    Now I feel I have failed him and not having focus on the things he needs in real life.

    So sad.

    The only really relevant question here is whether or not he wants to play CF.

    If you're trying to get him into something he doesn't really have a desire to get into, that's an issue. Now, it's a completely different story if you just introduced him to CF, and he, by himself, took to the game and really enjoyed playing it. But the first issue here is determining whether he wants to or not.
    Last night after our practice he says to my wife. What Dad asks you to spend time practicing on a game?

    Now I feel I have failed him and not having focus on the things he needs in real life.

    This alone suggests that he doesn't really have any desire to play. If he did, he most likely wouldn't have an issue with you pushing him onwards. But look at the wording. The way I see it is that I'd understand/have no complaints if my Dad

    a) pushed me towards something I wanted to do

    or b) pushed me towards something I didn't really want to do, but was a useful skill/thing to have in life

    but I wouldn't understand if my Dad pushed me towards something that I had no desire to do, and also wouldn't be useful for my survival.


    However, there's a fourth option here, one that is unlikely for an 11 year old to see. The fourth option is being pushed towards something I don't really enjoy, and wouldn't serve me later in life, but is something that my Dad enjoys. This would make sense to me, because I can understand a Dad wanting to do stuff with his kid(s), and a good way to do that is to try to introduce them to things you enjoy (and are also age-appropriate :P). This springs to mind as the case in this situation.

    Here's the thing though; you can introduce your kids to stuff you enjoy in the hopes that they will, but if they don't, you need to be aware of that, and you need to know when to accept defeat. Yea, maybe they don't like this one thing you do, but there's a LOT of other stuff that you can find common ground over. My advice is just to ask your son whether or not he's having fun. If he's enjoying himself, then great, there really isn't an issue. But if he isn't, don't force him into it, because like you said early, CF isn't exactly a life skill.

    (Please know that there are life skills you can gain via practicing ANYTHING, however what really matters is the medium with which you teach those skills)
  • There isn't anything wrong with you and him both enjoying the same fps game, but if he doesn't want to play it, I don't see why you would force him.


    I'm obviously not a parent, but having 5 siblings I've learned a thing or too. Always support your kids interests, as long as they are legal ;)
  • [MOD]Denxi wrote: »
    The only really relevant question here is whether or not he wants to play CF.

    If you're trying to get him into something he doesn't really have a desire to get into, that's an issue. Now, it's a completely different story if you just introduced him to CF, and he, by himself, took to the game and really enjoyed playing it. But the first issue here is determining whether he wants to or not.



    This alone suggests that he doesn't really have any desire to play. If he did, he most likely wouldn't have an issue with you pushing him onwards. But look at the wording. The way I see it is that I'd understand/have no complaints if my Dad

    a) pushed me towards something I wanted to do

    or b) pushed me towards something I didn't really want to do, but was a useful skill/thing to have in life

    but I wouldn't understand if my Dad pushed me towards something that I had no desire to do, and also wouldn't be useful for my survival.


    However, there's a fourth option here, one that is unlikely for an 11 year old to see. The fourth option is being pushed towards something I don't really enjoy, and wouldn't serve me later in life, but is something that my Dad enjoys. This would make sense to me, because I can understand a Dad wanting to do stuff with his kid(s), and a good way to do that is to try to introduce them to things you enjoy (and are also age-appropriate :P). This springs to mind as the case in this situation.

    Here's the thing though; you can introduce your kids to stuff you enjoy in the hopes that they will, but if they don't, you need to be aware of that, and you need to know when to accept defeat. Yea, maybe they don't like this one thing you do, but there's a LOT of other stuff that you can find common ground over. My advice is just to ask your son whether or not he's having fun. If he's enjoying himself, then great, there really isn't an issue. But if he isn't, don't force him into it, because like you said early, CF isn't exactly a life skill.

    (Please know that there are life skills you can gain via practicing ANYTHING, however what really matters is the medium with which you teach those skills)

    Denxi are you a wizard?
  • Don't force him to play the game,

    If he wants to then cool. If hes not willing to practice and get better then maybe get someone else?
  • Hey brother,

    One thing I've experienced through teaching people how to play games, sports, or academic work is that you have to be friendly, along side them. You have to pretend like a role model that is on their side and basically challenging them while making it seem like you are with them all the way. If they do not like the activity find out why, usually kids don't like new things because they feel like it's a new obstacle and it's just too hard or they just haven't done it enough. If you have established that the child does not want to participate there is nothing more you can do, by pushing an activity onto a child that has no interest can be damaging.

    Do not tell him to play two hours a day when he hasn't shown interest, play with your son and make him see the good parts of the game and see what is there to offer in terms of goals and or fun modes.

    Get your son familiar with the game and if he still doesn't like it than tell him it's fine and move on.

    Everyone has a story guys, don't be judging people based on what you see or hear unless you have known their full story you can't really criticize. Clearly raingod here has a problem and he is asking the people here hoping for a answer and that shows that he is at least mature enough to make this issue public and is not insecure.
  • [MOD]Denxi wrote: »
    The only really relevant question here is whether or not he wants to play CF.

    If you're trying to get him into something he doesn't really have a desire to get into, that's an issue. Now, it's a completely different story if you just introduced him to CF, and he, by himself, took to the game and really enjoyed playing it. But the first issue here is determining whether he wants to or not.



    This alone suggests that he doesn't really have any desire to play. If he did, he most likely wouldn't have an issue with you pushing him onwards. But look at the wording. The way I see it is that I'd understand/have no complaints if my Dad

    a) pushed me towards something I wanted to do

    or b) pushed me towards something I didn't really want to do, but was a useful skill/thing to have in life

    but I wouldn't understand if my Dad pushed me towards something that I had no desire to do, and also wouldn't be useful for my survival.


    However, there's a fourth option here, one that is unlikely for an 11 year old to see. The fourth option is being pushed towards something I don't really enjoy, and wouldn't serve me later in life, but is something that my Dad enjoys. This would make sense to me, because I can understand a Dad wanting to do stuff with his kid(s), and a good way to do that is to try to introduce them to things you enjoy (and are also age-appropriate :P). This springs to mind as the case in this situation.

    Here's the thing though; you can introduce your kids to stuff you enjoy in the hopes that they will, but if they don't, you need to be aware of that, and you need to know when to accept defeat. Yea, maybe they don't like this one thing you do, but there's a LOT of other stuff that you can find common ground over. My advice is just to ask your son whether or not he's having fun. If he's enjoying himself, then great, there really isn't an issue. But if he isn't, don't force him into it, because like you said early, CF isn't exactly a life skill.

    (Please know that there are life skills you can gain via practicing ANYTHING, however what really matters is the medium with which you teach those skills)

    Why do you always have to type such long paragraphs for one simple reply?
  • Let the kid experiment with different games. He will son try FPS in the future and who knows maybe he might be good at RPG or mmos. Bu eh Good luck on getting the kid into gaming :D
  • Encourage your kid to limit his time on the computer and go to a friends house or play sports etc.
    I'm still in my childhood but like 1nsomniac said you're only 11 once and you get to experience one childhood only so live it and stop playing games 24/7.
  • What was his tone when talking to your wife?? Has a very positive or negative way about it.

    I have known a few parents (coworkers) that made their kids play sports etc, and did not understand why they cried or made excuses all the time to avoid it. If you're not at that stage yet, then chat to him and see what he wants. Too bad its not a hmx comp eh?

    also if you need bait for wcg I can be of service :)
  • raingod wrote: »
    Hi everyone

    Trying to build a canadian team which includes my 11 year old son.

    I told him to practice at least 2 hours while I am at work and be available for practice at night (he likes his runescape and hard to get him off that).

    Now my issue is this. I feel that I am a bad Dad because I am asking my son to spend time on this game (gaming in general).

    Last night after our practice he says to my wife. What Dad asks you to spend time practicing on a game?

    Now I feel I have failed him and not having focus on the things he needs in real life.

    So sad.

    I don't think he has developed the competitive edge yet. Should come to him in the next few years. If he wants to stick to RS, let him.. I know I did for a while before I discovered CF. It'd be hard for him the practice anyways without having a set group of 4-5 people. Pick up some people for your team, make them understand that your son is still learning and may not hit every shot, and throw him into some scrims (preferably with you there as it would probably be a better experience for the both of you). Don't feel like you've failed at being a good father. Lots of people on here would love to have the support you give your son in regards to gaming. Try to find a balance though.
  • Ok being serious now,

    @ rainman, dude, teach him what you want. egaming is obviously becoming a valid source of income for many people (despite the opinions of many people). You trying to get him to play competitively is just like my parents pushing me to become an engineer/physicist. Kind of. Fortunately I enjoy math and chemistry so it worked out. However I know there are many kids out there that have conflicting interests with their parents. Why force your kids to try and become something they don't want.



    Then again, I'll probably make it mandatory in my house to lift... so every parent is like that. I'm sure my kids will be like "What is wrong with him, he is so obsessed with making us 'live healthy' and 'stay fit' "

    Actually, my son thinks it cool! His mom is not cool because she gives him homework, such as math and reading...so it works out I guess.
  • Why do you always have to type such long paragraphs for one simple reply?


    Actually, he was playing CF since he was 7 years old. We were with Sgt Banks Clan, our first clan we joined, me, my son and daughter (she is now 20).