Vote Kick System??
Allowing an option to see who voted f12 after a kick would be nice
Making it so that the people who don't vote, their vote is void and not counted as an f12
(because so many people are lazy and wont hit that f11)
(by this i mean either split the non-voters 50/50 or just as if there wasn't that many players in the room ie. if its a 8v8 but 8 people don't vote only a certain number of votes such as a 4v4 would be enough to kick that person ?)
Fixing the option where you can vote someone everytime you rejoin the game room, where some people just keep leaving, then rejoin to continually kick someone, even if they are legit.
~Just some personal thought
Making it so that the people who don't vote, their vote is void and not counted as an f12
(because so many people are lazy and wont hit that f11)
(by this i mean either split the non-voters 50/50 or just as if there wasn't that many players in the room ie. if its a 8v8 but 8 people don't vote only a certain number of votes such as a 4v4 would be enough to kick that person ?)
Fixing the option where you can vote someone everytime you rejoin the game room, where some people just keep leaving, then rejoin to continually kick someone, even if they are legit.
~Just some personal thought
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why would it be nice if you could see who f12?
its not like you gonna stop playing and check who did f12 right?
also you cant split a vote.... or you would end up like 4.5 votes for f11 and 4.5 votes for f12. then should he be kicked or not...
but there is abuse of the kick system and that wont ever change whatever they gonna change on the system. -
Voting should be private anyways, even for stupid reasons. (like I don't want a friend of mine knowing I f11ed in a forumer room so I could be the "kick MOD Champion 2013")
And yeah I do agree with the second part. If they don't vote for anything, their votes should simply not be counted at all. Since some people are either too busy playing the game to notice the vote, or others simply don't know how to... -
FrozenSyther wrote: »Voting should be private anyways, even for stupid reasons. (like I don't want a friend of mine knowing I f11ed in a forumer room so I could be the "kick MOD Champion 2013")
And yeah I do agree with the second part. If they don't vote for anything, their votes should simply not be counted at all. Since some people are either too busy playing the game to notice the vote, or others simply don't know how to...
I don't understand your first part, like do you mean if your friend gets kicked?? Because by that logic, since he is being kicked he can't see who kicked and the voting options anyways, or do you just mean a friend in the room then I understand that to a certain point of why you wouldn't want them to see :c -
Skittles_XD wrote: »I don't understand your first part, like do you mean if your friend gets kicked?? Because by that logic, since he is being kicked he can't see who kicked and the voting options anyways, or do you just mean a friend in the room then I understand that to a certain point of why you wouldn't want them to see :c
I was typing up a paragraph to explain it but meh. The second part of your quote. -
also you cant split a vote.... or you would end up like 4.5 votes for f11 and 4.5 votes for f12. then should he be kicked or not...
but there is abuse of the kick system and that wont ever change whatever they gonna change on the system.
You steal my splitting the vote idea.
If I am a host, I want to see who PUSHED f12 button, I want the ability to check the vote history during the game and kick them for hacker support, even after they left, as well as kick the hacker.
The system is abused only because there is no supervising.
Suppose we have a system where each player has a score for the hacker reporting, vote and the correctness. Detailed can be, each votekick starter of correct attempt can gain 2 points, correct voter gain 1 points, wrong votekick starter lose 2 points, wrong voter lose 1 point.
Then during vote, each players' vote is weighed by the score by a factor derived from scores, say, the score power of 2 (2^score).
You will find it is very hard for players to abuse the system. The more they abuse it, the less important his vote will be. -
but there is abuse of the kick system and that wont ever change whatever they gonna change on the system.
I second that there is an abuse in the cross fire kick system. First of all, why should 9 people vote F11 and 3 people vote F12 and it get denied because some people just didn't see the kick vote or just too lazy to hit an option.
In my opion, the kick system should be known to let people whom didn't vote, have an empty vote; meaning the vote didn't count to either F11 or F12.
It just makes kicking harder when people do not vote and it goes for F12.
*REASON*
There could be a hacker in a room and we could be trying to vote kick him out. Let's say he has 60/3 Score right now and getting only headshots, flying, doing chamm, and shooting through walls. Well, let's say I put a vote kick on his sorry name and 8 people press F11 in a 8/8 match and 4 people vote F12, because they think that they need that hacker to win the game. Well, that means 4 people Did Not Vote. So, in that case; why should the 4 people that did not vote auto-maticly be counted as an F12 vote to defend the hacker?! If the 4 votes failed to vote for either F11 or F12, it should be dropped and discarted; so the 8 people that voted F11 should of had him kicked.
BUT
Here is another problem that I noticed.
Let us say that the vote failed because the people that did not vote got F12, well another guy puts a vote kick on the hacker. Only this time, the vote score is 9/7! But wait, THE VOTE FAILED?? So, why did the vote fail when 9 people voted to kick him (F11) and 7 people voted to keep him (F12)?? I'm so confused?
I am only telling these stories so you guys understand what I see as a Cross-Fire player. I am not trying to offend anyone or say that the [GM]'s are doing a bad job. All I am saying is that the vote system does need to be fixed once and for all, to keep player peace and equality.
Thank you for your time of reading this; hope you understand that the voting system needs to be fixed. -
so that means if there is someone kicked you gonna stop playing and check that?
If he was the one kicked, he would not be able to see go kicked him (like how it is right now) I only suggest the "see who f12ed" because they could be a friend who is also cheating or someone supporting said cheater.
Also with the split vote idea, instead of splitting 9 making it 4.5, yak the number you have to split, and round to the lower even number, in this case 8 so it would be 4 and 4... I only suggest this because I usually see a wallet not get kicked by just one short vote away -
@LordSipholi
The 9/7 vote part only works because say the teams are even and the vote is 8/8 so is it accepted or denied?? And say your in a roomful of noobs (I might or might not be talking about ghost mode ^.^). Well say your doing really well, but the whole bl team complains, well that means if there's a vote kick, your already 9 f11ed,
So now one more vote to kick you but if your team is full of people who know how to play then your good, but if it was overall majority, then you would have been kicked,
they set it up like this so about all of the other team and at least two people on your team agree to the kick. -
Z8 knows about the abuse of the kickvote system, but they refuse to change it. I have two different support tickets, one from 2011 where the support staff says that they are constantly trying to "improve" the kickvote system and one from 2013 where the support staff says that they have no control over the kickvote system.
2011
2013
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so that means if there is someone kicked you gonna stop playing and check that?
It means, when I am a host and I find votekick apparent hacker failed, I will kick the player who pressed f12 out from my room.
Hackers normally leave the room too quick for host to kick them. So whoever cause the kick failure should be responsible for it. I don't know if the one press f12 ever hacked, but when you apparently want to mess the room up by your irresonsibility, you should be punished.
If you are a new comer and pressed f12 for not knowing what is going on, you can correcct yourself by start another vote. But when you pressed f12 and then did nothing to correct it, I would think you are the supporter for the hackers.
I am the host, so follow my rule, kick the hacker or get yourself kicked also. When players knows what they should do, the votekick can be used in the correct way.
That is my thinking. -
Skittles_XD wrote: »If he was the one kicked, he would not be able to see go kicked him (like how it is right now) I only suggest the "see who f12ed" because they could be a friend who is also cheating or someone supporting said cheater.
I support this idea, and in fact, I am doing it right now. I would notice who has started a vote. If some player just play through the game with apparent hacker in his side, I would kick him right after I kick hackers -- if I am quick enough to catch the hackers.
I don't find any reason why we should let those who pressed f12 for apparent hacker to stay in my room.
If all the forumer do the same, players will learn what they should do soon.
I also want a rule section for each room, host can type their rule so that players can see it before entering a room, also every time a vote comes up, the rule also pop up. They need to think about it. -
How about trying this?
When a person shoots through a wall he's not supposed to.. He instantly gets client. Sure it won't stop all the hackers, but its a step in the correct direction.
That won't work at all....
What i believe, (not 100% sure but....) the way that certain hack is coded, is that there are "no walls" so its as if one of us were to shoot normally
which means if they where to make it client for that certain hack, everyone would get a client just for one tapping a gun, so... no .-. -
I agree.
This way me and a few friends could effectively clear any good players out of a room and steal your aces so much easier.
Imagine being able to kick people with only 2 yes votes.
Best idea in the history of everything ever.
except for the jetpack and grappling hook.
those ideas are even better.
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