a humble, polite suggestion
Existing accounts from SA players should be able to stay, just like EU accounts were allowed to stay after the GameRage deal. No new accounts from IP banned regions, though.
The response is going to be: "not gonna happen because G4Box/Z8Games owns CF AL." Yeah, well, who cares. Just stop the new accounts.
+1 doeee
@MODS: y’all know I feel strongly about CF’s player base (well, as strongly as I can feel about this game, lol). Still, I’ve tried to remain as polite as possible in this thread. I’m not trying to insult anyone, I just want to make a suggestion. Feel free to close it if it derails beyond a reasonable amount, but don’t be oversensitive, please. Thanks broskies.
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Honestly I'm not going to judge a whole group of people or a country based solely on a small group of 9 year olds that probably play in the same Internet cafe day after day. Also I only went with what I could discern from the thread. It was difficult to understand completely what happened.
As for the whole idea, it's about licensing, I think. If it was split into two then you'd be able to have it sold to a different publisher... Then there could be an IP ban of South America.
Same thing with the "rest of the world". There is no license specified to those regions/countries. If companies purchased licensing to those areas then we could IP ban those areas.
As for Swaziland, my speculation about it could be something to do with their government. But I have no idea why that little speck of land is restricted.
All of this is just my pure thoughts on the matter. I would go and actually look up more information via Search. Sorry I guess. -
Honestly I'm not going to judge a whole group of people or a country based solely on a small group of 9 year olds that probably play in the same Internet cafe day after day.
That "small group" is probably a majority of the 150+ ping player base... -
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You don't know that. You're being a little biased there aren't ya? :eek:
You shouldn't be IP banning a country because of their behavior. In my opinion.
You should IP ban a country because having people run around with over 9000 ping isn't fun for anyone... What I stated isn't reason for the ban, but rather reason for a celebratory "good riddance" afterwards. -
Although I agree with this, I will say that I have seen a large group of "low ping" hackers as well. Although I see a larger amount of high pinging players cheating, there are still a good amount of everyday English speaking American/Canadian players that cheat.
Even without playing the game, just looking at cheating websites you can tell that there are cheaters besides the general cheating group that gets biased against. How do I know? Every cheat I have ever seen is in 100% English and encourages everyday "normal gamers" to cheat. It's impossible and completely absurd to put all of the hacking issues on one region, race, ect. -
Dark Beast wrote: »Although I agree with this, I will say that I have seen a large group of "low ping" hackers as well. Although I see a larger amount of high pinging players cheating, there are still a good amount of everyday English speaking American/Canadian players that cheat.
Exactly. We have enough aholes to deal with already. No need for foreign aholes to come in and mess around, too.Dark Beast wrote: »Even without playing the game, just looking at cheating websites you can tell that there are cheaters besides the general cheating group that gets biased against. How do I know? Every cheat I have ever seen is in 100% English and encourages everyday "normal gamers" to cheat. It's impossible and completely absurd to put all of the hacking issues on one region, race, ect.
Ultimately, though, it doesn't matter. The suggestion should carry equal weight (or rather, appeal to NA players) regardless of the hacking situation.
The increase in quality of gameplay should be something that we would desire in any case. Think of the hacking outbursts as global warming. It's a catalyst that reminds people about increasing renewable energy use (in this analogy, banning new foreign accounts). But regardless of global warming (and regardless of whether global warming is even occurring), we should be turning to more efficient energy sources anyway, to improve air quality and quality of life in general. -
Exactly. We have enough aholes to deal with already. No need for foreign aholes to come in and mess around, too.
Ultimately, though, it doesn't matter. The suggestion should carry equal weight (or rather, appeal to NA players) regardless of the hacking situation.
The increase in quality of gameplay should be something that we would desire in any case. Think of the hacking outbursts as global warming. It's a catalyst that reminds people about increasing renewable energy use (in this analogy, banning new foreign accounts). But regardless of global warming (and regardless of whether global warming is even occurring), we should be turning to more efficient energy sources anyway, to improve air quality and quality of life in general.
I'll agree, taking them out of the game would help the situation on cheats and ultimately reduce (to a degree) the overall cheating situation, but again generalizing to an entire group seems a little tough.
HOWEVER, this is the NA version of CF and the Asian population have their own version as well as the European community, possibly taking out the Turks and others. Although it wouldn't be fair to the legitimate Europeans and Asians to remove their account entirely, if there were to be a way to transfer everything over/give generous reimbursement items to those who change games, then I believe we can create a happier CF NA community as well as other CF communities. -
Dark Beast wrote: »I'll agree, taking them out of the game would help the situation on cheats and ultimately reduce (to a degree) the overall cheating situation, but again generalizing to an entire group seems a little tough.
No one's generalizing any group here.Dark Beast wrote: »Although it wouldn't be fair to the legitimate Europeans and Asians to remove their account entirely, if there were to be a way to transfer everything over/give generous reimbursement items to those who change games, then I believe we can create a happier CF NA community as well as other CF communities.
Existing accounts stay. Players who already have accounts in this version should be able to keep playing it as long a they want to.ALLAHDABEST wrote: »The only reason this may not be implemented is because of the network effect.
There are a lot of reasons this won't be implemented. One side effect is an expanded black market for buying/selling accounts. -
You guys aren't going to get rid of me so soon then...
Well, since us, brazillians got our own version (CFAL), i think it should be workable, no one would stay without the game.
Tough, i fear that if this is implemented, other latin americans who do not live so close to the CFAL servers will lose their place in CFNA, as they do not have good pings in either versions (central america, for example, they get about 150ms for both versions). -
No one's generalizing any group here.
Most of the posts that I'm reading, of which may be misunderstood, is based solely on the fact that brs or turks cheat and that getting rid of them would solve the cheating issue, which of course is false to a degree.
Trueeee. In my eyes, blocking regions is somewhat of a useless act. Though seen as a great thing in text, in actuality, people of any unblocked region could easily make an account and make BANK on it selling it to the blocked areas. People will buy accounts to play on and "terrorize" just like they'll buy hacks.There are a lot of reasons this won't be implemented. One side effect is an expanded black market for buying/selling accounts. -
Dark Beast wrote: »Most of the posts that I'm reading, of which may be misunderstood, is based solely on the fact that brs or turks cheat and that getting rid of them would solve the cheating issue, which of course is false to a degree.
Trueeee. In my eyes, blocking regions is somewhat of a useless act. Though seen as a great thing in text, in actuality, people of any unblocked region could easily make an account and make BANK on it selling it to the blocked areas. People will buy accounts to play on and "terrorize" just like they'll buy hacks.
If the intention is to stop Latino hackers, this will work since even though tons of people sell accounts, it is a limited number because of the IP ban. If they hack, they will get banned and they cannot create new accounts. As time passes, there will be less and less latino hackers. -
ALLAHDABEST wrote: »If the intention is to stop Latino hackers, this will work since even though tons of people sell accounts, it is a limited number because of the IP ban. If they hack, they will get banned and they cannot create new accounts. As time passes, there will be less and less latino hackers.
Tough i know at least 5 programs that can camo your ip so it looks like an american ip for the servers.
How the heck do you think so many brazillians got into arctic combat? -
ALLAHDABEST wrote: »If the intention is to stop Latino hackers, this will work since even though tons of people sell accounts, it is a limited number because of the IP ban. If they hack, they will get banned and they cannot create new accounts. As time passes, there will be less and less latino hackers.
This is the generalization that I was referring to. Also, the hackers would not have to create new accounts if they have a friend in a different area that remains unblocked by the system to create it for them. Once created, the account can be passed to the blocked area and played on because it was already created. The only thing that the blocked areas can't do is create accounts, but they CAN play on already created accounts. -
Dark Beast wrote: »This is the generalization that I was referring to. Also, the hackers would not have to create new accounts if they have a friend in a different area that remains unblocked by the system to create it for them. Once created, the account can be passed to the blocked area and played on because it was already created. The only thing that the blocked areas can't do is create accounts, but they CAN play on already created accounts.
Wow, never thought aboot this! -
Dark Beast wrote: »This is the generalization that I was referring to. Also, the hackers would not have to create new accounts if they have a friend in a different area that remains unblocked by the system to create it for them. Once created, the account can be passed to the blocked area and played on because it was already created. The only thing that the blocked areas can't do is create accounts, but they CAN play on already created accounts.
Well, even we NA players are constantly getting b*tched at about account sharing. Let Z8 stick to their word.
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