M4 and ScarLight full comparison

Video covers:

Spray patterns
2 shot burst
3 shot burst
4 shot burst
Reload time
Spray time
3 shot tapping

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSoEkzGXmLg

Comments

  • Shoulda done the bursts farther away, but the scar light still ****s at it lol
  • You're still lacking footage of all that while moving, as well as you only have 2 examples of the spray, it should be more than that considering the M4 can cross anywhere from 0 times to 2 times. It's good to see people doing testing of their own, but unless they do it properly then you could be getting misleading information :O

    Regardless, I'll explain why the Scar appears to have a much lower burst recovery rate than the M4, at least while standing still. It is because, while standing still that is, the SL does not apply recoil to its second shot. It applies the recoil and whatnot at very similar or the same values as the M4, but only after the second bullet while you are standing still.

    Does this mean the Scar has an advantage over the M4 when short bursting/standing still? Yes. However, when you compare the spray of both guns, the SL spray is much less dependable than the M4s. Although the two guns have fairly similar spray patterns, from what I can remember from the testing I did, the M4 has a much tighter bullet difference than the Scar did. And that includes the initial rise of the shots. This puts the M4 at an advantage when you're 5-6 shot bursting. And that's not even looking into anything that involves movement patterns.

    I can't remember, but I know that the M4 has the potential to cross 0 times when it's spraying, and I'm not sure if the Scar has that potential. If someone could clarify that, I'd appreciate it.
  • but snipes you arent even attending this lan why should you care
  • Denxi wrote: »
    You're still lacking footage of all that while moving, as well as you only have 2 examples of the spray, it should be more than that considering the M4 can cross anywhere from 0 times to 2 times. It's good to see people doing testing of their own, but unless they do it properly then you could be getting misleading information :O

    Regardless, I'll explain why the Scar appears to have a much lower burst recovery rate than the M4, at least while standing still. It is because, while standing still that is, the SL does not apply recoil to its second shot. It applies the recoil and whatnot at very similar or the same values as the M4, but only after the second bullet while you are standing still.

    Does this mean the Scar has an advantage over the M4 when short bursting/standing still? Yes. However, when you compare the spray of both guns, the SL spray is much less dependable than the M4s. Although the two guns have fairly similar spray patterns, from what I can remember from the testing I did, the M4 has a much tighter bullet difference than the Scar did. And that includes the initial rise of the shots. This puts the M4 at an advantage when you're 5-6 shot bursting. And that's not even looking into anything that involves movement patterns.

    I can't remember, but I know that the M4 has the potential to cross 0 times when it's spraying, and I'm not sure if the Scar has that potential. If someone could clarify that, I'd appreciate it.

    Denxi if u havent notices it only says "Comparison" this is not a thread saying that SL is OP it is just simply showing you how the 2 guns perform, you don't need to type a novel explaining you don't see the difference and your lacking footage when he is not even complaining about the rules, this is simply a comparison video not a SL is OP video
  • Dallann wrote: »
    Denxi if u havent notices it only says "Comparison" this is not a thread saying that SL is OP it is just simply showing you how the 2 guns perform, you don't need to type a novel explaining you don't see the difference and your lacking footage when he is not even complaining about the rules, this is simply a comparison video not a SL is OP video

    I never said it was. My post contained multiple things, however comparing the gun to a very similar gun, aka the M4, allowed to expand upon the differences that do exist. Something this video was doing as well :O
  • Just ask snitchez . He went 26-6 in a e8 pub last night with a scar light. The gun's op, everyone knows it.

    Thanks for the comparison video.
  • Blake_P wrote: »
    Just ask snitchez . He went 26-6 in a e8 pub last night with a scar light. The gun's op, everyone knows it.

    Thanks for the comparison video.

    Doing good in a pub doesn't mean a guns OP. I could do that with an M4/AK/AUG/SG/AWM, would it mean all those are OP to? ~.0
  • Blake_P wrote: »
    Just ask snitchez . He went 26-6 in a e8 pub last night with a scar light. The gun's op, everyone knows it.

    Thanks for the comparison video.

    So just because someone went 26-6 in an E8 PUB!!! means that the gun they were using was too OP?

    Seems legit.
  • Doing good in a pub doesn't mean a guns OP. I could do that with an M4/AK/AUG/SG/AWM, would it mean all those are OP to? ~.0

    M4/AK/AUG/SG/AWM Are op weapons too. The most used guns in the game.
  • Blake_P wrote: »
    M4/AK/AUG/SG/AWM Are op weapons too. The most used guns in the game.

    So if every gun in the game is OP, why not just allow everything?
  • So if every gun in the game is OP, why not just allow everything?

    Seems like they already have.
    http://fglan.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=43&Itemid=143&lang=en

    I'm not saying every gun in the game is op. The ones you listed are op guns and overused.
  • A bad player with a scar light isn't going to beat a good player with an M4.

    If you're good don't worry about what gun the other player has.
  • Blake_P wrote: »
    Seems like they already have.
    http://fglan.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=43&Itemid=143&lang=en

    I'm not saying every gun in the game is op. The ones you listed are op guns and overused.

    so if m4 is a OP gun why cant u own ppl alot ? I assume that only you think the m4 is OP. OP = over power so that mean it should be very easy to use , but is the m4 that easy to use ? It is overused cause it is a balance gun not because it is OP so ppl use it. Please tell me how m4 is a OP gun when you the guy who said so can not show it a OP gun , I think I see you with a m4 before , not that OP at all :D , SL + M12s on the other hand , is so much easier to play with so ppl listed them as a OP guns so big leagues like WCG banned those guns ^.^
  • Throne_LK wrote: »
    so if m4 is a OP gun why cant u own ppl alot ? I assume that only you think the m4 is OP. OP = over power so that mean it should be very easy to use , but is the m4 that easy to use ? It is overused cause it is a balance gun not because it is OP so ppl use it. Please tell me how m4 is a OP gun when you the guy who said so can not show it a OP gun , I think I see you with a m4 before , not that OP at all :D , SL + M12s on the other hand , is so much easier to play with so ppl listed them as a OP guns so big leagues like WCG banned those guns ^.^



    They banned them for no reason in WoGL
    Just to promote gun variety


    The Scar Light and the m4 are excatly the same gun d00d





    Just the Scar Light recoils 1 bullet later



    Which is worse because when you neckshot a 2-burst the bullet doesn't automatically go up



    The m4 does more damage per second than the m12s
    It's better close range


    And it's vastly better long range
  • DoubleARE wrote: »
    They banned them for no reason in WoGL
    Just to promote gun variety


    The Scar Light and the m4 are excatly the same gun d00d





    Just the Scar Light recoils 1 bullet later



    Which is worse because when you neckshot a 2-burst the bullet doesn't automatically go up



    The m4 does more damage per second than the m12s
    It's better close range


    And it's vastly better long range

    ^

    I've been using the SL in pubs/scrims for the past few days, and honestly it doesn't seem too OP. The M4 is much easier to spray and better at long range. The only thing better about SL than M4 is the RoF and reload time.

    M12s will be ridiculous on maps like mexico, but most of the maps are long range so it will be useless. Only thing I don't like about the M12s is it's sound, it annoys the crap out of me.
  • ^

    I've been using the SL in pubs/scrims for the past few days, and honestly it doesn't seem too OP. The M4 is much easier to spray and better at long range. The only thing better about SL than M4 is the RoF and reload time.

    M12s will be ridiculous on maps like mexico, but most of the maps are long range so it will be useless. Only thing I don't like about the M12s is it's sound, it annoys the crap out of me.

    The rate of fire is the same for both the Scar Light and the M4




    And the AK / m4 both do more damage per second than the m12 at close range