PDF vs Str8Wrecked Commentators: Critique
This is going to be a rather harsh critique of your commentary, but I'm only giving them to you straight-up so you have a chance to improve. I'm not going to sugar-coat it for you, but neither am I saying this to be a total ******.
Note: I mention being / sounding more or less "professional" a lot. This is not a professional stream, and I am aware of that. However, striving for professionalism is rarely a bad thing.
I typed these as I listened to the commentary.
1. Don't start the stream until you have both teams there. Down-time only makes the stream impatient, and the viewers annoyed. If you do want to start the stream early on (i.e. before both teams are completely there), I suggest having the two team high-fraggers 1v1 in the downtime, waiting on the rest of the team to get there. This can give you a bit of talk during the game too, getting more in-depth in the commentary.
2. No ****ing shout-outs for random people. They are awful, pointless, and annoying. If you want to thank anyone, thank the SPONSOR/S, the STREAMER, and/or the TOURNAMENT HOST/S. Nobody else needs mentioned outside of the two teams.
3. Do not stay in a random vent channel. The COMMENTATOR or COMMENTATORS should be the only ones even heard, the entire stream.
4. You don't need to get in-depth with all of their **** talking. It's enough to say that tensions are high, and to mention the key players involved in the trash-talking. Going in-depth with your clearly biased and annoying paraphrasing is worthless to the commentary, and takes away from the overall streaming experience.
5. Taking a few seconds or so to talk about the fundamentals of the map you're playing can really give your commentary an air of professionalism and expertise. Even if you're completely wrong as to how the game plays out (i.e. if you say that Mexico is typically known for its battles over the mid courtyard, and every single round BL pushes water), you then generate a large amount of INTELLIGENT commentary over the gameplay.
6. If you are not the streamer, you need to mention FREQUENTLY who are you viewing. It doesn't have to be something annoyingly obvious as "now viewing...", but you should LET YOUR STREAMER KNOW who you are talking about. Things like "Let's hop on with _____", "taking a look at ______'s POV", and etc. It makes the streamer's job nearly impossible if you don't do this. TAKE CHARGE.
7. "Let's see if they can come back from this"...I mean, what? THEY ARE DOWN ONE ROUND... Then, instead of using the time to explain the problems / breakdowns with / of that round, you just brushed over the first hint of intelligent commentary that you had so far ("it's a GR sided map"...EXPLAIN. COMMENTATE, don't just highlight what the players are doing). Talk about the changes that GR makes (while I liked how you said they were playing more passive; an improvement would be to use the downtime to elaborate on the places they are playing: "...more passive in A site, now playing from behind the tractor instead of up near alley, with CHRISS over there actually playing more aggressive into the water region"...it doesn't take a lot of elaboration, just enough to let the viewers get a feel for what's going on).
8. I CANNOT STRESS THE NO SHOUT-OUTS ENOUGH. A complete turn-off for anyone who doesn't know the people shouted-out.
9. When the play is going slow, don't let that slow down the commentary. Use the down-time to provide things such as a roster-rundown (some background information on the players, what they're known for, what they're using, where they like to play), more map commentary, the benefits of playing picks as Black List on that particular map, etc. Then, when the action starts, you can up the TONE of your commentary a bit more, but your tempo should never slow more than a little bit. That is another turn-off for the viewer; silent commentators.
For any Americans reading this, I'll use the following analogy; Football commentators never sit there and go "They're huddling..." followed by 20 seconds of silence, followed by "Oh, he snapped the ball! We can start commentating again!"
10. "AC". Don't use your own pet names for certain spots unless you are 100% certain that everyone calls it that. AC? What the **** is that? If you want to call it something, briefly describe where you mean so that your viewers know what you're talking about.
11. "They". No. Never. Never ever. Ever. "They" is awful to hear, to experience, to say. "They"? Who the **** is "they"? Unless you have just mentioned a team name, or a pair of players by name, scrap "they" from your vocabulary. "They have pushed up water again." How hard is it to say two players' names? It takes half a second. "Chriss and Roy pushing out of water again".
12. Which brings me to another point; make everything PRESENT tense when you're commentating anything they are currently engaged in. Never past tense. "They pushed out of water again." Pushed? What, when? They ARE pushing. That's another one of those things which engages the viewer; it puts them in the moment. "as Lee tries to get a headshot on to Phil, Phil luckily drops down into alleyway as Lee moves in for the kill..." sounds a hell of a lot more engaging than "Lee tried to get a headshot onto Phil, but Phill luckily dropped down into alleyway as Lee moved in for the kill..." It's something that comes with experience, but it's still something you should try to work on.
13. Link actions together. Words such as (hah) "as", "while", "and", "but", "so", "during" and "if he can ______, then _____" are your friends. They engage the viewer further, and really can help your commentary flow together. "Diverse takes out Rob. *pause* "Erick gets the trade." Conjunctions are there for a reason. "Diverse takes out Rob AS Erick turns around, getting the trade, but one rotating from the quad boxes now, potentially pinching the bomb carrier."
14. Which brings me to yet another point. "The guy with the bomb"? Really? BOMB-CARRIER. They mean the same thing, but one sounds a hell of a lot more professional.
15. Mid-round, don't call just that teammates are "meeting up". I suppose this would fall under a vaguer category of over-focusing? Call where a team is rotating from, where the GR members are playing, etc. Basically, be intelligent even mid-round; don't degenerate into just action-describing.
16. Don't blandly agree with your co-commentator when they make an insightful comment. "They need to change something to start picking up rounds." "Yeah they do." Like, what? COMMENTATE. Anything is better than bland agreement. "I agree, they maybe need to start playing more passive / locking down water / maybe try an aggressive push water to prevent the forays there" or "what do you think they could do?" ANYTHING is better than bland agreement. Yes, they shifted their setup the very next round and saved the commentary a little in that regard, but it's still something you could improve on.
17. I didn't notice this until this point in the game...but make sure the streamer is viewing things with the gun in Right-handed mode. Yeah, several people play left-handed gunner, but it's more common to see it on the right.
18. You guys did a good job keeping up with the action in this round (round 4-0 in favour of BL), especially with how much went down, but it still could be better. Add a bit more information, and you'll be golden. "Takes him down AS he pushes ______, so now it's up to..."
19. When a team snaps a losing streak mid-game, talk about what they did to break it, mistakes the other team made (there's a huge difference between winning because you changed your setup and because you hit an amazing shot; TALK ABOUT IT).
20. I loved it when you finally started talking informational things in the down-times you had, but when you did you left out the action! They just snapped their losing streak and are now in a 1v3 situation again! This is huge, could really shut down any hopes they had at momentum, etc. etc. Intelligent commentating is about balance.
Your stream cut out after that point, and continued hours afterward (it missed all of the Second half, Mexico and all of First half, Factory).
Note: I mention being / sounding more or less "professional" a lot. This is not a professional stream, and I am aware of that. However, striving for professionalism is rarely a bad thing.
I typed these as I listened to the commentary.
1. Don't start the stream until you have both teams there. Down-time only makes the stream impatient, and the viewers annoyed. If you do want to start the stream early on (i.e. before both teams are completely there), I suggest having the two team high-fraggers 1v1 in the downtime, waiting on the rest of the team to get there. This can give you a bit of talk during the game too, getting more in-depth in the commentary.
2. No ****ing shout-outs for random people. They are awful, pointless, and annoying. If you want to thank anyone, thank the SPONSOR/S, the STREAMER, and/or the TOURNAMENT HOST/S. Nobody else needs mentioned outside of the two teams.
3. Do not stay in a random vent channel. The COMMENTATOR or COMMENTATORS should be the only ones even heard, the entire stream.
4. You don't need to get in-depth with all of their **** talking. It's enough to say that tensions are high, and to mention the key players involved in the trash-talking. Going in-depth with your clearly biased and annoying paraphrasing is worthless to the commentary, and takes away from the overall streaming experience.
5. Taking a few seconds or so to talk about the fundamentals of the map you're playing can really give your commentary an air of professionalism and expertise. Even if you're completely wrong as to how the game plays out (i.e. if you say that Mexico is typically known for its battles over the mid courtyard, and every single round BL pushes water), you then generate a large amount of INTELLIGENT commentary over the gameplay.
6. If you are not the streamer, you need to mention FREQUENTLY who are you viewing. It doesn't have to be something annoyingly obvious as "now viewing...", but you should LET YOUR STREAMER KNOW who you are talking about. Things like "Let's hop on with _____", "taking a look at ______'s POV", and etc. It makes the streamer's job nearly impossible if you don't do this. TAKE CHARGE.
7. "Let's see if they can come back from this"...I mean, what? THEY ARE DOWN ONE ROUND... Then, instead of using the time to explain the problems / breakdowns with / of that round, you just brushed over the first hint of intelligent commentary that you had so far ("it's a GR sided map"...EXPLAIN. COMMENTATE, don't just highlight what the players are doing). Talk about the changes that GR makes (while I liked how you said they were playing more passive; an improvement would be to use the downtime to elaborate on the places they are playing: "...more passive in A site, now playing from behind the tractor instead of up near alley, with CHRISS over there actually playing more aggressive into the water region"...it doesn't take a lot of elaboration, just enough to let the viewers get a feel for what's going on).
8. I CANNOT STRESS THE NO SHOUT-OUTS ENOUGH. A complete turn-off for anyone who doesn't know the people shouted-out.
9. When the play is going slow, don't let that slow down the commentary. Use the down-time to provide things such as a roster-rundown (some background information on the players, what they're known for, what they're using, where they like to play), more map commentary, the benefits of playing picks as Black List on that particular map, etc. Then, when the action starts, you can up the TONE of your commentary a bit more, but your tempo should never slow more than a little bit. That is another turn-off for the viewer; silent commentators.
For any Americans reading this, I'll use the following analogy; Football commentators never sit there and go "They're huddling..." followed by 20 seconds of silence, followed by "Oh, he snapped the ball! We can start commentating again!"
10. "AC". Don't use your own pet names for certain spots unless you are 100% certain that everyone calls it that. AC? What the **** is that? If you want to call it something, briefly describe where you mean so that your viewers know what you're talking about.
11. "They". No. Never. Never ever. Ever. "They" is awful to hear, to experience, to say. "They"? Who the **** is "they"? Unless you have just mentioned a team name, or a pair of players by name, scrap "they" from your vocabulary. "They have pushed up water again." How hard is it to say two players' names? It takes half a second. "Chriss and Roy pushing out of water again".
12. Which brings me to another point; make everything PRESENT tense when you're commentating anything they are currently engaged in. Never past tense. "They pushed out of water again." Pushed? What, when? They ARE pushing. That's another one of those things which engages the viewer; it puts them in the moment. "as Lee tries to get a headshot on to Phil, Phil luckily drops down into alleyway as Lee moves in for the kill..." sounds a hell of a lot more engaging than "Lee tried to get a headshot onto Phil, but Phill luckily dropped down into alleyway as Lee moved in for the kill..." It's something that comes with experience, but it's still something you should try to work on.
13. Link actions together. Words such as (hah) "as", "while", "and", "but", "so", "during" and "if he can ______, then _____" are your friends. They engage the viewer further, and really can help your commentary flow together. "Diverse takes out Rob. *pause* "Erick gets the trade." Conjunctions are there for a reason. "Diverse takes out Rob AS Erick turns around, getting the trade, but one rotating from the quad boxes now, potentially pinching the bomb carrier."
14. Which brings me to yet another point. "The guy with the bomb"? Really? BOMB-CARRIER. They mean the same thing, but one sounds a hell of a lot more professional.
15. Mid-round, don't call just that teammates are "meeting up". I suppose this would fall under a vaguer category of over-focusing? Call where a team is rotating from, where the GR members are playing, etc. Basically, be intelligent even mid-round; don't degenerate into just action-describing.
16. Don't blandly agree with your co-commentator when they make an insightful comment. "They need to change something to start picking up rounds." "Yeah they do." Like, what? COMMENTATE. Anything is better than bland agreement. "I agree, they maybe need to start playing more passive / locking down water / maybe try an aggressive push water to prevent the forays there" or "what do you think they could do?" ANYTHING is better than bland agreement. Yes, they shifted their setup the very next round and saved the commentary a little in that regard, but it's still something you could improve on.
17. I didn't notice this until this point in the game...but make sure the streamer is viewing things with the gun in Right-handed mode. Yeah, several people play left-handed gunner, but it's more common to see it on the right.
18. You guys did a good job keeping up with the action in this round (round 4-0 in favour of BL), especially with how much went down, but it still could be better. Add a bit more information, and you'll be golden. "Takes him down AS he pushes ______, so now it's up to..."
19. When a team snaps a losing streak mid-game, talk about what they did to break it, mistakes the other team made (there's a huge difference between winning because you changed your setup and because you hit an amazing shot; TALK ABOUT IT).
20. I loved it when you finally started talking informational things in the down-times you had, but when you did you left out the action! They just snapped their losing streak and are now in a 1v3 situation again! This is huge, could really shut down any hopes they had at momentum, etc. etc. Intelligent commentating is about balance.
Your stream cut out after that point, and continued hours afterward (it missed all of the Second half, Mexico and all of First half, Factory).
Comments
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This is going to be a rather harsh critique of your commentary, but I'm only giving them to you straight-up so you have a chance to improve. I'm not going to sugar-coat it for you, but neither am I saying this to be a total ******.
Note: I mention being / sounding more or less "professional" a lot. This is not a professional stream, and I am aware of that. However, striving for professionalism is rarely a bad thing.
I typed these as I listened to the commentary.
1. Don't start the stream until you have both teams there. Down-time only makes the stream impatient, and the viewers annoyed. If you do want to start the stream early on (i.e. before both teams are completely there), I suggest having the two team high-fraggers 1v1 in the downtime, waiting on the rest of the team to get there. This can give you a bit of talk during the game too, getting more in-depth in the commentary.
2. No ****ing shout-outs for random people. They are awful, pointless, and annoying. If you want to thank anyone, thank the SPONSOR/S, the STREAMER, and/or the TOURNAMENT HOST/S. Nobody else needs mentioned outside of the two teams.
3. Do not stay in a random vent channel. The COMMENTATOR or COMMENTATORS should be the only ones even heard, the entire stream.
4. You don't need to get in-depth with all of their **** talking. It's enough to say that tensions are high, and to mention the key players involved in the trash-talking. Going in-depth with your clearly biased and annoying paraphrasing is worthless to the commentary, and takes away from the overall streaming experience.
5. Taking a few seconds or so to talk about the fundamentals of the map you're playing can really give your commentary an air of professionalism and expertise. Even if you're completely wrong as to how the game plays out (i.e. if you say that Mexico is typically known for its battles over the mid courtyard, and every single round BL pushes water), you then generate a large amount of INTELLIGENT commentary over the gameplay.
6. If you are not the streamer, you need to mention FREQUENTLY who are you viewing. It doesn't have to be something annoyingly obvious as "now viewing...", but you should LET YOUR STREAMER KNOW who you are talking about. Things like "Let's hop on with _____", "taking a look at ______'s POV", and etc. It makes the streamer's job nearly impossible if you don't do this. TAKE CHARGE.
7. "Let's see if they can come back from this"...I mean, what? THEY ARE DOWN ONE ROUND... Then, instead of using the time to explain the problems / breakdowns with / of that round, you just brushed over the first hint of intelligent commentary that you had so far ("it's a GR sided map"...EXPLAIN. COMMENTATE, don't just highlight what the players are doing). Talk about the changes that GR makes (while I liked how you said they were playing more passive; an improvement would be to use the downtime to elaborate on the places they are playing: "...more passive in A site, now playing from behind the tractor instead of up near alley, with CHRISS over there actually playing more aggressive into the water region"...it doesn't take a lot of elaboration, just enough to let the viewers get a feel for what's going on).
8. I CANNOT STRESS THE NO SHOUT-OUTS ENOUGH. A complete turn-off for anyone who doesn't know the people shouted-out.
9. When the play is going slow, don't let that slow down the commentary. Use the down-time to provide things such as a roster-rundown (some background information on the players, what they're known for, what they're using, where they like to play), more map commentary, the benefits of playing picks as Black List on that particular map, etc. Then, when the action starts, you can up the TONE of your commentary a bit more, but your tempo should never slow more than a little bit. That is another turn-off for the viewer; silent commentators.
For any Americans reading this, I'll use the following analogy; Football commentators never sit there and go "They're huddling..." followed by 20 seconds of silence, followed by "Oh, he snapped the ball! We can start commentating again!"
10. "AC". Don't use your own pet names for certain spots unless you are 100% certain that everyone calls it that. AC? What the **** is that? If you want to call it something, briefly describe where you mean so that your viewers know what you're talking about.
11. "They". No. Never. Never ever. Ever. "They" is awful to hear, to experience, to say. "They"? Who the **** is "they"? Unless you have just mentioned a team name, or a pair of players by name, scrap "they" from your vocabulary. "They have pushed up water again." How hard is it to say two players' names? It takes half a second. "Chriss and Roy pushing out of water again".
12. Which brings me to another point; make everything PRESENT tense when you're commentating anything they are currently engaged in. Never past tense. "They pushed out of water again." Pushed? What, when? They ARE pushing. That's another one of those things which engages the viewer; it puts them in the moment. "as Lee tries to get a headshot on to Phil, Phil luckily drops down into alleyway as Lee moves in for the kill..." sounds a hell of a lot more engaging than "Lee tried to get a headshot onto Phil, but Phill luckily dropped down into alleyway as Lee moved in for the kill..." It's something that comes with experience, but it's still something you should try to work on.
13. Link actions together. Words such as (hah) "as", "while", "and", "but", "so", "during" and "if he can ______, then _____" are your friends. They engage the viewer further, and really can help your commentary flow together. "Diverse takes out Rob. *pause* "Erick gets the trade." Conjunctions are there for a reason. "Diverse takes out Rob AS Erick turns around, getting the trade, but one rotating from the quad boxes now, potentially pinching the bomb carrier."
14. Which brings me to yet another point. "The guy with the bomb"? Really? BOMB-CARRIER. They mean the same thing, but one sounds a hell of a lot more professional.
15. Mid-round, don't call just that teammates are "meeting up". I suppose this would fall under a vaguer category of over-focusing? Call where a team is rotating from, where the GR members are playing, etc. Basically, be intelligent even mid-round; don't degenerate into just action-describing.
16. Don't blandly agree with your co-commentator when they make an insightful comment. "They need to change something to start picking up rounds." "Yeah they do." Like, what? COMMENTATE. Anything is better than bland agreement. "I agree, they maybe need to start playing more passive / locking down water / maybe try an aggressive push water to prevent the forays there" or "what do you think they could do?" ANYTHING is better than bland agreement. Yes, they shifted their setup the very next round and saved the commentary a little in that regard, but it's still something you could improve on.
17. I didn't notice this until this point in the game...but make sure the streamer is viewing things with the gun in Right-handed mode. Yeah, several people play left-handed gunner, but it's more common to see it on the right.
18. You guys did a good job keeping up with the action in this round (round 4-0 in favour of BL), especially with how much went down, but it still could be better. Add a bit more information, and you'll be golden. "Takes him down AS he pushes ______, so now it's up to..."
19. When a team snaps a losing streak mid-game, talk about what they did to break it, mistakes the other team made (there's a huge difference between winning because you changed your setup and because you hit an amazing shot; TALK ABOUT IT).
20. I loved it when you finally started talking informational things in the down-times you had, but when you did you left out the action! They just snapped their losing streak and are now in a 1v3 situation again! This is huge, could really shut down any hopes they had at momentum, etc. etc. Intelligent commentating is about balance.
Your stream cut out after that point, and continued hours afterward (it missed all of the Second half, Mexico and all of First half, Factory).
wtf... so long... -
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This is going to be a rather harsh critique of your commentary, but I'm only giving them to you straight-up so you have a chance to improve. I'm not going to sugar-coat it for you, but neither am I saying this to be a total ******.
Note: I mention being / sounding more or less "professional" a lot. This is not a professional stream, and I am aware of that. However, striving for professionalism is rarely a bad thing.
I typed these as I listened to the commentary.
1. Don't start the stream until you have both teams there. Down-time only makes the stream impatient, and the viewers annoyed. If you do want to start the stream early on (i.e. before both teams are completely there), I suggest having the two team high-fraggers 1v1 in the downtime, waiting on the rest of the team to get there. This can give you a bit of talk during the game too, getting more in-depth in the commentary.
2. No ****ing shout-outs for random people. They are awful, pointless, and annoying. If you want to thank anyone, thank the SPONSOR/S, the STREAMER, and/or the TOURNAMENT HOST/S. Nobody else needs mentioned outside of the two teams.
3. Do not stay in a random vent channel. The COMMENTATOR or COMMENTATORS should be the only ones even heard, the entire stream.
4. You don't need to get in-depth with all of their **** talking. It's enough to say that tensions are high, and to mention the key players involved in the trash-talking. Going in-depth with your clearly biased and annoying paraphrasing is worthless to the commentary, and takes away from the overall streaming experience.
5. Taking a few seconds or so to talk about the fundamentals of the map you're playing can really give your commentary an air of professionalism and expertise. Even if you're completely wrong as to how the game plays out (i.e. if you say that Mexico is typically known for its battles over the mid courtyard, and every single round BL pushes water), you then generate a large amount of INTELLIGENT commentary over the gameplay.
6. If you are not the streamer, you need to mention FREQUENTLY who are you viewing. It doesn't have to be something annoyingly obvious as "now viewing...", but you should LET YOUR STREAMER KNOW who you are talking about. Things like "Let's hop on with _____", "taking a look at ______'s POV", and etc. It makes the streamer's job nearly impossible if you don't do this. TAKE CHARGE.
7. "Let's see if they can come back from this"...I mean, what? THEY ARE DOWN ONE ROUND... Then, instead of using the time to explain the problems / breakdowns with / of that round, you just brushed over the first hint of intelligent commentary that you had so far ("it's a GR sided map"...EXPLAIN. COMMENTATE, don't just highlight what the players are doing). Talk about the changes that GR makes (while I liked how you said they were playing more passive; an improvement would be to use the downtime to elaborate on the places they are playing: "...more passive in A site, now playing from behind the tractor instead of up near alley, with CHRISS over there actually playing more aggressive into the water region"...it doesn't take a lot of elaboration, just enough to let the viewers get a feel for what's going on).
8. I CANNOT STRESS THE NO SHOUT-OUTS ENOUGH. A complete turn-off for anyone who doesn't know the people shouted-out.
9. When the play is going slow, don't let that slow down the commentary. Use the down-time to provide things such as a roster-rundown (some background information on the players, what they're known for, what they're using, where they like to play), more map commentary, the benefits of playing picks as Black List on that particular map, etc. Then, when the action starts, you can up the TONE of your commentary a bit more, but your tempo should never slow more than a little bit. That is another turn-off for the viewer; silent commentators.
For any Americans reading this, I'll use the following analogy; Football commentators never sit there and go "They're huddling..." followed by 20 seconds of silence, followed by "Oh, he snapped the ball! We can start commentating again!"
10. "AC". Don't use your own pet names for certain spots unless you are 100% certain that everyone calls it that. AC? What the **** is that? If you want to call it something, briefly describe where you mean so that your viewers know what you're talking about.
11. "They". No. Never. Never ever. Ever. "They" is awful to hear, to experience, to say. "They"? Who the **** is "they"? Unless you have just mentioned a team name, or a pair of players by name, scrap "they" from your vocabulary. "They have pushed up water again." How hard is it to say two players' names? It takes half a second. "Chriss and Roy pushing out of water again".
12. Which brings me to another point; make everything PRESENT tense when you're commentating anything they are currently engaged in. Never past tense. "They pushed out of water again." Pushed? What, when? They ARE pushing. That's another one of those things which engages the viewer; it puts them in the moment. "as Lee tries to get a headshot on to Phil, Phil luckily drops down into alleyway as Lee moves in for the kill..." sounds a hell of a lot more engaging than "Lee tried to get a headshot onto Phil, but Phill luckily dropped down into alleyway as Lee moved in for the kill..." It's something that comes with experience, but it's still something you should try to work on.
13. Link actions together. Words such as (hah) "as", "while", "and", "but", "so", "during" and "if he can ______, then _____" are your friends. They engage the viewer further, and really can help your commentary flow together. "Diverse takes out Rob. *pause* "Erick gets the trade." Conjunctions are there for a reason. "Diverse takes out Rob AS Erick turns around, getting the trade, but one rotating from the quad boxes now, potentially pinching the bomb carrier."
14. Which brings me to yet another point. "The guy with the bomb"? Really? BOMB-CARRIER. They mean the same thing, but one sounds a hell of a lot more professional.
15. Mid-round, don't call just that teammates are "meeting up". I suppose this would fall under a vaguer category of over-focusing? Call where a team is rotating from, where the GR members are playing, etc. Basically, be intelligent even mid-round; don't degenerate into just action-describing.
16. Don't blandly agree with your co-commentator when they make an insightful comment. "They need to change something to start picking up rounds." "Yeah they do." Like, what? COMMENTATE. Anything is better than bland agreement. "I agree, they maybe need to start playing more passive / locking down water / maybe try an aggressive push water to prevent the forays there" or "what do you think they could do?" ANYTHING is better than bland agreement. Yes, they shifted their setup the very next round and saved the commentary a little in that regard, but it's still something you could improve on.
17. I didn't notice this until this point in the game...but make sure the streamer is viewing things with the gun in Right-handed mode. Yeah, several people play left-handed gunner, but it's more common to see it on the right.
18. You guys did a good job keeping up with the action in this round (round 4-0 in favour of BL), especially with how much went down, but it still could be better. Add a bit more information, and you'll be golden. "Takes him down AS he pushes ______, so now it's up to..."
19. When a team snaps a losing streak mid-game, talk about what they did to break it, mistakes the other team made (there's a huge difference between winning because you changed your setup and because you hit an amazing shot; TALK ABOUT IT).
20. I loved it when you finally started talking informational things in the down-times you had, but when you did you left out the action! They just snapped their losing streak and are now in a 1v3 situation again! This is huge, could really shut down any hopes they had at momentum, etc. etc. Intelligent commentating is about balance.
Your stream cut out after that point, and continued hours afterward (it missed all of the Second half, Mexico and all of First half, Factory).
bro you take it too seriously we are not professional casters we just did it for the fun and to make it interesting if you got a problem? how about you cast? ****ing f@goot SHOTS FIRED -
calvinkleinn wrote: »You care about this a bit too much, it's creepy.
#lastminutecasterskausdiuaidas wrote: »wtf... so long...
TL;DR
That was longer than all of my english essays criticizing young casters in a f2P FPS?
Bro
Do you think we make a living off casting CrossFire? O_o
Wow.
You sir are one authentic keyboard warrior.
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tool_chriss wrote: »It wasn't even worth casting, I don't think it would be possible to make that game interesting, especially when you have casters that aren't professionals.
this
However, I didn't think the casting was good. Bruce is a better caster. -
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bro you take it too seriously we are not professional casters we just did it for the fun and to make it interesting if you got a problem? how about you cast? ****ing f@goot SHOTS FIRED
Honestly it was bearable, it wast the best and wasn't the worst, at least they had the nuts to cast it last minute. Id rather have them cast than have to sit through another cast like Jello vs. TriggerHappy, that was bad. Props to drelz and mattman for the stream/cast. -
As far as the quality of the stream goes... I've told people from the start it isn't going to be great. I volunteered so what you see is what you get. I assure you when I get a new computer though it will be quite lovely quality, as in 720p or even higher.
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MattManFPS wrote: »As far as the quality of the stream goes... I've told people from the start it isn't going to be great. I volunteered so what you see is what you get. I assure you when I get a new computer though it will be quite lovely quality, as in 720p or even higher.
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10. "AC". Don't use your own pet names for certain spots unless you are 100% certain that everyone calls it that. AC? What the **** is that? If you want to call it something, briefly describe where you mean so that your viewers know what you're talking about.
Great advice, pointers, and critique but I think the majority of people know what "AC" and "BC" are. However, you do have a good point, at least to start you should say "A Connect known as AC" and call it AC from then on. -
He has no correct points, blowing a chill, fun cast way out of proportion.Great advice, pointers, and critique but I think the majority of people know what "AC" and "BC" are. However, you do have a good point, at least to start you should say "A Connect known as AC" and call it AC from then on.
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you guys are a bunch of assh0les lmao. i didn't watch the cast nor plan to watch a bunch of mediocre players fooling around but this guy has a point(s). None of you are professional but if you're doing something why not do it well...
@OP half of what you said depends on the personality of the person who is casting. Considering this is competitive CF I assume the majority of the kids here are anti-social so for them to be well-spoken is a bit too much to ask for.
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bro you take it too seriously we are not professional casters we just did it for the fun and to make it interesting if you got a problem? how about you cast? ****ing f@goot SHOTS FIREDaTastyCookie wrote: »Do you think we make a living off casting CrossFire? O_o
I think you should read my post.someguy wrote:Note: I mention being / sounding more or less "professional" a lot. This is not a professional stream, and I am aware of that. However, striving for professionalism is rarely a bad thing.
That should clear things up... I'm not saying that they shouldn't cast, and am I saying that they can't become good casters. Yet I think many would agree that they are not there now.Great advice, pointers, and critique but I think the majority of people know what "AC" and "BC" are. However, you do have a good point, at least to start you should say "A Connect known as AC" and call it AC from then on.
I'm not talking about saying "AC means A connector" -- you're right, that's obvious. However, with three entrances to A site, which do you consider A connector? A quick half-second explanation can go a long way.NonFiction22 wrote: »He has no correct points, blowing a chill, fun cast way out of proportion.
Edit: Kid clearly has plenty of free time; why not cast reid?
I, for one, always strive to do my best at anything I'm doing. If I am awful at something, then I would rather someone tell me how to fix it than allow me to continue ****ing things up. I typed this with the hopes and understanding that the ones reading it would be mature enough to not only admit that they have room to improve, but to take criticism as constructive and work on the flaws in their commentary.
I'm paid to cast, for Smash Bros, CS1.6, and CS:GO. I was going to cast the LifeLine vs DMB game, but I didn't have time.
I apologize if lengthy posts aren't your thing; the OP clearly wasn't directed at you, then. In fact, it wasn't directed toward anyone other than the casters (both of that game, and future ones). -
So someone comes along and writes up a nice (and detailed) post about how to improve certain aspects of commentating and instead of just saying "It was a last minute thing but thanks" everyone wants to go "**** YOU ****** ****ING CAST IT YOURSELF THEN HOLY **** ****ING NERD"
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10. "AC". Don't use your own pet names for certain spots unless you are 100% certain that everyone calls it that. AC? What the **** is that? If you want to call it something, briefly describe where you mean so that your viewers know what you're talking about.
Everyone knows what AC is, it`s A connector...
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