tommy O.o

its a WWII gun and its the pwn
cant we make it a lil les pwn just for overpopulating/historical reasons

comment here all not tommy users (because users wont want it nefed anyway lol

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  • i love that Gun and it has name i called My friend Thomas do you know my friend thomas?im gonna call him and he il kick your ass! XD:p
  • There's a reason we don't use it anymore. I agree with you it shouldn't be THAT good in game.
  • 3nj01 wrote: »
    It aint good in the hands of a noob..

    i think even a noob can handle it
  • In the hands of someone mediocre or better though, now that's a different story.

    Copied from Wikipedia: "The major complaints against the Thompson were its weight, inaccuracy at ranges over 50 yards, and its lack of penetrating power, despite the powerful round it used.[13]"
  • Ak47 has been around for years with minor modifications, its also the best gun in cross fire (arguably) in the right hands(Malte), Now we're going to nerf it because its been around since the late 1940's? 1949 i think?...yeah..not a good idea
  • FallOutt wrote: »
    Ak47 has been around for years with minor modifications, its also the best gun in cross fire (arguably) in the right hands(Malte), Now we're going to nerf it because its been around since the late 1940's? 1949 i think?...yeah..not a good idea

    LOOL Ak47=year 1947 :P
  • Age has nothing to do with it. The ak-47 is still being used today because it's amazing war rifle.

    The Thompson is not only old, but also isn't as effective as an m16.
  • 3nj01 wrote: »
    It aint good in the hands of a noob..

    even an idiot can shoot something with 60 bullets
  • nerfed wth umad?

    it takes to headshots to kill some one so why do you want it nerfed?
  • TheChosk wrote: »
    I´d like it to stay as it is.
    agreed. its truely awesome.
  • the tommy gun was used to clear areas, hence the nickname "trench cleaner". now they have more advance weapons for clearing areas.
    and the ak47 has been around since 1947 and the only thing that has happened was a new ak that came out in 1974 (ak74), but the ak47 is still widely known and used
  • AznBoySam wrote: »
    the tommy gun was used to clear areas, hence the nickname "trench cleaner". now they have more advance weapons for clearing areas.
    and the ak47 has been around since 1947 and the only thing that has happened was a new ak that came out in 1974 (ak74), but the ak47 is still widely known and used

    There's been alot of modifications that the standard AK system has gone through...

    AK-47 was improved to the AKM, a very common rifle because of its ability to be
    mass produced in greater numbers than the ak-47. AK-74 was based off the AKM
    and was improved including the introduction of an intermediate cartridge (allowing for
    a more controllable and accurate rifle). The AK-101 to AK-105 were based off the
    ak-74 and are also improved, and rechambered in a vast variety of different cartridges.
    The ak-107/ak-108 are improvments on the ak-100 series and feature a counter balance
    mechanism upon other improvments to decrease recoil.

    to the original poster:

    In terms of the tommy needing a nerf because it is an older SMG... that is just a lame
    excuse to nerf a gun for a non-realistic FPS. Ranges in Crossfire do not translate to
    its real life counterparts anyways, so talking about its accuracy outside of game scale
    is a moot point at best.The tommy has terrible penetration, sometimes scoring 1's through
    boxes at decent range. In the end, the tommy fits the role that the developers seem to
    have intended for it considering its historical role, and that would be as a trench cleaner
    featuring high rate of fire, large clip size, and massive rate of fire for an SMG with hits
    against its penetration (which is a consistant theme with SMGs anyways) and weight
    (once again, very heavy for an SMG).

    When discussing balance in any form, your opinion will have more weight if you scale each
    gun to the ingame performance of other guns. No weapon within Crossfire is meant to
    have a realistic representation, only a role representation at best (eg. you won't see a
    m82 barret be outdamaged by a 9mm pistol). As I discussed above, the Tommy seems to
    have filled the role discussed throughout the thread, and therefor fulfils any "realistic"
    expectations for a game of this genre.

    In my personal opinion, the gun fits the niche role
    of a useable rambo gun in scrims filling in the non-vital close range agenda for players
    whom specialize at high sensitivity gamming and require a gun that can dish damage at
    close range, yet be forgiving enough. Is this gun vital to a scrim team as much as an
    awm is? No, like other SMG's, the tommy lacks effective mid to long range capabilities,
    reducing it to a situational gun limited to specific areas of maps. The tommy ends up being
    a one-trick pony.
  • Lol people just complain about the tommy because they cant stand getting owned. It takes 10 bullets atm to kill someone making it a 6 kill before you have to reload not including headshots. Its a good gun and its benefits are balanced by the fact it fails at long range taking 10-20 chest/headshots to kill someone and the fact that it isnt as heavy as a kriss. Ive had noobs come at me with thompsons and i drop them quick with mine. Its like complaining about every gun because someone killed you with it this is all that is. Next thing people are going to complain that the AWM one hits you like stop crying
  • The Thompson needs a 50 round drum instead of 60 round drum, would be more realistic and would be an easy way to balance it. The Thompson was supposed to be a fun gun and more of a collector's item than a competitive weapon, so I don't know why it's so ****ing powerful.
  • HHV18Z wrote: »
    The Thompson needs a 50 round drum instead of 60 round drum, would be more realistic and would be an easy way to balance it. The Thompson was supposed to be a fun gun and more of a collector's item than a competitive weapon, so I don't know why it's so ****ing powerful.

    You clearly don't know how fast the Thompson eats bullets.
  • You clearly don't know how fast the Thompson eats bullets.

    MP7, Uzi and P90 chew up ammo faster. The Thompson has a fast firing rate, but the thing is it has the highest capacity of any submachine gun, allowing it to chew up ammo as much as you like.
  • You clearly don't know how fast the Thompson eats bullets.

    and you dont know that a normal cookie drum holds50 bullets IRl?
  • H4WK3Y3S wrote: »
    i think even a noob can handle it

    I saw people picking mine up. They weren't hopping around like you should with a thomson, they were mostly killed directly after picking up since they tried firing it at long range targets.
    Usually getting not more than one kill with it.
  • mavericktr wrote: »
    even an idiot can shoot something with 60 bullets

    Something. But he can't pwn with it.
  • 3nj01 wrote: »
    I saw people picking mine up. They weren't hopping around like you should with a thomson, they were mostly killed directly after picking up since they tried firing it at long range targets.
    Usually getting not more than one kill with it.

    If a noob can get a kill with it than the gun is overpowered.
  • HHV18Z wrote: »
    If a noob can get a kill with it than the gun is overpowered.

    In that case ALL the guns are OP. except for UZI and M9 maybe.
  • 3nj01 wrote: »
    In that case ALL the guns are OP. except for UZI and M9 maybe.

    meh i have seen noobs pwn with them look
    http://www.silentwulf.com/flash/narwhales.swf
  • 3nj01 wrote: »
    In that case ALL the guns are OP. except for UZI and M9 maybe.

    Guns that aren't OP using my deciding method:

    M60 - Pros know its built for spraying. However noobs are *******s and try to be BlindRob.
    Uzi - A real Uzi user goes for the head - noobs spray everywhere with it.
    M9 - Noobs can't use it, pros can't either.
    Glock 18 - A real Glock 18 user uses the semi automatic function. Noobs try and use 3 round burst.
    P90 - Noobs try to fire at long range, pros know to rush with it.
    AK47 - Obvious why noobs fail at it.
    MP7 - Noobs try to spray with it, pros know to aim for the head and rush.
    Steyr AUG A1 - Noobs spray and rush with it. Pros stay back and aim for the head.
    SG552 - Noobs try to aim for the head. Pros never do with this gun.
    QBZ95 - Noobs try and take aimed shots with it. Pros know to rush with it.
    Type 89 - Pros fire this gun through walls. Noobs fire it through their foot.
    G36K - Noobs try to use the sights and aim. Pros rush with it.
    Dragunov - Noobs try to use it as an AWM. Pros just don't use it.
    Winchester - Noobs try to be cowboys, pros would just use a knife.
  • HHV18Z wrote: »
    Guns that aren't OP using my deciding method:

    M60 - Pros know its built for spraying. However noobs are *******s and try to be BlindRob.
    Uzi - A real Uzi user goes for the head - noobs spray everywhere with it.
    M9 - Noobs can't use it, pros can't either.
    Glock 18 - A real Glock 18 user uses the semi automatic function. Noobs try and use 3 round burst.
    P90 - Noobs try to fire at long range, pros know to rush with it.
    AK47 - Obvious why noobs fail at it.
    MP7 - Noobs try to spray with it, pros know to aim for the head and rush.
    Steyr AUG A1 - Noobs spray and rush with it. Pros stay back and aim for the head.
    SG552 - Noobs try to aim for the head. Pros never do with this gun.
    QBZ95 - Noobs try and take aimed shots with it. Pros know to rush with it.
    Type 89 - Pros fire this gun through walls. Noobs fire it through their foot.
    G36K - Noobs try to use the sights and aim. Pros rush with it.
    Dragunov - Noobs try to use it as an AWM. Pros just don't use it.
    Winchester - Noobs try to be cowboys, pros would just use a knife.

    My opinion by taking a look at your method is about the same as the P90.
    If a noob rushes with a Thomson he's dead in no time. Anyone with a rifle can kill someone with a thomson that doesn't know how to handle it..
  • Thompson has good range for an SMG (only MP5 and Kriss have more range). It's accurate though jumps a bit. But it's very very fast firing and has capacity, making it a boosted P90. The reason you RUSH is because you get in SHORT RANGE so you can SPRAY THEM LIKE YOUR MEANT TOO.