Does the Kriss need a damage rebalance?

Currently the Kriss is just a Mp5 with a new skin their stats are exactly the same. I think it should have a power boost due to it firing .45 cal bullets vs. the 9 mm ones in the Mp5.

So either lower the damage based on bullet size or pump up the Kriss a bit. It's just a money hole atm not really worth getting and don't even get me started on the Tommy.

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  • Demodrin wrote: »
    Currently the Kriss is just a Mp5 with a new skin their stats are exactly the same. I think it should have a power boost due to it firing .45 cal bullets vs. the 9 mm ones in the Mp5.

    IRL it shoots .45 ACP, but IRL its magazine only have (atm at least) 13 rounds.
    Giving a weapon that ridiculous RoF + no recoil + fast reload + more power + 35 rounds = making an Heroic weapon into a Godly weapon. Imho it's a definite no.

    It's already overpowered and unbalanced as it is, no matter what you say, giving it more fire power would be gameplay killing.
  • would it be fun to play with an overpowered gun,and you definetly know youve bought your skill with the weapon?i dont think so....
  • Its fine as it is.

    Alot of people already think its overpowered, i think its fine as it is now.
  • IRL it shoots .45 ACP, but IRL its magazine only have (atm at least) 13 rounds.
    Giving a weapon that ridiculous RoF + no recoil + fast reload + more power + 35 rounds = making an Heroic weapon into a Godly weapon. Imho it's a definite no.

    It's already overpowered and unbalanced as it is, no matter what you say, giving it more fire power would be gameplay killing.

    So basically your saying a Mp5 is OP b/c it has the exact same stats minus 5 bullets...so the Mp5 Halloween is Godly and the Mp5-adv is Uber Godly? Oh and you are correct about the magazine size but not really "13-round detachable box magazine
    30 rounds w/optional extension" source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriss_Super_V side bar.
    Noonian wrote: »
    would it be fun to play with an overpowered gun,and you definetly know youve bought your skill with the weapon?i dont think so....

    I'm not asking for AK power here what I'm asking for is either decrease other smg's or just boost the kriss as it is the only smg to fire a caliber that size.
  • Floobs wrote: »
    Its fine as it is.

    Alot of people already think its overpowered, i think its fine as it is now.

    I think it's fine as it is now as well so the best option would be to decrease and balance the other smg's damage.
  • Lol the kriss reminds me of the scar light overpowered hardly any recoil people just spray and just a noob gun to use. sorry if you think this is spam xD
  • Demodrin wrote: »
    I think it's fine as it is now as well so the best option would be to decrease and balance the other smg's damage.

    The Kriss is the most powerful SMG in the game. It's power rivals some rifles. It's a ****ing monster with it's high rate of fire, quick reload, low recoil, 35 round magazine, high accuracy and high power. The only guns that can measure up to it's awesomeness is the M4A1 Custom, the SCAR Light and the Thompson. The Kriss needs to be powered down, not powered up.
  • HHV18Z wrote: »
    The Kriss is the most powerful SMG in the game. It's power rivals some rifles. It's a ****ing monster with it's high rate of fire, quick reload, low recoil, 35 round magazine, high accuracy and high power. The only guns that can measure up to it's awesomeness is the M4A1 Custom, the SCAR Light and the Thompson. The Kriss needs to be powered down, not powered up.

    Do you own a kriss? Do you own a Mp5? The y have almost exactly the same stats the Mp5 has a tiny bit more recoil the kriss has a tiny bit more power. Does that make sence to you?
  • Demodrin wrote: »
    Currently the Kriss is just a Mp5 with a new skin their stats are exactly the same. I think it should have a power boost due to it firing .45 cal bullets vs. the 9 mm ones in the Mp5.

    So either lower the damage based on bullet size or pump up the Kriss a bit. It's just a money hole atm not really worth getting and don't even get me started on the Tommy.

    We should do that, id we want a freakin overpowered weapon.
  • How many of you actually have a Kris. So far iv'e used it since it came out and i have to say i believe they have changed its stats i don't know when but after that xfire patch its definitely not the same. I would compare it to an UZI right about now. My m4 custom has changed as well :( so far my favorite weapons are thompson, awm, m4 adv, psg1, steyr.

    IF anything they should restore it back the m4 custom and KRIS it has changed for sure nerfed with out telling the loyal zp buyers =[
  • i got the kriss V and yea it;s just like an mp5 with twice the accuracy and same damage so please don;t complain its just got better accuracy and it;s no overpowered cause it takes more than 4 hit to kill
  • How many of you actually have a Kris. So far iv'e used it since it came out and i have to say i believe they have changed its stats i don't know when but after that xfire patch its definitely not the same. I would compare it to an UZI right about now. My m4 custom has changed as well :( so far my favorite weapons are thompson, awm, m4 adv, psg1, steyr.

    IF anything they should restore it back the m4 custom and KRIS it has changed for sure nerfed with out telling the loyal zp buyers =[



    yea kriss is weaker now
  • if most guns dat own has been nerfed now why not the scar light coz thats overpowered

    p.s dont nerf the scar light i own with it

    LMAO x/p
  • Demodrin wrote: »
    So basically your saying a Mp5 is OP b/c it has the exact same stats minus 5 bullets...so the Mp5 Halloween is Godly and the Mp5-adv is Uber Godly? Oh and you are correct about the magazine size but not really "13-round detachable box magazine
    30 rounds w/optional extension" source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriss_Super_V side bar.



    I'm not asking for AK power here what I'm asking for is either decrease other smg's or just boost the kriss as it is the only smg to fire a caliber that size.
    you are wrong man...

    do you ever tryied spray with an mp5 and then with a kriss? kriss is almost no recoiled and kill with only 1 headshot since mp5 needs 2. i wonder whats your problem :\
  • Demodrin wrote: »
    So basically your saying a Mp5 is OP b/c it has the exact same stats minus 5 bullets...so the Mp5 Halloween is Godly and the Mp5-adv is Uber Godly? Oh and you are correct about the magazine size but not really "13-round detachable box magazine
    30 rounds w/optional extension" source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriss_Super_V side bar.

    What stats are you talking about ? Did you play with MP5, MP5-Adv and Kriss, and then compared how well you did with those three weapons ? I did, and to tell you the truth, Kriss comes first, just behind is the MP5-Adv, and then, very far away from them comes the MP5.
    Their "stats" in situation are very different. Their rate of fire feels different, their power too, their accuracy, everything brings to a simple conclusion IMO : Kriss > MP5 Adv >>> MP5 and no need to power it up.

    Oh, and the Kriss in CF doesn't have the optionnal extension, it's the 13 rounds one if I'm not mistaken (but who cares... an 8 bullets Anaconda Adv with a 6 chambers cylinder... :rollingeyes: )
  • oOILLYOo wrote: »
    you are wrong man...

    do you ever tryied spray with an mp5 and then with a kriss? kriss is almost no recoiled and kill with only 1 headshot since mp5 needs 2. i wonder whats your problem :\

    Yea I have all 3 and the one thing the kris has going for it is the spray pattern after 5 shots up to that all in the middle
  • What stats are you talking about ? Did you play with MP5, MP5-Adv and Kriss, and then compared how well you did with those three weapons ? I did, and to tell you the truth, Kriss comes first, just behind is the MP5-Adv, and then, very far away from them comes the MP5.
    Their "stats" in situation are very different. Their rate of fire feels different, their power too, their accuracy, everything brings to a simple conclusion IMO : Kriss > MP5 Adv >>> MP5 and no need to power it up.

    Oh, and the Kriss in CF doesn't have the optionnal extension, it's the 13 rounds one if I'm not mistaken (but who cares... an 8 bullets Anaconda Adv with a 6 chambers cylinder... :rollingeyes: )

    RoF feels exactly the same it just sound like a ton of bullets are pouring outta the kriss. I've actually been using the Mp5 Adv more than my Kriss due to the silence and a 5 shot burst that is identical....dead center.
  • I wouldn't say Kriss is OP, but it's pretty easy to use and owns when used right(spray spray, spray). don't compare guns on their stats. The only way to really compare guns is to actually play with both of them alot then you'll notice any difference
  • the Tommy gun has the same .45 cal bullets as the kriss o.O it balances out the ZP crates kinda
  • Demodrin wrote: »
    RoF feels exactly the same it just sound like a ton of bullets are pouring outta the kriss. I've actually been using the Mp5 Adv more than my Kriss due to the silence and a 5 shot burst that is identical....dead center.

    kriss super is overpowered.
    if ur getting shot at, u cant move
  • The kriss is over powered i don't like it. All u see is farmers and nubs using em.
  • I don't think the stats are accurate. It already seems stronger then an mp5.
  • Being a fairly strong user of the MP5 and other SMGs I can tell you this:

    MP5 - High accuracy, low recoil, good firing rate, fast reload time, one of the few SMGs that can reach medium range effectively. Bad thing - it's weak, and requires 2 headshots to kill at times. This gun is decent but has it's obvious drawbacks.
    Thompson - Decent accuracy, awesome firing rate, massive capacity, powerful. This SMG leans towards overpowered slightly.
    Kriss Super V - High accuracy, very little recoil, high firing rate, 35 round capacity is nice, fast reload time, biggest range out of SMGs, powerful. This gun is overpowered.

    The Kriss with it's high costs does seem balanced now though. It takes a lot of coupons or luck to get one. Nevertheless though, this gun is by far the best SMG in the game.
  • Demodrin wrote: »
    So basically your saying a Mp5 is OP b/c it has the exact same stats minus 5 bullets...so the Mp5 Halloween is Godly and the Mp5-adv is Uber Godly? Oh and you are correct about the magazine size but not really "13-round detachable box magazine
    30 rounds w/optional extension" source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriss_Super_V side bar.



    I'm not asking for AK power here what I'm asking for is either decrease other smg's or just boost the kriss as it is the only smg to fire a caliber that size.

    just saying but dont trust wikipedia, um yah i think the kriss is perfect now the way it is. and tbh i think the thompson is better than the kriss.
  • Decrease other SMGs' stats? I don't think so, why would you power down Uzi xD?
  • OP - if you think the game's stats r the same as just comparing with experience - U JUST DON'T KNOW. kriss has way less recoil than mp5. also, anyone complaining about the kriss probably doesn't have one.
  • the kriss has alil bit more power than mp5

    but less recoil

    i tried my friend,s kriss many times

    ithink its fine as it is now
  • Demodrin wrote: »
    Currently the Kriss is just a Mp5 with a new skin their stats are exactly the same. I think it should have a power boost due to it firing .45 cal bullets vs. the 9 mm ones in the Mp5.

    So either lower the damage based on bullet size or pump up the Kriss a bit. It's just a money hole atm not really worth getting and don't even get me started on the Tommy.

    you complain about the stupidest things. The kriss isnt weak, maybe you just suck with it.
    its not the same as an mp5, it has much more power, the stats that are posted arent accurate.
  • The kriss is way more combat effective than the MP5.

    Leave it the way it is.