kid figures the black market system

]Karl

Black market is NOT luck, this dude has found out the secret on how the black market works, and he has told his clan members on how it works, and they also won the gun...



And do NOT tell me it's still luck...

I went to .*.Cai.- profile and he is in a chinese clan, and the other dudes .*.-Joe and .*.Cao. must have been told the secret by cai, they are in the same clan.

XD_Killer_XD

I dont believe anything until you prove me how.

[dot]

clanchat; "hey guys lets do some coordinated crate-opening and see who wins the most guns"

iSamual

Well did he win all BM guns?

BullishNiu

He had 5 million GP and opened 3 thousand crates.

E2Blatant

Bu11ish wrote: »

He had 5 million GP and opened 3 thousand crates.

Except if it took him 3k crates to win four, there would be a massive amount of people that won in between his wins.

[dot]

or it took him 4 crates to win 4 guns

bound to happen eventually.

E2Blatant

[MOD]dot wrote: »

or it took him 4 crates to win 4 guns

bound to happen eventually.

Well the luckiest day ever was winning awm-rd on 10 crates, and 2 conda adv in 60

4 in 4 crates? Seems pretty impossible for just luck

[dot]

i've won two in less than 20 crates. 4 within a short amount of time allowing no-one else to win one in between is hardly unthinkable during slow hours.

nvkp

LOL, i saw this too. My clan was calling me nuts, mind if i steal this evidence ? xD

uDream

Could still be plain luck, it doesnt have to be 4 in 4 crates at all, could be 4 in 10 crates aswell..

CFShu

I have the same screen shot, but before Joe won. xD

ProMohT

Ok then, what's the way ?

Baysiccccc

actually i won 2 m4royals in 3 crates and the kunckles in 1 crate it s all luck :)also span over 1000 crates for d.e camo and only got 2

DsMuslim

[MOD]dot wrote: »

i've won two in less than 20 crates. 4 within a short amount of time allowing no-one else to win one in between is hardly unthinkable during slow hours.

So it's better to open crates when people all are logged off ?

phatnguyen12

pft...i used like 200k+ zp and cant win a damn m14 lol....and all the gp only thing i won was the r93. all those lucky people haha

lmkmfffeop

it could just be luck, i won 2 mausers in 2 crates, also my friend won 3 ak scopes in 3 crates.
http://clan.z8games.com/charstat_cf.aspx?usn=6667627

fuNkydlL

TheDsDevil wrote: »

So it's better to open crates when people all are logged off ?

It sounds like yes it's better because Black Market is offering much prizes, so if you are alone you may win the gun in more crates.That's just my opinion.But it's logical

uDream

TheDsDevil wrote: »

So it's better to open crates when people all are logged off ?

I guess it's more likely the other way around. If the chances to win the main prize are like 1 to 1000 then if noone is on you could have to open 1000 crates to win one, but if many people are on you could just have to open 1 to get one as others already missed 999 times.
But to prove this we would have to know how bm works, as long as we don't it's just guessing.

CFSutty

I know the secret too... i won 3 weapons within 2 minutes :cool:

^^

ProMohT

Hurki wrote: »

I know the secret too... i won 3 weapons within 2 minutes :cool:

^^

Then, what is it ?

Demoniite

[MOD]dot wrote: »

clanchat; "hey guys lets do some coordinated crate-opening and see who wins the most guns"

Dem Asians.

Justiff

It baffles me that it is allowed to discuss how you or others crack open the bm system xd
As long there is no solid proof there is nothing to discuss really

Demoniite

If anyone's close to crack the system, it's Exploit.

NonnenOld

Demoniite wrote: »

If anyone's close to crack the system, it's Exploit.

damn you exploit.

Frecklez

There is a whole range of possibilities here, but someone figuring something out that doesn't exist isn't one of them.

Urkel2005

[MOD]Frecklez wrote: »

There is a whole range of possibilities here, but someone figuring something out that doesn't exist isn't one of them.

How many ZP do they pay you to keep saying that? There simply MUST be an algorithm behind the whole BM system. In the easiest case, it would be an algorithm that is like flipping a coin once (this would have a 50:50 chance of winning). Obviously, this is not the case here.
This means that the algorithm is just a bit more complicated. However, it CANNOT be totally random (just so complex that the decisions [=winning the main price] may seem random to the human eye). Therefore, there must be a certain chance of winning, even if it is VERY complicated to determine the exact chance or the requirements for it...

best regards,
Urkel

Ph0netic

' wrote:

I went to .*.Cai.- profile and he is in a chinese clan, and the other dudes .*.-Joe and .*.Cao. must have been told the secret by cai, they are in the same clan.

asians spend a lot of money on this game, only reason

smokedaily

Urkel2005 wrote: »

How many ZP do they pay you to keep saying that? There simply MUST be an algorithm behind the whole BM system. In the easiest case, it would be an algorithm that is like flipping a coin once (this would have a 50:50 chance of winning). Obviously, this is not the case here.
This means that the algorithm is just a bit more complicated. However, it CANNOT be totally random (just so complex that the decisions [=winning the main price] may seem random to the human eye). Therefore, there must be a certain chance of winning, even if it is VERY complicated to determine the exact chance or the requirements for it...

best regards,
Urkel

You can flip a coin three times and it land on heads all 3 times, chance is a measurement of something that cannot be measured. Also, the bm is random enough to anger me at least lol. I don't think forum mods are bribed btw. Yes there is an algorithm, just like diablo 2(old ass game, plx don't infract me :c)drop system, and it is random to an extent.

DerWolFeh

I know the secret to winning... it's money.

MitchRB

no computer algorithmic is complete random, its csc 171. That being said, its random enough that humans cannot tell the difference. You typically have to seed a built in function and each seed produces a set of results. So they most likely stack seeds to get random within a random generator.

http://docs.python.org/library/random.html

(a example that a algo is not 100% random since i know most people don't study the field)

aka, there is a not so random factor in the black market.