Need a better way than Hack Report

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  • Fck this. I'm over. Gonna try kill some hackers. Cya all
  • Go play crossfire europe, more hackers on it than the hair on your head :)

    CF NA is perfect put next to CF EU.
  • zCaptain wrote: »
    Fck this. I'm over. Gonna try kill some hackers. Cya all

    Have you ever... you know?
    tryed to report them?
  • zCaptain wrote: »
    I report everyday, although i think it's a weird process, that doesn't work due to too few MODs out there. Considering the huge amount of people that play this game.
    And the reports, i don't really count them, and who cares: someday i do 10 reports, other days i'm just too fed up with them not doing anything so i do just 1 angry report


    And if you really think this hacking report system works, why are you discussing it with someone who REALLY DOESN'T feel that way? It will get us nowhere. Just trying to get my point across, it's not the players i want to opinate on the matter. It's that fattie, Saidin: Start paying someone else except your belly. Get a real team, not online friends to do your work for you. And pay them real money, besides ZP.
    Free advice

    What have you been smoking? You have no idea how MODs and support work; MODs only have power on the forums, and have no power whatsoever in what goes and what doesn't in CF. Support however work at Z8 HQ I believe, and they get paid to do the things they do, which includes bug support, account issues, etc . IN REAL MONEY, if you haven't picked up on it yet. These people have actual jobs.

    Also, constantly insulting Saidin is going to get you nowhere. It just makes you look like you're having a nerdgasm and need some chill pills.
    zCaptain wrote: »
    Thread is in Suggestions section, and reads: "Need a better way than Hack Report"
    that's my suggestion.

    Don't really know A LOT about it, but then again didn't really STUDY it in-depth. Just PLAYED the game too much
    And now i get to the point THAT XTrap never worked for about 50% of what it was meant to do, IN MY OPINION.

    So, if i made a contract with someone, and he only kept 50% or less of what was agreed, i would tear it apart, wipe my ass with it, and make him smell it... But that's me.

    OK, but i give it up. My opinion will be left to rest here, opposed by everyone (who btw probably has more posts than days-playing-the-game) buried under some dirt hopefully to be read by more angry-true-players like me. Maybe it will work to get some more flames on their hands, and bash XTrap on the forum, maybe not.
    But 'Forumers' opinion really doesn't make me change my point of view.

    This game is too easy to hack because: 1. XTrap sucks at it's job 2. There's not enough MODs for the reports going around

    Once again, MODs don't work for support, and why do you think that contracts can be broken just because you feel like it? It's not just as simple as "You guys suck so I'm break contract bai jajaja". And Saidin has said on multiple occasions that xTrap is doing a wonderful job and that it's the best anti-hack that is compatible with CF.

    People like you don't appreciate the anti-hack because you don't know how it works. It bans thousands of players everyday before they even log on and wreak havoc; only VIP hacks or hacks that have not yet been detected get past.

    You make it sound like patching hacks is the simplest thing to do ever. The latest hack wave was patched slowly, but compared to a year ago where TDM was unplayable, this is paradise.
  • Sigh.. A year ago we had way more f*cking hackers then we do now so i don't see why you're sitting here complaining.. I'm sure they're doing as best they can. Theres a reason CF is basically dead it's because idiots like you come on the forums talking smack and CF sponsors take a look and drop us.. We went from 15 sponsers to 3 because idiots like you can't get enough. Just shut your trap and deal with it baby.
  • Saiden is FITTTTT.

    + changing to a new hack detection other than XTRAP will lead to even more hacks since they have to change the entire coding.
  • "The private sector is doing fine."

    X-Trap is doing fine. This is as close as it can get to being "fine", the seldom semi-annoying hackers in few games is better than the highly annoying when you spawn you die thing a few months back.

    Looking at your account, I assume you don't buy much ZP? (Only 2 ZP perm guns and no temps.) Not spending money in the higher levels can be detrimental.
  • Yeah, i'm gonna start paying money to step on dog shlt next time i go out the house...
    I'll step on it, and leave a 5 on the ground each time. That's how i roll *IRONY*

    And yeah, it's my fault CF is full of hackers, from the START. Not the anti-cheat MADE IN KOREA's fault. *IRONY*

    And btw, i don't trash-talk CF all the time in the forums, not my fault about the sponsors being gone (or "people like me"'s fault). Trash-talk just happens a lot because the state of CFNA, is crap.
    Last time i did trash-talk about it here, was like a year ago.

    I mainly play-a-lot and dont-talk-much-about-it, but after so much time without MAJOR improvements it just keeps on giving out the same impression, that there is DEFFICIENT support.
    And i don't care about support tickets reading "Oh i have killed 100 people today and it's 99 in my profile" being answered and solved in 5 secs *EXAGERATION*

    I care about being in a room, ALWAYS KNOWING it's possible for someone to get minor hack advantages like NO-FLASH NO-RECOIL NO-WALLS, without being caught.
    Because it's so easy (apparently) to get it... I never did get them, but it seems easy to get those hacks.

    A badly-protected (as it sure as hell seems like it is) game like this completetly ruins the experience after some time.

    SO YEAH, i report a lot of hackers (i check and re-check replays to make sure they are)
    but NO i'm not spending any more money on it. Because all the money i've spent (mostly converted to GP) never seem to get the game any better, hack-wise. And i know a lot of people from my country spending HUGE amounts of money into it. That should be making a difference on the hacking-issue in my view.
    But i AM NOW TOTALY CONVINCED that the money people are spending isn't being used to fight-back on hackers at all...
  • And stop attacking me, instead of attacking WHAT I TYPE ... like:
    "Yeah, ur probably a corporal"
    "Yeah, u dont spend ZP, noob"
    "Yeah, u dont know what ur talking about, idiot"
    "Yeah, u only got 2 ZP weapons"

    that's not really the point of me posting on the forum... And i don't post a lot as you can see. Only when i need serious points of view, because of my frustration towards the game

    Everyone seems so sure about what they say, however what I see most are contradicting BELIEFS

    "MODs are paid IN CASH"
    "MODs are volunteers" <--- example
  • zCaptain wrote: »
    Yeah, i'm gonna start paying money to step on dog shlt next time i go out the house...
    I'll step on it, and leave a 5 on the ground each time. That's how i roll *IRONY*

    And yeah, it's my fault CF is full of hackers, from the START. Not the anti-cheat MADE IN KOREA's fault. *IRONY*

    And btw, i don't trash-talk CF all the time in the forums, not my fault about the sponsors being gone (or "people like me"'s fault). Trash-talk just happens a lot because the state of CFNA, is crap.
    Last time i did trash-talk about it here, was like a year ago.

    I mainly play-a-lot and dont-talk-much-about-it, but after so much time without MAJOR improvements it just keeps on giving out the same impression, that there is DEFFICIENT support.
    And i don't care about support tickets reading "Oh i have killed 100 people today and it's 99 in my profile" being answered and solved in 5 secs *EXAGERATION*

    I care about being in a room, ALWAYS KNOWING it's possible for someone to get minor hack advantages like NO-FLASH NO-RECOIL NO-WALLS, without being caught.
    Because it's so easy (apparently) to get it... I never did get them, but it seems easy to get those hacks.

    A badly-protected (as it sure as hell seems like it is) game like this completetly ruins the experience after some time.

    SO YEAH, i report a lot of hackers (i check and re-check replays to make sure they are)
    but NO i'm not spending any more money on it. Because all the money i've spent (mostly converted to GP) never seem to get the game any better, hack-wise. And i know a lot of people from my country spending HUGE amounts of money into it. That should be making a difference on the hacking-issue in my view.
    But i AM NOW TOTALY CONVINCED that the money people are spending isn't being used to fight-back on hackers at all...

    Oh really?

    Compare this game to 3 years ago. And then compare it to a year ago... now compare the situation to it now...

    You telling me that there are more hackers now then there were then? That XTrap dont even bother patching anything and never have?

    Youre a complete reta.rd.... you really are... stuck in your own delusion where you WANT to hate on it so much you look at the negatives and only see what you want to see...
    zCaptain wrote: »
    And stop attacking me, instead of attacking WHAT I TYPE ... like:
    "Yeah, ur probably a corporal"
    "Yeah, u dont spend ZP, noob"
    "Yeah, u dont know what ur talking about, idiot"
    "Yeah, u only got 2 ZP weapons"

    that's not really the point of me posting on the forum... And i don't post a lot as you can see. Only when i need serious points of view, because of my frustration towards the game

    Everyone seems so sure about what they say, however what I see most are contradicting BELIEFS

    "MODs are paid IN CASH"
    "MODs are volunteers" <--- example

    That is the point though.. you cant make a thread like this without ANY knowledge of what youre talking about whatsoever... you look like a right idiot and youre so dense that youre not taking anyone point of view into account and just typically complaining about nothing.

    Who the hell said theyre paid in cash? Theyre not.. they do it free... hence the volunteer position it is.

    No Mods dont do support. No they cant do anything ingame. Mods ONLY work on the forum... ingame theyre a superior presence and the eyes and ears for the GM's...
  • fck XTrap... It's made by koreans, in Korea. I never did trust it from the start, and i never will trust it.
    I bet they work twice as hard on chinese version or whatever they do other than this

    Plus, auto-ban is SOFT
  • You call the GMs lazy though you are the one complaining how hard it is to report even if it's just your laziness.

    This guy has a point. Dam, i should keep this one as a daily quote :D
  • zCaptain wrote: »
    fck XTrap... It's made by koreans, in Korea. I never did trust it from the start, and i never will trust it.
    I bet they work twice as hard on chinese version or whatever they do other than this

    Plus, auto-ban is SOFT

    So these are just your own assumptions huh? What gives you the right to not trust them?
    Don't put your personal opinion when no one wants it.
  • There is a quality vs quantity here that unfortunately gets in the way of speedy reports.

    Reports have to go through a filter process. This process helps sort their priority level. Without this we'd never get anything done!

    The autoban system (X-Trap) picks up hundreds every day, the auto ban system also gives us a way to keep track of the trends within the game and the system. This combined with the number of reports we get daily we can determine how "bad" or "good" the situation is.


    In Game reporting unfortunately at this time isn't really going to be implemented. This is for a few reasons, the first being bandwidth and how taxing it might be to send a file (1mb-15mb) through the game to storage servers. Plus this data transfer may fall under some new EULA agreement clauses. The point being an in-game report system that doesn't ship out a replay is going to be useless.

    We don't need more text message false reports of people who go 89-12 in a TDM game because they are good, and not because they are hacking.

    The Autoban system also picks up a ton of people who have been reported as well. Over 50% of the people reported end up getting banned from the Autoban system. Sure this means it's likely only a temporary suspension this time, but it does help us prioritize the reports so that we're looking at fresh ones rather than ones who are already "banned". To further this, if the hacker gets permanently banned from the autoban system, we need to cut that report out and not bother to look at it. They are already banned so why bother?

    I certainly feel your frustration, but please know that now is one of the best times to play Cross Fire. There are less hackers in the game than there ever have been and we work with X-Trap on a daily basis to block hacks and review reports so that we can ban as many users who are cheating as possible.

    You can rage at me if you must, but the whole team here dedicates countless hours to the anti hacking situation from banning hackers to reviewing reports to digging up hacks and reporting them to x-trap to playing the game and catching hackers in the act.
  • The last sentence, Saidin, made me smile. :)
  • zCaptain wrote: »
    I see hackers all the time. Everyday. More like 1 every 3 or 4 games i play.

    I report everyday, although i think it's a weird process, that doesn't work due to too few MODs out there. Considering the huge amount of people that play this game.
    And the reports, i don't really count them, and who cares: someday i do 10 reports, other days i'm just too fed up with them not doing anything so i do just 1 angry report

    I'm zCaptain in-game (check it if you want http://clan.z8games.com/charstat_cf.aspx?usn=5511864)... Captain rank actually lol this is my second account.. Play since february 2009

    Get a real team, not online friends to do your work for you. And pay them real money, besides ZP.
    Free advice

    The mods are volunteer workers and don't ask to be paid. And through my personal experience of this game I see a hacker nowadays about 1 every 8-10 games. To me that is a huge improvement since, lets say a year ago.

    If you really wanted to help you would report hackers through the system instead of complaining about it.
  • ElseHD wrote: »
    The last sentence, Saidin, made me smile. :)

    yea it made me smile as well. and he does bring up good points
  • zCaptain wrote: »
    And stop attacking me, instead of attacking WHAT I TYPE ... like:
    "Yeah, ur probably a corporal"
    "Yeah, u dont spend ZP, noob"
    "Yeah, u dont know what ur talking about, idiot"
    "Yeah, u only got 2 ZP weapons"

    that's not really the point of me posting on the forum... And i don't post a lot as you can see. Only when i need serious points of view, because of my frustration towards the game

    Everyone seems so sure about what they say, however what I see most are contradicting BELIEFS

    "MODs are paid IN CASH"
    "MODs are volunteers" <--- example


    That's what we should be telling you to do. All you've done for the past 4 pages is insult Saidin, calling him fat and lazy. Your point of view is pointless because you don't have a clue what you're saying. You refuse to accept the fact that xTrap is doing an amazing job, and instead continue to insult both Saidin and xTrap.

    Also, their are contradictory posts because all those people with lower post count have no idea what they're saying, kind of like you. Mods receive nothing other than the occasional gift of an item from Z8. It's mainly a volunteer position, and you should expect nothing in return if you wish to be a mod.
  • This guy has a point. Dam, i should keep this one as a daily quote :D

    No he doesnt...
    zCaptain wrote: »
    fck XTrap... It's made by koreans, in Korea. I never did trust it from the start, and i never will trust it.
    I bet they work twice as hard on chinese version or whatever they do other than this

    Plus, auto-ban is SOFT

    Youre pathetic... get a life.
  • I'm sorry to say Saidin but not everyone will believe you. (I do)

    Wasn't this thread already closed?