host and vote system!

SilenceNJ

what do you think about this idea!
if someone will kik someone the host must to accept it or refuse it
if he refused the kik vote, it will not appear to the other players
if he accept the kik vote, it will work probably as usual

VATAV

Knowing the typical behavior of most ingame players.

1. Kick on opposite of Host's team.
No change most of the time, most players would accept a kick of the other teams players.

2. Kick on Host's team.
Most Host would deny, making kicking on the host side much more difficult.



Lots of people try to come up with ideas to "fix" the kick vote.
The problem isn't that the kick vote is flawed, it is that most ingame players abuse it and use it as a tool to win.

GoPancakes

It's waiting to be abused.

Demoniite

I was gonna explain, but Vatav is just a 100% correct on the issue.

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how about if the other team could start a vote?

ValidUnf

Demonitee wrote: »

I was gonna explain, but Vatav is just a 100% correct on the issue.

He is as usual

VANClTY

Hell no.

Just keep it the way it is.

NonnenOld

There are not really much hackers anymore, so it's not that necessary.

And as stades above, it could be abused way to easily.

SilenceNJ

VATAV wrote: »

Knowing the typical behavior of most ingame players.

1. Kick on opposite of Host's team.
No change most of the time, most players would accept a kick of the other teams players.

2. Kick on Host's team.
Most Host would deny, making kicking on the host side much more difficult.



Lots of people try to come up with ideas to "fix" the kick vote.
The problem isn't that the kick vote is flawed, it is that most ingame players abuse it and use it as a tool to win.

You're Right the problem in people who QQ more kik hak kik hak and the noobs who kicking the ace we have to change the players lol!

SilenceNJ

'R wrote:

aze;2993867']how about if the other team could start a vote?

host must to accept it first

Torjap

Sorry, but no.

1shotIampro

bad idea! -1

VATAV

Any solution to the kick vote must take in account of what the source of the problem is.

The source:
Majority of in game players unable to accept that other players could be more skilled then them and kick or ask for the kick of anyone that beats them to much. Most use the excuse of hacking for the kick.
(Ironically the biggest hack accusers I run into are blatantly hacking and losing to me)



So we want a solution that prevents most players from abusing it with out making it harder to do what kick vote is meant for (Kicking cheaters and very unsportsmanlike players).

One method would be to make rank a factor.
Higher rank players are average would have played much longer then other players and thus have more skill and a better understanding of what is and isn't a hack. Plus hackers rarely reach higher ranks, most being below SFC.

Solution 1: Make it so players can't kick players higher rank then them.
Pros: Stops the majority of noobs from kicking skilled players.
Cons: Higher rank hacks are harder to kick and encourages farming to reach higher ranks.



Another method is to make kick votes cost GP to start.
Have it say cost arround 200 GP to start a kick vote, and refund the 200 GP if it succeeds.
Those that abuse the kick vote will quickly run out of GP and be unable to kick as much well players that only kick true hackers and very unsportsmanlike players will barely be effected.

Solution 2: Kick votes cost 200 or so GP to start, and refunds on successful kicks.
Pros: The abusers will actively be punished for their abusive ways and would lower the amounts of kick abuse.
Cons: Poor players will be unable to kick vote true hackers.

Chimpzz

Exp3reT wrote: »

what do you think about this idea!
if someone will kik someone the host must to accept it or refuse it
if he refused the kik vote, it will not appear to the other players
if he accept the kik vote, it will work probably as usual

I actually think this is a good idea.

I mean whats the usual answers you get when you complain about getting kicked many times daily? Well we hear "Play with friends / clan members" - Well I don't have 4-6 people wanting to play any given mode on demand.

However if I had one person willing to host or if I was the host the isue would be resolved, in fact you only have to know a host as being fair and you know your good to go without being kicked and without hackers ruining games and not being kicked.

In theory the vote kick is fine, it should work as intended but you will never change the attitude of thousands of players and more so when those players register and leave CF and new ones join, esp when most don't even speak English, so the only option is to improve on what we have and for who we have.

New players also learn from the community that double/multi kills are hack, likewise with the killing of non moving ghosts, a few headshots in a row etc.