Scar Light Noob weapon?
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Aimoperative wrote: »Never really figured out why people kick people for bringing in legit guns in public games.
If the entire team has m12s, I just pull out my AWM and take satisfaction when I hit them.
It's in the challenge, not winning.
for real.
btw we used to be in the same clan
cant believe ur still so active on the forums. just like u were when i left 15 months ago. many faces have changed, but ur still here 
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SL is not the only gun called "noob" gun. Here are other examples:
XM8 (normal and ADV, also the spring version), Beretta AR70, Thompson, m12s.
I want to know which ones of the list above are OP, have low recoil, and what do you think of them, why are they called noob weapons.
I stopped using the beretta AR70 with the SPOP because i got kicked from the rooms
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Why all CF players consider the Scar Light a noob weapon?
Scar Light have power but also have high recoil.
Weapons like M4A1-Custom are easy to control, they aren't noob weapons?
I stopped playing 2 years and i came back only to play something, and i really want to know your opinion why Scar Light is only for noobs?
m4 is for noobs
scar light is for the pros who don't have zp -
Look at you guys... fcking hyprocretes? Hypocrates? idk what ever u kno what i mean U guys prolly hate scarlight and here u are saying oh scarlight is good balah blah blydadah stop being a bunch of hypocretes ok? for godsake every1 know that gun is hated bc of br's lagging and spraying Its just like the m12 -.-
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Look at you guys... fcking hyprocretes? Hypocrates? idk what ever u kno what i mean U guys prolly hate scarlight and here u are saying oh scarlight is good balah blah blydadah stop being a bunch of hypocretes ok? for godsake every1 know that gun is hated bc of br's lagging and spraying Its just like the m12 -.-
Its 'Hypocrites'. Spell Correctly. And I love to see High Pingers (from other Countries) using these weapons. Thats when I pull out my M14EBR and beat the **** out of them. Adds to my K/D Ratio. Its mostly the new players or players with a low skill level complain about these weapons. -
zaref4ever wrote: »m4 is for noobs
scar light is for the pros who don't have zp
M4 reg. is for people who can control a bit of recoil,
SL is for people who can't control ANY recoil.
High power+low recoil=SL
Moderate power+no big recoil= M4
How does this make M4 a noob weapon? -
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I like to use Scar Light because i don't know how to control it yet
Want a hint on how to control the scar light recoil?
Step 1: Aim at the enemy, it doesn't matter where but the stomache is preferred.
Step 2: Hold down the trigger, you do not have to adjust for recoil whatsoever.
Step 3: Go teabag his dead body thinking you're any good.
The scar light is possibly the best rifle in the game, the only other rifle that comes close is the M14EBR, but that rifle has a really bad spray pattern when moving (especially in comparison to the scar light).
The scar light is basically an SMG with the rate of fire of a normal Rifle but with higher damage and more accuracy. It's definitely overpowered if you compare it to the M4A1.
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=185345
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what do mean it's an smg?GodsGunman wrote: »Want a hint on how to control the scar light recoil?
The scar light is basically an SMG with the rate of fire of a normal Rifle but with higher damage and more accuracy. It's definitely overpowered if you compare it to the M4A1.
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also how does +1/2 damage make it overpowered over the m4?
last time i checked the amount of recoil and spread is the same as the m4
only difference is the slight reload speed and wallbang??? -
what do mean it's an smg?
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also how does +1/2 damage make it overpowered over the m4?
last time i checked the amount of recoil and spread is the same as the m4
only difference is the slight reload speed and wallbang???
I was saying you can handle it the same way that you handle an SMG, just point at the enemy and spray since there is so little recoil.
Last time you checked you were wrong.
... Neither gun has wallbang, proving how little you know about CF weapons.
Go look at VATAV's post if you want more information, it's on the thread somewhere. -
GodsGunman wrote: »I was saying you can handle it the same way that you handle an SMG, just point at the enemy and spray since there is so little recoil.
Last time you checked you were wrong.
... Neither gun has wallbang, proving how little you know about CF weapons.
Go look at VATAV's post if you want more information, it's on the thread somewhere.
actually all guns have wallbang, some are more than others
the scar light does 33% dmg
the m4 does 25% DMG
you can do that with the m4 also? i don't see what you people are trying to get across, once again the spray and reocoil is the same as the m4? i'm confused..
edit: even if it doesn't have wallbang? you're just proving my point even more.. -
actually all guns have wallbang, some are more than others
the scar light does 33% dmg
the m4 does 25% DMG
you can do that with the m4 also? i don't see what you people are trying to get across, once again the spray and reocoil is the same as the m4? i'm confused..
edit: even if it doesn't have wallbang? you're just proving my point even more..
Wallbang is commonly known as 100% damage through boxes, but yes obviously all weapons do at least some damage through certain objects. So when you say one gun is wallbang and one is not, you're obviously not talking about an 8% difference (did you know 89% of statistics are made up on the spot?).
If you spray at someone with an M4A1, after a few shots the recoil makes you aim downwards to adjust for it, and it will go off to one side.
If you spray at someone with a scar light, after a few shots the recoil kicks in but it's almost barely noticeable unless you're far away from the enemy.
Tell me this, why should anyone believe anything you're saying including your (most likely) made up wallbang % stats? Put dozens of hours into actually testing weapons and make a weapons guide, then maybe you will have some credibility. -
GodsGunman wrote: »Wallbang is commonly known as 100% damage through boxes, but yes obviously all weapons do at least some damage through certain objects. So when you say one gun is wallbang and one is not, you're obviously not talking about an 8% difference (did you know 89% of statistics are made up on the spot?).
If you spray at someone with an M4A1, after a few shots the recoil makes you aim downwards to adjust for it, and it will go off to one side.
If you spray at someone with a scar light, after a few shots the recoil kicks in but it's almost barely noticeable unless you're far away from the enemy.
Tell me this, why should anyone believe anything you're saying including your (most likely) made up wallbang % stats? Put dozens of hours into actually testing weapons and make a weapons guide, then maybe you will have some credibility.
none of your guides go over the boundaries in which we are discussing, other than the fact about the damage, but let's be honest 1/2 damage rarely makes a difference, also the stat about the wallbang was tested by a team member not sure if accurate but i will take his word on it, go spray at a wall in the same distance with each gun, you will see no difference...
if my wallbang statement isn't true, so what
accuracy of m4 = SL source: denxi/doop
recoil of m4 = SL source: denxi/doop (can't remember which one)
spray = both T shaped
damage 1/2 Less on m4, source: you
reload= slower but not by much
also don't forget to consider the price and rank which is necessary to use that gun, both m4 wins <- this is overlooked by many people and is even used to compare real guns -
master_mann wrote: »The definition of a noob weapon, is a weapon that requires no skill to use. The Scar L falls under this definition.
Now can we please let this thread die?
If that were true then EVERYONE would use a Scar L, because why would anyone use a gun that is intentionally worse than others? Go cry more. -
NektarPrim3 wrote: »If that were true then EVERYONE would use a Scar L, because why would anyone use a gun that is intentionally worse than others? Go cry more.
There is a diffrence between requiring no skill to use and being able to master a gun.
Also i suggest you go read this : http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=85424 -
master_mann wrote: »There is a diffrence between requiring no skill to use and being able to master a gun.
Also i suggest you go read this : http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=85424
You should read it too; as you are insulting everyone who chooses to use a certain in game weapon by calling them a noob. If it was really OP it would not be in the game, and sure as hell would not be a GP weapon. -
NektarPrim3 wrote: »You should read it too; as you are insulting everyone who chooses to use a certain in game weapon by calling them a noob. If it was really OP it would not be in the game, and sure as hell would not be a GP weapon.
No i said that it was a weapon that required no skill to use, a skilled player can still use it. If a F1 racer drove a GeWizz does it make him a bad driver? no.
As i said before let this thread die, if you really want the last word go ahead. -
master_mann wrote: »No i said that it was a weapon that required no skill to use, a skilled player can still use it. If a F1 racer drove a GeWizz does it make him a bad driver? no.
As i said before let this thread die, if you really want the last word go ahead.
Would a F1 racer drive a slower car even if a faster one was allowed within the rules? Of course not. He would use the best tool for the job, in this case, that might be the SCAR L.
I'm not doing this for the sake of arguing, I just think it's funny that people judge others on what gun they use, even though it is implemented in the game and perfectly legal. -
Dont worry about what anybody thinks. Whether it is a noob gun or not or what anybodies opinion is doesnt matter. Play with whatever gives you enjoyment.
All the melee weapons are "overpowered". How many players kill you with one stab of a knife consistently? very many if you have played GM. So using a gun that can give you a better experience or game play you should use
Kukri, shovel, nightmare blade etc.. The games inherent deficiency in bullet registration! The character lag killing you before the animation even swings at you. And what about hacking?? we all know its aproblem its not a secret.
So what is wrong with using a gun that gives you a little better chance? Especially with all the inherent problems of this game. We all know there is seldom a level playing field even in sanctioned matches like wogl the caught people hacking. Pros. Right.
Nothing. So maybe the "pros" ( which is laughable on a game so easily hacked ) will see you as a noob.. who cares. Let them do their pro thing and you do your scar lite thing.
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