Regarding MotG2 Complainers
![[Denxi]](https://forum.z8games.com/uploads/customavatars/0/navatar_2018000.gif){kind=avatar}
MotG2 was never supposed to be a competitive event. All of these limitations and problems that you are now speaking of were blatantly OBVIOUS with Saidin's first rule announcement.
You didn't voice your concerns then, so what makes you think that what you have to say now is valid?
Everyone who is posting now complaining, and didn't post BEFORE the event was over, is either so brain-dead that they couldn't see that teams not directly playing each other in a controlled environment would result in a flawed final, or doesn't care enough about the GM community's competitive events to both saying something about it.
Shut up and plan for the future.
You didn't voice your concerns then, so what makes you think that what you have to say now is valid?
Everyone who is posting now complaining, and didn't post BEFORE the event was over, is either so brain-dead that they couldn't see that teams not directly playing each other in a controlled environment would result in a flawed final, or doesn't care enough about the GM community's competitive events to both saying something about it.
Shut up and plan for the future.
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No, YOU shut up.
It was said for a LONG ASS TIME that the losses to hacker clans wouldn't count, people were expecting it and MODs acknowledged it as well.
Why would we voice our concerns before if it was confirmed by MODs that there was no reason to be concerned?
Get out of here. -
TGEHydralisk wrote: »Complaining is a Vicious Circle. You can't really expect people to shush when they start. Simply let it keep going until no one is willing to talk anymore.
What I'm thinking you're currently doing is simply adding oil to the flames, in theory.
My guess is he's going to use completely irrelevant statements, that seem to make sense, to counteract what you say to make him look smart and right. :]]] -
No, YOU shut up.
It was said for a LONG ASS TIME that the losses to hacker clans wouldn't count, people were expecting it and MODs acknowledged it as well.
Why would we voice our concerns before if it was confirmed by MODs that there was no reason to be concerned?
Get out of here.
Losses to hacker clans are only PART of the problem, one that I DID NOT address. Please learn to read. -
TGEHydralisk wrote: »Complaining is a Vicious Circle. You can't really expect people to shush when they start. Simply let it keep going until no one is willing to talk anymore.
What I'm thinking you're currently doing is simply adding oil to the flames, in theory.
^^This
@dag, you shouldn't be talking, you were going to get d/qed anyway for making so many new clans to reset the record.
Wow this is just golden. -
@dag, you shouldn't be talking, you were going to get d/qed anyway for making so many new clans to reset the record.
Well he already said why they did it......................................
You guys blind? o.0
And not only the Indian bunch, but Panthers as well. -
This is the ONLY problem anything else is completely irrelevant.
Tell that to people complaining about clans dodging better clans.TGEHydralisk wrote: »
What I'm thinking you're currently doing is simply adding oil to the flames, in theory.
Yea, I am. -
Losses to hacker clans are only PART of the problem, one that I DID NOT address. Please learn to read.
That's the problem Denxi, the actual "complaints" were against the games lost against hackers that counted, when in fact Saidin said they were gonna be removed.
Yeah, the tournament is over, but it wouldn't of been like that if he would of done something about it.
But who am I to make a drama about this, they wont change it as Saidin said "this top list is set to stone and wont be changed now that it was announced." -
Losses to hacker clans are only PART of the problem, one that I DID NOT address. Please learn to read.
Maybe you should address all the current issues before criticizing what you fail to understand, by the looks of it. Plus, you're not even a GM'er! Is Competitive Forums that boring now that Tasty is supposedly in England?@dag, you shouldn't be talking, you were going to get d/qed anyway for making so many new clans to reset the record.
First of all, I disagreed with our stance on making new clans, but I followed the guys anyway.
Secondly, I gave up on our hopes of qualifying about two weeks ago, so even if they take away the losses, we'd probably still have one, with around 64 wins. I don't think that would be enough. I'm not complaining about the tourney because I want Z8 to give me a golden katana, I complain because of all the other clans who has legitimate claims to the title, have been told to shut up by mighty Z8.
That's simply unfair to them. -
Maybe you should address all the current issues before criticizing what you fail to understand, by the looks of it. Plus, you're not even a GM'er! Is Competitive Forums that boring now that Tasty is supposedly in England?
First of all, I disagreed with our stance on making new clans, but I followed the guys anyway.
Secondly, I gave up on our hopes of qualifying about two weeks ago, so even if they take away the losses, we'd probably still have one, with around 64 wins. I don't think that would be enough. I'm not complaining about the tourney because I want Z8 to give me a golden katana, I complain because of all the other clans who has legitimate claims to the title, have been told to shut up by mighty Z8.
That's simply unfair to them.
This event was truly unfair... -
Maybe you should address all the current issues
Why?before criticizing what you fail to understand, by the looks of it.
Maybe you should learn to comprehend English before criticizing what you fail to understand, by the looks of it.
Wow, it's EASY to post without any logic or evidence behind it!
Dagnasty, you're terrible at GM. This tournament was 100% competitive and had no flaws whatsoever. There are no hackers in Crossfire. Every skill level was compared evenly.
Problem solved right?Plus, you're not even a GM'er! Is Competitive Forums that boring now that Tasty is supposedly in England?
Let's apply Dagnasty's Law of Foruming!
Dagnasty, you're not even a GMer! That's relevant and true! -
Maybe you should address all the current issues before criticizing what you fail to understand, by the looks of it. Plus, you're not even a GM'er! Is Competitive Forums that boring now that Tasty is supposedly in England?
First of all, I disagreed with our stance on making new clans, but I followed the guys anyway.
Secondly, I gave up on our hopes of qualifying about two weeks ago, so even if they take away the losses, we'd probably still have one, with around 64 wins. I don't think that would be enough. I'm not complaining about the tourney because I want Z8 to give me a golden katana, I complain because of all the other clans who has legitimate claims to the title, have been told to shut up by mighty Z8.
That's simply unfair to them.
So you're saying: "I don't want any grand prize. I'm a good person, caring for other people and want them to get what they want," right?
Goodie goodie all of a sudden?
I may believe you about the not wanting to make new clans thing, though. -
Denxi is definitely not a typical "echo8 ego kid"
He's a respected forumer..
All he does is argue until his victim gives in because his language and ability to see every little hole in a sentence is just simply overwhelming when really he's just wasting his time on a forum with a bunch of egotistical little kids. :] -
So you're saying: "I don't want any grand prize. I'm a good person, caring for other people and want them to get what they want," right?
Goodie goodie all of a sudden?
I may believe you about the not wanting to make new clans thing, though.
I was against this whole idea, like I said. And yes I do actually care about the other legitimate GM clans, because I would probably feel aggravated myself if I would've been in their situation.No? It's a post that points out how stupid your post was. Apparently you don't understand satire.
I don't really care about your little provocations, little man. If that amuses you, so be it. -
All he does is argue until his victim gives in because his language and ability to see every little hole in a sentence is just simply overwhelming when really he's just wasting his time on a forum with a bunch of egotistical little kids. :]
Seems to work though? Right? -
All he does is argue until his victim gives in because his language and ability to see every little hole in a sentence is just simply overwhelming when really he's just wasting his time on a forum with a bunch of egotistical little kids. :]
It's funny how many people say that I try to act smart and that my posts have no substance.
It's also funny that none of those people have ever actually been able to PROVE my posts have no substance.
You should go join a cult or organized religion, I heard there's a place in Iran that actually bans logic from discussions. -
I don't really care about your little provocations, little man. If that amuses you, so be it.
Dagnasty's Rule of Foruming #2:
When someone proves you wrong or makes a valid response contrary to yours, don't give them the satisfaction by replying. Instead, stick your fingers in your ears and say "I CAN'T HEAR YOU! LALALALALALALALALA" -
Dagnasty's Rule of Foruming #2:
When someone proves you wrong or makes a valid response contrary to yours, don't give them the satisfaction by replying. Instead, stick your fingers in your ears and say "I CAN'T HEAR YOU! LALALALALALALALALA"
He has yet to explain how something was unfair in another thread.
Asked him 4 times now. -
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He has yet to explain how something was unfair in another thread.
Asked him 4 times now.
That's disappointing, I was hoping you could get it by now.
It's not fair if Z8 says losses to hackers won't count and then change their minds without informing anyone.
I don't know how to make it more clear than that. -
Sim.Seems to work though? Right?It's funny how many people say that I try to act smart and that my posts have no substance.
It's also funny that none of those people have ever actually been able to PROVE my posts have no substance.
You should go join a cult or organized religion, I heard there's a place in Iran that actually bans logic from discussions.
Actually, if you can assume correctly, I'm praising your ability to argue. So I have no idea why you're rambling about people saying you have no substance.
:]]
You're second sentence just agrees with my thoughts, you can argue and that's what you're good at but honestly who really cares when all you're doing is arguing with immature minds.
Go join a debate team or get involved with politics or somethin'. You're more use there rather than here, especially on the subject of a mode you don't even play.
Stick to S&D. -
Complaining is useless, since they won't go back on the results, except if someone has a solid proof of hacking.
Spotting hackers with a replay in GM is close to the impossible,unless it's obvious spinning or speeding. Try it and we'll see.
And gratz to OldLegends, hope you guys make it.
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