A Cross Fire Auction House
So it's simple, they don't want to have an account to account trading function, so why not an auction house? Here's how it works.
If anyone has any ideas on how to make this system better, tell me and I'll add it in if it's worth it.
Say you have a gun sitting in your inventory that you never use, because you simply don't like it but you know others do. For me, I'll use as an example my Thompson.
When I look at my own profile on the website, next to the weapons it would show a new button listed as 'Auction'. Clicking will take you to a page where you MUST enter your security question answer as well as your e-mail address. Before clicking the submit button you'd have to select the duration and price of the auction and weapon.
Once you've answered the question and input your e-mail address, you would receive an e-mail to confirm the weapon being removed from your inventory and placed in the auction house.
Once you click the link to confirm it, you put in your password on the webpage, and the weapon would be immediately removed from your inventory and placed in the auction house, where you have no access to it, and you CANNOT remove it from there.
--Other information--
The weapon can be broken when it's added, but it would say "Thompson - 10,000 damage - Price (X) - Duration of Auction { 24 hours, 48 hours, 72 hours, or 1 week }
It gives you a drop down menu where you select the duration of the auction. You can select a 24 hour auction, 48 hours auction, 72 hour auction, or a 1 week long auction.
Also, you select your price, and make it GP or ZP. You can make it anywhere from 1 GP to start with, to 10,000 ZP to start with. Where the auction goes from there is up to the bidders.
As I said, you cannot use the gun while it is in the auction house, once you select and confirm it, the weapon is gone for good unless no one bids.
The current highest big IS NOT shown on the auction. You would input how much you want to place on the auction, and the amount of ZP/GP would be removed from your account instantly. If you do not win the auction, then you will be returned the GP/ZP minus 10% for use of the auction house (GP only) and minus 5% for ZP.
YOU ARE TAKING A SERIOUS RISK BY USING THE SYSTEM! SO IT WOULD NOT BE EASILY FARMED!
Continuing with the example of the Thompson, someone added it and I want to purchase it. I place a bid of 25,000 GP for it. I lost the auction so my GP is returned, I only get 22,500 GP returned to me.
Only Black Market weapons can be added!
To make an argument about the company not getting anything from it, the user adding the gun MUST pay a certain amount of ZP (Determined by weapon rarity) for the weapon to be placed in the auction house, to help pay for the server space needed for it to operate.
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~::Example Rates::~ (All rates are in ZP, not GP)
Thompson is a fairly commonly won weapon, so only 250 ZP to place it up for a 24 hours, 500 for 48, 750 for 72, and 1.5K for the 1 week auction.
A rarer weapon like the seasonal ones (If they were allowed which is already stated they'd not be), example the Jackhammer-H. It's a rare weapon, and currently not available for purchase anywhere. But if this system was placed, to help pay for the server time of the auction house, 1.5K ZP for 24 hours, 2K for 48 hours, 2.5K for 72 hours, and a full 4K for the 1 week auction.
The rates for rare weapons may seem steep, but remember, the rare weapons would attract a lot more bids and activity than the lesser items like the mentioned Thompson
Although it won't show the exact bid, it will show a 'bid level to give you a round-about area of where it is. Bid levels are as follows:
-Level 1-
1 to 10,000 GP
1 to 5,000 ZP
-Level 2-
10,001 to 20,000 GP
5,001 to 10,000 ZP
-Level 3-
20,0001 to 30,000 GP
10,001 to 15,000 ZP
Continues on increasing at the same rate.
--How this varies from the trading system that most people want--
It couldn't be abused as easily, for example if you make a new account and farm it up to GP crate rank and use the GP on said crates and win the gun.. Adding it to the auction house and setting it at the lowest price available and having your main account bid on it does not mean you will win it. All auctions are public and can be seen by everyone. ANYONE CAN BID ON ANY AUCTION!
You have a limit to 5 bids a month, and placing two guns on the market per month. So once again, it's harder to abuse.
~~Other~~
People may say that this system wouldn't profit the company in any way, so I've changed a few things from the original idea.
It would reduce account selling/trading.. People wouldn't need to get an entirely new account just to get that one gun they've always wanted, instead they could simply go to the auction house and get it that way.
When I look at my own profile on the website, next to the weapons it would show a new button listed as 'Auction'. Clicking will take you to a page where you MUST enter your security question answer as well as your e-mail address. Before clicking the submit button you'd have to select the duration and price of the auction and weapon.
Once you've answered the question and input your e-mail address, you would receive an e-mail to confirm the weapon being removed from your inventory and placed in the auction house.
Once you click the link to confirm it, you put in your password on the webpage, and the weapon would be immediately removed from your inventory and placed in the auction house, where you have no access to it, and you CANNOT remove it from there.
--Other information--
The weapon can be broken when it's added, but it would say "Thompson - 10,000 damage - Price (X) - Duration of Auction { 24 hours, 48 hours, 72 hours, or 1 week }
It gives you a drop down menu where you select the duration of the auction. You can select a 24 hour auction, 48 hours auction, 72 hour auction, or a 1 week long auction.
Also, you select your price, and make it GP or ZP. You can make it anywhere from 1 GP to start with, to 10,000 ZP to start with. Where the auction goes from there is up to the bidders.
As I said, you cannot use the gun while it is in the auction house, once you select and confirm it, the weapon is gone for good unless no one bids.
The current highest big IS NOT shown on the auction. You would input how much you want to place on the auction, and the amount of ZP/GP would be removed from your account instantly. If you do not win the auction, then you will be returned the GP/ZP minus 10% for use of the auction house (GP only) and minus 5% for ZP.
YOU ARE TAKING A SERIOUS RISK BY USING THE SYSTEM! SO IT WOULD NOT BE EASILY FARMED!
Continuing with the example of the Thompson, someone added it and I want to purchase it. I place a bid of 25,000 GP for it. I lost the auction so my GP is returned, I only get 22,500 GP returned to me.
Only Black Market weapons can be added!
To make an argument about the company not getting anything from it, the user adding the gun MUST pay a certain amount of ZP (Determined by weapon rarity) for the weapon to be placed in the auction house, to help pay for the server space needed for it to operate.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~::Example Rates::~ (All rates are in ZP, not GP)
Thompson is a fairly commonly won weapon, so only 250 ZP to place it up for a 24 hours, 500 for 48, 750 for 72, and 1.5K for the 1 week auction.
A rarer weapon like the seasonal ones (If they were allowed which is already stated they'd not be), example the Jackhammer-H. It's a rare weapon, and currently not available for purchase anywhere. But if this system was placed, to help pay for the server time of the auction house, 1.5K ZP for 24 hours, 2K for 48 hours, 2.5K for 72 hours, and a full 4K for the 1 week auction.
The rates for rare weapons may seem steep, but remember, the rare weapons would attract a lot more bids and activity than the lesser items like the mentioned Thompson
Although it won't show the exact bid, it will show a 'bid level to give you a round-about area of where it is. Bid levels are as follows:
-Level 1-
1 to 10,000 GP
1 to 5,000 ZP
-Level 2-
10,001 to 20,000 GP
5,001 to 10,000 ZP
-Level 3-
20,0001 to 30,000 GP
10,001 to 15,000 ZP
Continues on increasing at the same rate.
--How this varies from the trading system that most people want--
It couldn't be abused as easily, for example if you make a new account and farm it up to GP crate rank and use the GP on said crates and win the gun.. Adding it to the auction house and setting it at the lowest price available and having your main account bid on it does not mean you will win it. All auctions are public and can be seen by everyone. ANYONE CAN BID ON ANY AUCTION!
You have a limit to 5 bids a month, and placing two guns on the market per month. So once again, it's harder to abuse.
~~Other~~
People may say that this system wouldn't profit the company in any way, so I've changed a few things from the original idea.
It would reduce account selling/trading.. People wouldn't need to get an entirely new account just to get that one gun they've always wanted, instead they could simply go to the auction house and get it that way.
If anyone has any ideas on how to make this system better, tell me and I'll add it in if it's worth it.
Comments
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thisgameowns wrote: »Thumbs up +!.
Just wish they would consider something like the trading system with restrictions kind of like yours
Thank you, I've been thinking this idea over and trying to perfect it for the past month before I suggested it.Unfortunately this will never happen, but nice idea.
We've had suggestions made on the forums implemented before, you never know I guess.aExtinction wrote: »Really like how you made it so people couldn't abuse it, but i think it be good if we could see the current highest bid, other then that +1
Eh, it's kind of hard to explain why I put it that way. -
I'd be carefull if i were u, your gonna get in big trouble if your gonna try to market guns. Z8 Games runs their company MOSTLY off gun crates, if ur gonna abuse it your gonna get into a huge lawsuit. GL, u shouldn't have made this post.
And not just that, you can get scammed in this system. Its bad for the players and the company. If there are alot of bids what happens if someone hacked the website? Surely you spent alot of money securing transactions am i correct? There are too many factors involved, and you are doing something worse than hacking. You are cutting off the money spent on the company, there are already few GM's that are working for z8 games as we saw from the halloween event. Lets see some MODS opinions... ROFL, why?
You just asked to be banned permantely. You'll make history cuz most hackers don't lose their accounts anyways. -
There is no financial incentive for z8.Just look what they did to the 50 coupon perm items.Removed them because they were worried about the axe being"free" and people having max coupons not buying crates.So although its a reasonable idea forget it will never happen.
Its better for them that people buy 200 or more crates for these guns than get them in a trading market for knock down prices. -
UsenetPirate wrote: »There is no financial incentive for z8.Just look what they did to the 50 coupon perm items.Removed them because they were worried about the axe being"free" and people having max coupons not buying crates.So although its a reasonable idea forget it will never happen.
Its better for them that people buy 200 or more crates for these guns than get them in a trading market for knock down prices.
This,but I like the idea. -
SEG_Golden wrote: »I'd be carefull if i were u, your gonna get in big trouble if your gonna try to market guns. Z8 Games runs their company MOSTLY off gun crates, if ur gonna abuse it your gonna get into a huge lawsuit. GL, u shouldn't have made this post.
This is a suggestion forum. They expect suggestions good or bad. Can't be sued for a suggestion.SEG_Golden wrote: »
You just asked to be banned permantely. You'll make history cuz most hackers don't lose their accounts anyways.
Again, suggestion forum. Calm down.SEG_Golden wrote: »If there are alot of bids what happens if someone hacked the website?.
If somebody wanted to hack this website. They would have already. Why would they want to hack it because of a auction house? Even then, they would just reset everyone's account statistics to X point in time. Therefor regaining all of there stuff. -
SEG_Golden wrote: »I'd be carefull if i were u, your gonna get in big trouble if your gonna try to market guns. Z8 Games runs their company MOSTLY off gun crates, if ur gonna abuse it your gonna get into a huge lawsuit. GL, u shouldn't have made this post.
Sue me for what? They can't sue me because nothing in the post has ANYTHING that breaks any law, therefor your post is irrelevant babble.SEG_Golden wrote: »And not just that, you can get scammed in this system. Its bad for the players and the company. If there are alot of bids what happens if someone hacked the website? Surely you spent alot of money securing transactions am i correct? There are too many factors involved, and you are doing something worse than hacking. You are cutting off the money spent on the company, there are already few GM's that are working for z8 games as we saw from the halloween event. Lets see some MODS opinions... ROFL, why?
You just asked to be banned permantely. You'll make history cuz most hackers don't lose their accounts anyways.
I made the system as air-tight as I could, if you can find a way to be scammed in it, please explain instead of just saying it's there.. And if someone was going to hack the website, it'd have been done already. And why would they hack it? To get the gun from the auction house? Good luck, because that's something Z8 Games could simply remove from their account and place back into the account of the person who put it up for auction.
They cannot ban me or anyone else because of this post, because I broke no rules. Rory has already done something to the post, so I know I will not be banned for it. Think before you post something. -
I don't see the profitability of this for Z8, or even for Neowiz to consider for. Aka, what UsenetPirate said lol
Also, auction houses are more of a RPG element, whereas this is leaning more towards FPS.
Oh, and simmer down please.
Thank you!
It's more so for people who can't always afford to spend a huge boat-load of money on this game, but still want the guns to be able to step-up to the players who can. This would allow the ZP-less/Low ZP players to have the possibility of still getting their hands on one of the rarer guns. Of course some weapons would be exempt from the system, like seasonal weapons (Xmas and Halloween weapons), as well as BP weapons. It could also be viewed as a way for people with multiple BM weapons to clean out the inventory. What if someone who bought 200 crates for the DE-C won 6 of them in those crates? With this system, they'd be able to give up two of those and place them in the auction house, and help someone else as well as give themselves a nice little boost to GP/ZP account.
The only thing really in it for Z8 is the players happiness, which is something no FPS game can survive without. -
RequiemZero wrote: »It's more so for people who can't always afford to spend a huge boat-load of money on this game, but still want the guns to be able to step-up to the players who can. This would allow the ZP-less/Low ZP players to have the possibility of still getting their hands on one of the rarer guns. Of course some weapons would be exempt from the system, like seasonal weapons (Xmas and Halloween weapons), as well as BP weapons. It could also be viewed as a way for people with multiple BM weapons to clean out the inventory. What if someone who bought 200 crates for the DE-C won 6 of them in those crates? With this system, they'd be able to give up two of those and place them in the auction house, and help someone else as well as give themselves a nice little boost to GP/ZP account.
The only thing really in it for Z8 is the players happiness, which is something no FPS game can survive without.
dude other wise the gun owners will never share so many amazing guns such as the gold m4 tiger. This is a good way to try new weapons that do not exist anymore. -
XGUNKILLERX wrote: »An auction would be amazing(if it is safe of course)!!!! however I think some people should sell their perm weapons by the rarity. For example: AWM XMAS ultra rare starting price at like 100k gp
Those guns are rare for a reason, they are seasonal and are meant to only be obtained during that brief period of time.XGUNKILLERX wrote: »dude other wise the gun owners will never share so many amazing guns such as the gold m4 tiger. This is a good way to try new weapons that do not exist anymore.
Those guns are not supposed to be shared, so they'd be kept off the system because of their rarity and difficulty to obtain them when they originally come out. -
thisgameowns wrote: »Would still wish for a trade service. The Jackhammer I owe you is definitely worth more than free, considering you only spent 30 minutes 'teaching' me.
I plan on showing you more, but you're never on while I am. And when you are, I'm already involved in a clan war usually.
And I won't be on this week because I'm going to my mom's. v..v -
RequiemZero wrote: »I plan on showing you more, but you're never on while I am. And when you are, I'm already involved in a clan war usually. And I won't be on this week because I'm going to my mom's. v..v
Ugh. I've been making videos. Have you checked my channel? New gameplay from *ahem* other versions of Cross Fire. They're pretty good, to be honest.
OT: 122 subscribers now! Yay -
RequiemZero wrote: »Saw a thread about selling BM guns that you don't want, so I figured I'd bump this so people can have a suggestion that balances out the idea of an exchange system to talk about rather than making new threads.
I was going to say my last response was on the 20th and you only bumped it just now xD
But no use anymore
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thisgameowns wrote: »I was going to say my last response was on the 20th and you only bumped it just now xD
But no use anymore
I haven't really been paying attention to my old threads. But I saw someone mention that they'd like a system put in to get rid of unwanted BM guns, and I remembered this. I think if any type of P2P trading system was put in, it'd be one similar to this. -
Pedo_Bear_xD wrote: »+1 from me cause its perfect for people who have no luck .. but i thibk the developers dont support this idea
+! from me cause its perfect for people who have so much luck because I would willing trade my Jackhammers for other seasonal weapons or the M4A1-S Patriot
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