Not normal
This is just not normal, whenever people say something about bugs everybody says: suck it up.
Whenever people are saying something about errors: suck it up.
Whenever people are saying something about hackers: suck it up.
Whenever people are complaining about how reports are ineffictive cause nobody ever gets banned: they say suck it up.
Dunno about you guys i think as customers we can expect a little (very much) better from a company. It's either they don't invest enough in this game ( certainly not because they have not enough profit, i know a lot of people who spend A LOT more then 60€, the price for example MW3) or they just hire ppl that are not capable of doing there job.
Either way something has to change, very, very soon. People won't keep playing this game when in every room there are hackers ( yes there are for all uber pro ppl that only play in closed rooms, perhaps a lot less in SnD and GM, but in every other mode there a **** ton of hackers), getting a client error in every HM match and now not even being able to play a game because of the load error ****ty thing.
Whenever people are saying something about errors: suck it up.
Whenever people are saying something about hackers: suck it up.
Whenever people are complaining about how reports are ineffictive cause nobody ever gets banned: they say suck it up.
Dunno about you guys i think as customers we can expect a little (very much) better from a company. It's either they don't invest enough in this game ( certainly not because they have not enough profit, i know a lot of people who spend A LOT more then 60€, the price for example MW3) or they just hire ppl that are not capable of doing there job.
Either way something has to change, very, very soon. People won't keep playing this game when in every room there are hackers ( yes there are for all uber pro ppl that only play in closed rooms, perhaps a lot less in SnD and GM, but in every other mode there a **** ton of hackers), getting a client error in every HM match and now not even being able to play a game because of the load error ****ty thing.
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Exactly the comments i had expected, only saying i QQ and some moron with a comment which require an ultra high IQ.
Just give me one argument why i should suck it up.
BTW: I rather play MW3 and BF3, but sometimes i just wanna play something more relax, just shooting some noobs and having 2+ K/D ratio + i've invested like 60€ in this game so not playing it would be a waste of money. Offcourse in the current circumstances it's impossible to play... but we can't complain cause we have to suck it up! -
Exactly the comments i had expected, only saying i QQ and some moron with a comment which require an ultra high IQ.
Just give me one argument why i should suck it up.
BTW: I rather play MW3 and BF3, but sometimes i just wanna play something more relax, just shooting some noobs and having 2+ K/D ratio + i've invested like 60€ in this game so not playing it would be a waste of money. Offcourse in the current circumstances it's impossible to play... but we can't complain cause we have to suck it up!
Well,threads like these are made everyday,I just saw 6 more threads complaining about the errors.
Why I said suck it up?Because it won't help making a thread about the error.1 thread is enough for the GMs/Mods so they know the error is back.And if u didn't notice,there are far less hackers since the last patch.Play on uk 4 instead of uk 1-3/alpha server and u will come across a hacker only every 10 matches or so. -
This is just not normal, whenever people say something about bugs everybody says: suck it up.
Whenever people are saying something about errors: suck it up.
Whenever people are saying something about hackers: suck it up.
Whenever people are complaining about how reports are ineffictive cause nobody ever gets banned: they say suck it up.
Dunno about you guys i think as customers we can expect a little (very much) better from a company. It's either they don't invest enough in this game ( certainly not because they have not enough profit, i know a lot of people who spend A LOT more then 60€, the price for example MW3) or they just hire ppl that are not capable of doing there job.
Either way something has to change, very, very soon. People won't keep playing this game when in every room there are hackers ( yes there are for all uber pro ppl that only play in closed rooms, perhaps a lot less in SnD and GM, but in every other mode there a **** ton of hackers), getting a client error in every HM match and now not even being able to play a game because of the load error ****ty thing.
they always let us quiet.... -
Indeed a TON of threads like this (i seriously don't have a clue why) have been made and on everyone one ppl say dont QQ, suck it up, play something else. I don't want to play something else, i've paid for this! Indeed there are a lot less hackers, insteed of 3 hackers per room, only one. The problem it's the same if there is one or three hackers...
My point is every thread complains about the problems, i complain about how we see all these things as normal.
BTW: I do play on UK4 and in "every" (75%) match i get hackers. I do have to admitt i play like every mode except SnD and GM . -
if you dont like game you can quit it no one cares.This game is free to play,there allways be hackers,bugs and etc.
Many people QQ about it but z8games is trying to do they best to indulge our wishes to remove hackers,fix bugs and etc.
So i would say 1 thing: No one is behind your back and telling ya to play this game.
Case closed -
DerMaimensch wrote: »Well,threads like these are made everyday,I just saw 6 more threads complaining about the errors.
Why I said suck it up?Because it won't help making a thread about the error.1 thread is enough for the GMs/Mods so they know the error is back.And if u didn't notice,there are far less hackers since the last patch.Play on uk 4 instead of uk 1-3/alpha server and u will come across a hacker only every 10 matches or so.
1thread is enough?
i think 1millions is also not enough.....
bug/hacker never stop
they always said "we already try our best"
what is "best"?
fix "bug" ? ban a few ha.cker?
one hacker down , 1000 come out .... -
if you did know z8games is not who patch hacks its the xtrap who does.sunshine521 wrote: »1thread is enough?
i think 1millions is also not enough.....
bug/hacker never stop
they always said "we already try our best"
what is "best"?
fix "bug" ? ban a few ha.cker?
one hacker down , 1000 come out ....
and smilegate are fixing bugs z8games is just a name of the company who are in middle of it (they do deal with hackers and sending reports to devs what to fix and etc) -
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Wall of Text.
Please read though, it is for good measures
Mostly likely the people who tell others to "Suck it up" and "QQ back to mommy" are the ones who've been here for too long. They see the problem as the norm.
How? You may ask. I shall explain.
In a free to play game there are a lot of problems, but this isn't necessarily the death sentence we have to live with.
A long time ago in a land far far away, these "inconsiderate d-bags" that you see before you, with hundreds/thousands posts, were just like you. They see a problem and they make a thread about it, and in turn they get flames at or ridiculed by MODs and older players alike. Now you may think this is the MODs fault at hand, likely, but I don't believe so.
I believe that there's more, MODs are just people too, but how did they achieve this MOD status and who gave them the power? This is the interesting part, my theory/conspiracy begins here.
First question we can ask is "Do they get paid?" The answer is yes. Then we may ask "Who pays them?" This I can not say for sure, maybe it's the company of Z8, maybe it's us, or maybe Saidin just throw pocket change at them when they meet with each other for lunch. All guesses are valid since these facts are yet disclosed.
Now we can assume that the MODs are not the ones running the show, and intact they have strings attached to them. Being that they have a set of rules they must follow, such as regulate forums, ban trolls, control flaming, and ban tasty on sight. Since this game does a poor job of keeping the public informed and usually has bugs/random DC's/glitchers/hackers, we as player get uneasy and usually come upon the forums seeking sympathy or answers. MODs begin the cycle of rediculing those who QQ, then in turn the very same people do the same to the future generation of forumers.
So who is the puppetmaster? Some of you might think it's Saidin, but I doubt it. He seems more like a figurehead. Someone like Obama, sure he has a say in some things, but will get shutdown by the senate or house of representatives. So even he has strings attached.
So who is the real puppet master ?
This is a question I'd like to know
Conspiracy over. -
sunshine521 wrote: »1thread is enough?
i think 1millions is also not enough.....
bug/hacker never stop
they always said "we already try our best"
what is "best"?
fix "bug" ? ban a few ha.cker?
one hacker down , 1000 come out ....
So,what's ur point?A thread complaining about hackers won't change anything.It will not make them remove bugs faster,ban hackers etc.There are millions of hacker reports everyday,now manage to watch all these.Also,they can't fix a bug or error within 2 sec.It actually takes TIME.And yea,this game is free to play,don't have to pay for it so don't expect a bug free,hacker free game.And am sure u don't even report hackers and say "no point since they won't get banned".They will get banned,it just takes time since there aren't a million people working on this game.Oh and it isn't z8,it's xtrap that bans all the hackers.I can play this game without problems(unless there is that freezing error,but it gets fixed within a week so yeh.).I rarely see a room where a hacker joins and doesn't get kicked after 1 round,and come across a hacker only every 5-10 matches.If u hate this game so much,why don't just quit and stop complaining?It looks like soe ppl here are addicted by how they react when there is an error.Go outside,chill out with friends w/e if u can't play.
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=169771 -
Lazy_Genius wrote: »<Wall of text>
MOD don't get "paid", they sometimes get ZP or item, as a reward, but they don't have any insurance f getting some.
Most people don't just ask QQ threads original posters to go back QQing to their mom, or to suck it up to make fun of them and/or because they've already seen lots of similar threads, but because there are stickied threads about it, and non stickied right under the thread they just made.
Most of these threads are also complete dramatization of reality.
As for the conspiracy theory, I personally believe that if people were making a conspiracy, they would be good enough to leave us completely clueless of what's going on.
EDIT : WOW, didn't believe I wouldn't get ninja'ed on most of what I just wrote (I'm so slow) -
Since reading isn't your best aspect i'll repeat it for you (DNate54)
play something else. I don't want to play something else, i've paid for this!
This is a company you can ask a bare minimum if you paid for it. How do you know they are doing there best, because the ppl MODs or Gm say so? I bet they don't know **** about whats happening in their company. Who says they just wanna milk this game? Perhaps they wanna cut costs by hiring to less ppl? Just enough to patch this game every 2 months so it can be free for a FULL week (epic right;D).
Btw: really liked the text lazy genius wrote about the players who have played here a long time: They've seen this problems so many time that they take it for granted they get a **** service and flame on everyone that complains about hackers, glitches. Those ppl that complain have full right to and saying that it will not help. Perhaps it will help realise those greedy z8 (or smilegate or g4 or i do not care) ppl that it's 5 minutes before 12. -
If you want a simple game to just shoot some people in and not worry too much about doing well, Crossfire should do the trick.
If you want a new game without cheats and bugs, go find a game with a multi-million dollar budget and top of the line engine.
Someone: No, MODs don't run the show. We're forum moderators without any association to this game.
Someone else:
You don't "invest" in Crossfire.
You buy ZP. ZP is the product you receive.
It doesn't multiply in time, it doesn't entitle you to anything except itself - a virtual currency you can buy virtual guns with.
Once you receive the virtual currency in exchange for real money, your transaction with G4Box is completed and final.
Spending ten bucks doesn't give you a shareholder role in a business.
Although it does seem to automatically grant everyone a misguided sense of entitlement. -
Example pl0x on mods rediculing posters. Preferably on-topic and recently.
OT:
Suck it up
No but in all seriousness, after the 1,000th thread over the same issue in one day..... How would you respond?
Personally, it's becoming a slight irritation that some people do not attempt to read official postings or official threads on the matter before posting; or do not attempt to use the search function to post in THOSE other threads created before them. -
MisterMunzta wrote: »MOD don't get "paid", they sometimes get ZP or item, as a reward, but they don't have any insurance f getting some.
Most people don't just ask QQ threads original posters to go back QQing to their mom, or to suck it up to make fun of them and/or because they've already seen lots of similar threads, but because there are stickied threads about it, and non stickied right under the thread they just made.
Most of these threads are also complete dramatization of reality.
As for the conspiracy theory, I personally believe that if people were making a conspiracy, they would be good enough to leave us completely clueless of what's going on.
EDIT : WOW, didn't believe I wouldn't get ninja'ed on most of what I just wrote (I'm so slow)
They get compensation for the time they spend here. You don't believe it. Go ask them.
Your 2nd paragraph
My response, read the first page. Mine are quotes unless they edited themselves clean.
Clueless is far from it. It's more like you are being led astray by others with false information.
9 - I would but seeing as MODs do through deleting of each others posts to make sure nothing of that nature is left lying around...I would have some work ahead of me. -
Perhaps we don't invest in crossfire. But we do spent money and that money (and i'm sure of that) they barely invest back in crossfire and if they do, they invest probably in the most stupid thing in wich case they should fire the whole directory (dunno the right word).
BTW: about multi-million, http://news.mmosite.com/content/2011-03-22/crossfire_to_surpass_wow_and_become_the_most_profitable_mmo.shtml
seriously -.-, know the bussiness you "work" (do free stuff cause you're a moron) for.
So this is a multi million company, so as you said we can expect:a top of the line engine.
=>this is not the case (OBVIOUS), so they dont invest crap in this game and they are milking it.
Like so many ppl say:
End of discussion.
EDIT: I knew i was right no mod dares to answer^^ -
Lazy_Genius wrote: »They get compensation for the time they spend here. You don't believe it. Go ask them.
Your 2nd paragraph
My response, read the first page. Mine are quotes unless they edited themselves clean.
Clueless is far from it. It's more like you are being led astray by others with false information.
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They do get compensation, I'm not a fool, but however, as they are not guaranteed to get any, nor do they always get the same stuff, you can't say that they are "paid".
I said "most", it might have been better to say "some", but my point was : don't put all of forumers in the same basket, some are just trolls with nothing else to do with their lives, and some actually developed their thoughts in built sentences.
I try not being led astray by conspiracy theories, because these might cover the real conspiracy -
MisterMunzta wrote: »They do get compensation, I'm not a fool, but however, as they are not guaranteed to get any, nor do they always get the same stuff, you can't say that they are "paid".
I said "most", it might have been better to say "some", but my point was : don't put all of forumers in the same basket, some are just trolls with nothing else to do with their lives, and some actually developed their thoughts in built sentences.
I try not being led astray by conspiracy theories, because these might cover the real conspiracy
Sorry if my responses seem short but I'm on my iPhone and after writing that wall of text I didn't feel like writing more.
Ask a MOD, preferably PM. I have no intention of discussing this any further.
Some you say? How many of us here do you still believe is fight the good fight?
Your last sentence pretty much brings you to agreement with my original wall of text.
I'm not sure if you meant it that way. Also side note. What does the smiley face with the tongue out symbolize? -
Z8 IS doing all they can
How do you know? Are you at their bedside in the mornings pouring them coffee? Are you sure you are mentally fit to play CF? I have serious doubts u are. Most of you are stupid enough to pretend you are actually doing a favor to the community by passing "smart" remarks like "they are doing all they can", "in b4 close", "infraction coming" and so on. If you really respect the least of this community, you either understand the player's need to complain or just rage about a random issue and let a forum MOD decide what's right and wrong, possibly even closing the respective thread, or just be quiet and don't post if you don't like the thread or it's content. Just like you and other people like you say: "if you don't like the game, don't play", I can just reply back to your brainless head: "if you don't like what you see on forum, DON'T post". Let players speak up their negativity and frustration over the game because THIS IS A MODERATED FORUM! You are not a forum MOD, so your "teaching" skills are useless in here, there are people somehow trained to decide what is good and bad on this forum. -
Lazy_Genius wrote: »Sorry if my responses seem short but I'm on my iPhone and after writing that wall of text I didn't feel like writing more.
Ask a MOD, preferably PM. I have no intention of discussing this any further.
Some you say? How many of us here do you still believe is fight the good fight?
Your last sentence pretty much brings you to agreement with my original wall of text.
I'm not sure if you meant it that way. Also side note. What does the smiley face with the tongue out symbolize?
Had explanations long ago, but I don't really care anyway...
Tough question, the only true answer I can think of is : "sadly, not enough".
Yes, it was on purpose, as I mostly agree, I reformulated my original thought, which was poorly written, to make it a little more obvious.
That smiley face symbolizes the paradox inside of me, between the fear of such a conspiracy and not knowing whom might be the "puppet master", and the delight of never being able to know whether it exists, it will happen, or it already happened.
EDIT : NP for not posting another wall of text, you already made your point perfectly in the last short sentences. -
You don't "invest" in Crossfire.
You buy ZP. ZP is the product you receive.
It doesn't multiply in time, it doesn't entitle you to anything except itself - a virtual currency you can buy virtual guns with.
Once you receive the virtual currency in exchange for real money, your transaction with G4Box is completed and final.
Spending ten bucks doesn't give you a shareholder role in a business.
Although it does seem to automatically grant everyone a misguided sense of entitlement.
From dictionary, buying stock is the investment. They definitely did not invest.
But are you sure this definition has no problem? What if no one buys zp? What if no one play the game?
In the one hand, players are the consumer of a product, on the other hand, they are the supporter. Do you think the vote for the best fps is done by Saidin? Or do you really think all other games have more bug, hackers, worse graphics, less content, cost more? -
you are not paid.can you send me the rule from z8games that people must play this game until they die?Since reading isn't your best aspect i'll repeat it for you (DNate54)
play something else. I don't want to play something else, i've paid for this!
This is a company you can ask a bare minimum if you paid for it. How do you know they are doing there best, because the ppl MODs or Gm say so? I bet they don't know **** about whats happening in their company. Who says they just wanna milk this game? Perhaps they wanna cut costs by hiring to less ppl? Just enough to patch this game every 2 months so it can be free for a FULL week (epic right;D).
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No one is paid here you can quit this game when ever you like because i didnt see in any rules of z8games that i have comitment (sry i cant spell it rightly) to play theys game.
For your second thing about how i know that they doing they best.Yes i know it.I was 2 times on ventrilo and live chat with gm saidin about how the z8games work(wogl interview).
And you are wrong about everything.There was alot of people who was trash talking that z8games doesnt do anything and that they release hacks just to make profit,which it was funny.
Pls i'm asking you try not to do the same mistake like rest of them did.
Mods are connected with z8games company(with gm's) so they know everything what it is going on in z8games company except for the patch and new content for the game(they keep that in secret). -
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MisterMunzta wrote: »Had explanations long ago, but I don't really care anyway...
Tough question, the only true answer I can think of is : "sadly, not enough".
Yes, it was on purpose, as I mostly agree, I reformulated my original thought, which was poorly written, to make it a little more obvious.
That smiley face symbolizes the paradox inside of me, between the fear of such a conspiracy and not knowing whom might be the "puppet master", and the delight of never being able to know whether it exists, it will happen, or it already happened.
EDIT : NP for not posting another wall of text, you already made your point perfectly in the last short sentences.
As to the compensation thing with the MODs. I know this because of two reasons alone.
1. As seen by dot who usually picks apart the weakest part of the argument. He did not deny about MODs being paid. Dot is one with sharp eyes and a sharper wit. He is a worthy adversary.
2. Recently talked to a MOD about this, so I know they receive compensation for their work. Though he also said it was not much. Name will not be disclosed.
I for one can not lead a revolution alone. I need the support of the community. The statements of my arguments are built on you, the community, so please don't give up on me, because I have yet give up on you. Though my post counts are not high. I do have a clear understanding of what goes around in here.
They are very likely to delete/close this thread, but it does not matter. A quote from Inception, "An idea is like a virus, resiliant, highly contagious and the smallest seed of an idea can grow. It can grow to define or destroy you."
As we are in agreement on the issues at hand, I see no need for us to use prolonged sentences with this serious tone. -
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