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That's why I am not in an uproar, even though I despise the bill. Right now SOPA has been tabled in committee, and is being scheduled for more action in the current legislative session. If the supporters were smart, they'd toss in a million dollars for each congressional district of those who vote yes should the bill go to the floor.At what stage is this bill?
Can't find any real information.
Is it even close to becoming law?
The overwhelming activism against it tells me its not going to pass.
Basically the bill (as current) would require either the DOJ or the actual supposed aggrieved party to file a cease and desist order against the non-U.S. based alleged illegal content site (and, since it is a foreign site, this would probably be ineffective). Once they do this, they can then escalate the action to begin the process of removing the ability of U.S. citizens to get to the site. It isn't creating new law, but it is shifting the process and letting the government involve itself in copyright enforcement far beyond existing laws allow. The underlying strategy is not new and has been used in actions against spam sites for years.
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3261/text -
At what stage is this bill?
Can't find any real information.
Is it even close to becoming law?
The overwhelming activism against it tells me its not going to pass.
The bill was at voting stage in December. It then got pushed off and the new date of voting was supposed to be decided sometime this month.
Sadly it seems most of our congressmen in the United States are under-educated when it comes to the internet and therefore are for it, however, there is still the mass people who are constantly calling/emailing/etc the congress. To hell though if we know they'll listen to people who'm actually know what they're talking about. -
New_GM_Maplz wrote: »so z8games will do anything against it?
or they just don't care?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HriNzsp89lM
they should...
if someone post music lyrics in the in-game chat they z8games can be sued for it... just one thing.
Like many companies, we have to be careful about the voice we present.
Education about all political issues is paramount. Regardless of whether you support the bill or not, it should be the American Public's duty to learn about what bills are passed in their own country. The fact that something like this, that can have such a profound impact on the online community is getting this far is a sad indication of the lack of knowledge the general public possesses about laws and policy being created in their own country.
There is no doubt that SOPA could negatively affect our community and our game. While our company is based out of Canada, a major law like this could have repercussions that spread further than just the USA.
Other companies have taken a stance against SOPA, however they are doing it with legal teams and people in a position to give a more concrete answer to the public. We definitely appreciate those companies who are in the position to come out against SOPA and who have the means to do it publicly and with clear action.
At this moment in time we are not quite in the same position as those larger companies. So the best we can do is support the education and awareness by supporting threads like this on our forums and within our community. -
At what stage is this bill?
Can't find any real information.
Is it even close to becoming law?
The overwhelming activism against it tells me its not going to pass.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d112:1:./temp/~bd1r7r:@@@X|/home/LegislativeData.php|
For SOPA, also known as: H.R.3261
Official Library of Congress record of progress, you can click Back to Bill Summary and Stats to view more information regarding it, this is just the history of the bill so far in the House of Representatives.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d112:1:./temp/~bdbmE3:@@@X|/home/LegislativeData.php|
For the Senate version in the works, the Preventing Real Online Threats to Economic Creativity and Theft of Intellectual Property Act of 2011
aka PROTECT IP Act of 2011, or just S.968
SOPA is still in House Committee discussion, and PROTECT IP has a cloture motion to limit time placed on the motion to have it within the Senate. (Therefore the motion could kill it off it there isn't quick enough action.)
Personal opinion:
There isn't enough attention being focused on it as people might think there is, or else this would have been passed with little to no amendments being made to it.
OR
There is SOO much attention to it that it is hindering progress, and bills can only survive being a bill in the works for so long until it "expires". -
[GM]Saidin wrote: »Like many companies, we have to be careful about the voice we present.
Education about all political issues is paramount. Regardless of whether you support the bill or not, it should be the American Public's duty to learn about what bills are passed in their own country. The fact that something like this, that can have such a profound impact on the online community is getting this far is a sad indication of the lack of knowledge the general public possesses about laws and policy being created in their own country.
There is no doubt that SOPA could negatively affect our community and our game. While our company is based out of Canada, a major law like this could have repercussions that spread further than just the USA.
Other companies have taken a stance against SOPA, however they are doing it with legal teams and people in a position to give a more concrete answer to the public. We definitely appreciate those companies who are in the position to come out against SOPA and who have the means to do it publicly and with clear action.
At this moment in time we are not quite in the same position as those larger companies. So the best we can do is support the education and awareness by supporting threads like this on our forums and within our community.
firts, thank you for take time answer to this thread.[GM]Saidin wrote: »At this moment in time we are not quite in the same position as those larger companies. So the best we can do is support the education and awareness by supporting threads like this on our forums and within our community
like I say early on this thread, i should have put more time/thought into my firts post.
and i know most companies can only support and educate people about what this bill
will do if it pass, and this should be good enough.
the fact that 2 GM and 2 MOD posted here, shows that z8games are aware of the consequences that this bill will cause.
again thanks for your time.
edit: wow 9 is MOD now, sorry my bad then, 3 MOD posted here.
and congratulations [MOD]9.
and i
Rex!!!! -
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Remember, this is my personal opinion and does not represent the company's opinion [remember, I'm talking about the American government when I say "government". I myself am Canadian, therefore this is not a perspective of a citizen, but a spectator that could be affected]:While many ideals in which the anti-SOPA people present. The idea behind SOPA [I personally do not support it] is to prevent any copyright infringements. While this has been tried before [not on a federal level], it does hurt the internet community.
While I do agree that copyrights do have their pre-justified right to be protected, SOPA is basically trying to kill off all chances of copyright infringement even being attempted. Not to be anti-govermentalist or anything along those lines, but to myself, the government trying to kill off all chances of a possibility of copyright infringement is pointless.
Let's put it in perspective, many preventative covers have been done before. The government has tried to prevent acts such as terrorism, robbery with a weapon, and domestic violence and murders stemming from a weapon. Why do they not restrict the freedom of owning a gun to all Americans that do not require it in the workplace, or in self defense? Them doing that springs a whole new thought of hypocritical accusations.
Why do I think the government is doing this? Much easier work. By taking out the potential problem right away, they prevent needing to do any work whatsoever when it actually comes to the copyright infringement. They are saving the companies with billions that they favour, and are saving them the hassle of doing work.
Copyrights are meant to protect, not restrict. That is why copyrights have been broken previously. Taking down sites or main providers of such potential copyright infringements just opens up new doors to doing stuff under the table.
Take prohibition for example. You tell the world they cannot do something, and they will find ways to do it behind your back. Take LimeWire for example. They shut it down in hopes of fixing the music industry, but things kept happening under the table. Other services opened up to take their spots. Alternative forms of accessibility opened up. Let's say YouTube closes, LiveTV.com may come out in the next few weeks from a location in which the law does not reach, and everybody will flock there.
The internet world is a competitive one. America is actually flooding away revenues by shutting down said websites. A country which opposes SOPA may take advantage of this and talk to Google. All of a sudden, we have a major shift of online technological giants. Let's use Japan as an example. Suddenly, Google is now a Japanese company. Let's say Facebook suddenly becomes Japanese. The revenue original due to the American government suddenly goes to Japan, and all America loses is more money.
Let's face it, SOPA will never work with the online mentality. YouTube, Google, Facebook. All of those entities have slowly merged into our everyday lives. School and workplaces are embracing it and using it as a main form of entertainment, contact, and research. Students are using it to socialize with the world and educate themselves.
SOPA will never be passed in peace. There will always be one disadvantage that it brings to the world.
Based on what I have seen right now on the internet, I have yet to see anybody who is full-fledged supportive of SOPA or any bill passed of that sort.
The American government has proven themselves before for making decisions which the world immediately condemned them for. This is one of them. If people in your country do not support your decision, there is nothing but chaos, nothing but hate, nothing but injustice.
I would like to see the results if this SOPA is passed on. I want to see how the American government will cope with having to go to the library to research information. I would like to see how the American government will live without all of the business that they will lose if companies move over seas.
So, um. Yeah! SOPA =/= the right decision!
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