VITAL GAMING Night Cup [UK]
VITAL GAMING Night Cup
First, this is all non-official. I just want to get some feedback on the idea and maybe then change and develop it or scrap it. If there is enough interest I will put some time in it, otherwise, just a discussion.
Right now there are no leagues for the UK players in Crossfire NA, so what I would like to do is get my org to host a night cup for 8 teams and if it’s successful we can do a few more at a later date. This is not going to be a league that I or anyone else will be pushing to work, simply rock & roll.
Right now the future that I personally see for the British residents is that sooner or later there will be pure UK leagues for us, where NA or EU players wouldn’t be welcome to play (NAs have their servers, and EUs have their CF-EU and that’s where the leagues are going it seems). Right now there aren’t, if any, pure UK teams. This means that any league wanting to enforce such rules would have to gradually build up to it. We’d need players and we might as well use any EU players that still prefer playing this version over the EU one, but by not encouraging UK teams we are only delaying the inevitable.
What I would do is have a rule that states “All teams must have at least 3 players located in the UK present in the match.” As time goes on and the community builds upon semi UK teams, soon we will be able to have UK only teams, where all 5 players must be from the UK. This is already seen in a few CS:S leagues such as ESL UK Major Series.
The Idea
As I said via VITAL GAMING or another sponsor, I can try to organise a small event. A Night Cup for 8 teams under the rule “All teams must have at least 3 players located in the UK present in the match.” This is something similar to CCC, but it’s more focused on encouraging UK teams to be created. Before I have said “Competition gives players a motive to create teams” but I want to see if there will be enough people interested before I spend any time on this.
The Cup rules are still open, but will probably be generic ESL/WOGL (GP weapons only) rules. I am interesting in trying a double elimination bracket system, but if people prefer single that’s fine. If Z8Games are willing to give out a few prizes for this, I guess they might ask for the weapon rules to be a bit less tight, so that’s another option. Other prizes might include a Mumble for an X time (possibly a year). I might throw something out of my own pocket too and I presume I will have a greater sponsor support if more people want to play. If teams are willing to chuck a few £ quid to enter we might even have a small prize pot.
Anti-Cheat will be nothing special, probably MOSS, UAC3 or growler. What I would like to do is maybe use MOSS (with capture freq. of 2 mandatory), and the loosing team can ask to see certain player’s files from the winning team (so no need to upload unless asked to). (<<< Stolen from the EU(PT) Draft as personally I liked the idea and it worked) If anyone has a corrupt or dodgy moss they are disqualified.
Essentially what I will provide is an event that is better than nothing, with a domain, team speak for everyone (if you want to do it like a draft but with set teams) and a few modest prizes. I am not aiming high; I just want to temporarily fill the gap until a real league comes. Please discuss, criticize or like.
First, this is all non-official. I just want to get some feedback on the idea and maybe then change and develop it or scrap it. If there is enough interest I will put some time in it, otherwise, just a discussion.
Right now there are no leagues for the UK players in Crossfire NA, so what I would like to do is get my org to host a night cup for 8 teams and if it’s successful we can do a few more at a later date. This is not going to be a league that I or anyone else will be pushing to work, simply rock & roll.
Right now the future that I personally see for the British residents is that sooner or later there will be pure UK leagues for us, where NA or EU players wouldn’t be welcome to play (NAs have their servers, and EUs have their CF-EU and that’s where the leagues are going it seems). Right now there aren’t, if any, pure UK teams. This means that any league wanting to enforce such rules would have to gradually build up to it. We’d need players and we might as well use any EU players that still prefer playing this version over the EU one, but by not encouraging UK teams we are only delaying the inevitable.
What I would do is have a rule that states “All teams must have at least 3 players located in the UK present in the match.” As time goes on and the community builds upon semi UK teams, soon we will be able to have UK only teams, where all 5 players must be from the UK. This is already seen in a few CS:S leagues such as ESL UK Major Series.
The Idea
As I said via VITAL GAMING or another sponsor, I can try to organise a small event. A Night Cup for 8 teams under the rule “All teams must have at least 3 players located in the UK present in the match.” This is something similar to CCC, but it’s more focused on encouraging UK teams to be created. Before I have said “Competition gives players a motive to create teams” but I want to see if there will be enough people interested before I spend any time on this.
The Cup rules are still open, but will probably be generic ESL/WOGL (GP weapons only) rules. I am interesting in trying a double elimination bracket system, but if people prefer single that’s fine. If Z8Games are willing to give out a few prizes for this, I guess they might ask for the weapon rules to be a bit less tight, so that’s another option. Other prizes might include a Mumble for an X time (possibly a year). I might throw something out of my own pocket too and I presume I will have a greater sponsor support if more people want to play. If teams are willing to chuck a few £ quid to enter we might even have a small prize pot.
Anti-Cheat will be nothing special, probably MOSS, UAC3 or growler. What I would like to do is maybe use MOSS (with capture freq. of 2 mandatory), and the loosing team can ask to see certain player’s files from the winning team (so no need to upload unless asked to). (<<< Stolen from the EU(PT) Draft as personally I liked the idea and it worked) If anyone has a corrupt or dodgy moss they are disqualified.
Essentially what I will provide is an event that is better than nothing, with a domain, team speak for everyone (if you want to do it like a draft but with set teams) and a few modest prizes. I am not aiming high; I just want to temporarily fill the gap until a real league comes. Please discuss, criticize or like.
Comments
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I wish you the best of luck, though I find it difficult seeing this become a reality. I definitly support this and something has to be done in order to keep the UK community - + those europeans who prefer this version rather than CF EU - alive. Though the minimum of 3 UK players in a team would see Seals Gaming out, I'll be more than willing to contribute as much as I can to help improving the community and I like the idea of showing more interest towards the UK players out there. SHOW YOURSELVES!
Best regards,
Rheart aka Mudi -
I agree with Mudi, I think it would be a waste of time. I appreciate the fact that you're trying to make things work out for the UK community, but I don't think there are enough actual UK players who are mature enough to competitively play in a draft like this. (prime examples: reapz/tempz gang)
It's worth a shot and I truly believe people can change to the better. I do agree with you that some players in the UK community are immature, but unfortunately that seem to appear in any other community. I'm not here to bring specific persons in the focus of attention, but when you mention Tempz as one of the 'bad guys', I actually believe he's one of them to make a positive change. No, I do not know Tempz very well, but I recently started hanging around in Chilzz' TeamSpeak and Tempz shows up now and then. Personally, I don't get the impression that he's the Tempz we once knew him for, hopefully not.
I think it's time to rub the blackboard out and start all over. I know it's difficult for some and I personally also had few people I disliked, but it's nothing but waste of time continuosly hating. We're not doing any progress if we're not willing to simply get over the past and start building on a better future. Yes, I'm aware of this being said probably a hundred times by others who would like to see our community improve, but it doesn't hurt mentioning it again.
I know, this comes from me, who once didn't hesitate to irritate or cause disagreement, but hey? Miracles do happen!
Rheart. -
It's worth a shot and I truly believe people can change to the better. I do agree with you that some players in the UK community are immature, but unfortunately that seem to appear in any other community. I'm not here to bring specific persons in the focus of attention, but when you mention Tempz as one of the 'bad guys', I actually believe he's one of them to make a positive change. No, I do not know Tempz very well, but I recently started hanging around in Chilzz' TeamSpeak and Tempz shows up now and then. Personally, I don't get the impression that he's the Tempz we once knew him for, hopefully not.
I think it's time to rub the blackboard out, put up a new one and start all over. I know it's difficult for some and I personally also had few people I disliked, but it's nothing but waste of time continuosly hating. We're not doing any progress if we're not willing to simply get over the past and start building on a better future. Yes, I'm aware of this being said probably a hundred times by others who would like to see our community improve, but it doesn't hurt mentioning it again.
I know, this comes from me, who once didn't hesitate to irritate or cause disagreement, but hey? Miracles do happen!
Rheart.
We should first talk about geting a community Ventrilo and also talk about which EU teams still play CrossFire NA. Also the only team I know that's British is dXe. -
Think about what you say before you random throw it out there. Nip's already stated everything he wants to happen and it's a whole bunch of good ideas (ie. ts3 for being able to see the country of residence, three UKs per team). You randomly show up and state two unnecessary things that are absolutely redundant.
Anyhow, Mudi, I do agree that some people deserve a second chance, but from everything I've seen tempz and reapz do is just unforgivable. tempz has repeatedly caused the EU pug vent to crash, because he got banned after a proper bust video and a person like reapz (who's also blatantly cheated) behaved immature and talked trash so much I see no reason why they would suddenly change for no reason.
If you guys want to give the guy another chance, sure, at your own risk.
The second point wasn't 'unnecessary' we do need to talk about who actually still plays on this version. -
NoFatChixx wrote: »We should first talk about geting a community Ventrilo and also talk about which EU teams still play CrossFire NA. Also the only team I know that's British is dXe.
I agree and the only 'british' team that I can think of, is also vital dXe. I'm looking forward seeing which teams my dear Nip has in mind.
A community/pug vent/TS would be great to start again, if we're actually able to make it last. -
Why talk about it?
If you just get a bunch of teams to say they're prepared to play and actually show up in a sign-up process kind of way to see if we even have enough teams (provided the minimum amount of UK players is reached it would be 3 per team, 8 teams => 24 competitive UK players perfectly divided over 8 teams, barely possible I reckon).
if you say so -
Anyhow, Mudi, I do agree that some people deserve a second chance, but from everything I've seen tempz and reapz do is just unforgivable. tempz has repeatedly caused the EU pug vent to crash, because he got banned after a proper bust video and a person like reapz (who's also blatantly cheated) behaved immature and talked trash so much I see no reason why they would suddenly change for no reason.
If you guys want to give the guy another chance, sure, at your own risk.
I didn't say he suddenly changed, my point was, that I believe he'll be able to slowly change. Furthermore, they have any reason to change, it will not only benefit themselves but the whole community. -
My team.
Josh and his rap crew.
I believe tempz and reapz can get something together if someone shows them this.
Atlas? Strapz said he was back and active, so he can get a team.
Armada Gnius? Providing phong and doughner play that's already 2UKs.
That team IX has a few UK guys and he said he is interested.
There was a semi-UK team on the esl ladder at one point but dunno where they went.
There is a Chinese team, and I think at least 3 of them are in the UK as exchange students.
That's 7 I can think of. If you know anyone from the UK just spam this to him/her. -
we don't stand a chance? we was the infused team that put most top teams on there ass at the time mate, you have no idea what you're on about, imbecile. and Vital.Kio ( Aka Scorched ) we brought him up.
Don't worry, Seb talks crap even when he's ringing for us ^^ -
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I think this would turn out better and if this idea should be decided, I'll be looking forward seeing which EU teams will get an invite.
Probably ones that don't play on alts have at least an understanding of what sportsmanship is.
Anyway, please get a hold of UK players if you can. Also I forgot about RuST, im sure he can find 2 more UK/Ireland players and bring a team even if it is for just the Cup. -
I agree and the only 'british' team that I can think of, is also vital dXe. I'm looking forward seeing which teams my dear Nip has in mind.
A community/pug vent/TS would be great to start again, if we're actually able to make it last.
I'm not f4kin brittish noob, and dXe = ME -
I can tell you're not british the way you spell it, teehee. I believe most people consider vital dXe a UK team. So knock it off, Tigger has spoken!
stfu or i'll punch you in the face super hard.
i'm tigger, get at @ me bro, wannabe? yep -
stfu or i'll punch you in the face super hard.
i'm tigger, get at @ me bro, wannabe? yep
It's been proven several times that I'm the one finishing the champion. I was the one introducing you to the Tigger swag, so throw all your lies in the TRASHCAN!
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