WHY would you guys even make acr a zp weapon.
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GodsGunman wrote: »I found out why the ACR is a zp crate.
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=179350
faster rate of fire than the m4a1 series (aside from the custom crystal)
faster reload time than the m4a1 series (aside from the m4a1-spring)
it does about the same damage as the m4 series
But the spray and accuracy are horrible... -
i was comparing to the scar light- a gp weapon, that beats it in almost every category.GodsGunman wrote: »I found out why the ACR is a zp crate.
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=179350
faster rate of fire than the m4a1 series (aside from the custom crystal)
faster reload time than the m4a1 series (aside from the m4a1-spring)
it does about the same damage as the m4 series -
i was comparing to the scar light- a gp weapon, that beats it in almost every category.
Not rate of fire, which is important.
And it sounds to me like your complaint should be more about the scar light being a gp weapon when it should be a gp crate. I think people would agree with you more in that case.
Complaining about every zp weapon that comes out that's worse than an overpowered gp weapon is an unwinnable battle.
Complaining about a gp weapon that's overpowered and should be a gp crate makes more sense and people will agree with you. -
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GodsGunman wrote: »what comparison?
If you goto in game item shop and compare the guns there. Well I know it's sort of inaccurate, just for reference...
And after some shooting range, the acr's bullet go wild after 4 shots, sometimes even 2 shots... while sg is consistent for 4 shots before the 5th bullet jerk to the other end -
You sure? then I'm pretty sure you would complain that we aren't doing patches. People ask for new resolutions, zombie mode, new SnD maps and thats all came out. Just because we don't listen to YOU specifically doesn't mean we do listen to suggestions.
Edit: we just gave you the Ruger for GP last patch, outside of a crate..
Do you realize how long it actually took to get ONE new resolution? How long it took to get Zombie Mode? You gave us only 2 new SnD maps lets not get carried away? -
spell_caster wrote: »If you goto in game item shop and compare the guns there. Well I know it's sort of inaccurate, just for reference...
And after some shooting range, the acr's bullet go wild after 4 shots, sometimes even 2 shots... while sg is consistent for 4 shots before the 5th bullet jerk to the other end
those comparisons might as well not even be there, they're 100% useless.
I've fired the sg and the ACR, from what I remember the ACR has a tighter spray pattern -
GodsGunman wrote: »those comparisons might as well not even be there, they're 100% useless.
I've fired the sg and the ACR, from what I remember the ACR has a tighter spray pattern
I wouldn't say it's tight, but it's easy to control, as it jerk to left after like 6-8 rounds, so you just need to drag your mouse to bottom right, and the spray become a round circle (something like m12s). -
Giggletron wrote: »Dunno about you guys. But id rather spend ZP on unique weapons than +5 bullets and a reskin.
*except if that gun happens to be the m14ebr! :P
also personally I'd prefer if guns were zp temp
(i.e.) gold/hallo gat since I'd be guaranteed to "own" the gun for 3months for the price of ~10 BM crates.
For guns that I'd never even consider getting that are zp temp, I dont even care. Only one from zp temp that I luv is ak 74u. -
so your saying there is a possibility a gp acr in the future correct? All i want to know is that it gets fixed sometime in the future to be available for gp players. and about the skin changes....may be unrelated but havent we had the same m4 skin for a while now.
So your saying you want a "crappy" ZP temp gun to be a GP gun so you can use said "crappy" gun once its GP? -
[MOD]Talonblaze wrote: »Here's a thread that spells out the almost exact ratio of freely available guns versus zp ones.
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=159035
I hope I don't get jumped for getting into this >.<
The thing is, goldaara's argument isn't that there aren't enough GP weapons, it is that this particular weapon (Bushmaster ACR) isn't good enough in statistics to be "ZP-Worthy".
Onto my opinion, personally, I think this gun should be GP. Not, as some players may think, because there aren't enough GP weapons, but because it is not "ZP-Worthy" (Did I mention this already :S). It does not affect me in particular, and yes, of course, I can buy a different weapon instead, but I am saying this because players who buy ZP should be able to get a better weapon than this. -
You sure? then I'm pretty sure you would complain that we aren't doing patches. People ask for new resolutions, zombie mode, new SnD maps and thats all came out. Just because we don't listen to YOU specifically doesn't mean we do listen to suggestions.
Edit: we just gave you the Ruger for GP last patch, outside of a crate..
We were asking for a decent GP crate for a year now... -
spell_caster wrote: »acr is worse than sl... I tested it in shooting range and 3 shot burst is not really accurate... like sometimes the 3rd shot is really off.. And then the spray is horrible as well
The only thing horrible is your ability to control a weapon. Btw you should only need 1 shot with the bushmaster(to the dome that is), anyway you can't treat it like it's big brother the SL, you have to treat it more like an ak and do single taps.
Moral of the story...... stop spraying and start aiming. -
what exactly do you mean by cant give. I think its more that they dont give. They can put anything they want in the game, but unfortunately they have been putting in dumb things lately. I dont even want to spend my coupons because there is nothing good.
As giggletron said it's a business but first and foremost is can they convince get the devs to give them the patch to implement things. A lot of people forget that Z8 only hosts the game and G4box/neowiz is the publisher.I will give you THREE reasons.
1. Rarely do people buy zp temporary items and ussually spend zp on crates,gp.
2. Many Zp guns have a boost of some sort (increased ammo, reskins, funtional scopes, wallbang damage...etc.) as far as i can tell...the ACR has none of those.
3. Gp guns such as the scar-light are superior when comparing stats"yes i compared the two and scarlight was better in almost every category". so why would most people pay money for a gun that is statistically worse than a free weapon.
One thing the bushmaster beats the SL in is the RoF. I have used both guns and can tell you there is a very noticable difference in the RoF. -
I understand they need to make zp weapons but not every god dang patch i mean for freak sake stop thinking about your paycheck for one minute and use one patch for nothing but gp guns and crates that would make us all happy we have almost 2 full pages of zp crate guns and just half a page of gp crate guns its like come on i mean if you are that selfish then just quit making the game.
You do realise that there are way more GP weapons in the game than there are ZP weapons right. Go take a count of all the perm and crate GP weapons and then go count the ZP crate and temp weapons. I'm sure the GP number will be quite a bit higher than the ZP number.
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