ip restriction: "yay", "nay", or "Gey"
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Wrong.
Here is a little thing for you, it pertains to freedom of speech, but still gets the point across.
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glad to see that somebody else read that thing, thats probably the most useful article i ever read as a result of z8forums...not suprising considering the maturity around here >.> -
Wrong.
You accepted the terms, you acknowledged that fact that they can and might do that.
Here is a little thing for you, it pertains to freedom of speech, but still gets the point across.
They don't need a reason, it's their game, their site, most importantly THEIR accounts. And when you signed up to play, you acknowledged that fact.
It's THEIR'S and they can do anything they want with it, and it's still legal as long as it follows Canadian Laws.
As to the main post.
I'm mostly nay against it.
That article is so damn overated. The way he uses "You don't have freedom of speech" is entirely incorrect.
People completely mistake what freedom of speech really is. Is it speaking your mind? Or speaking against or saying against set rules of a forum.
Obviously it's the first one. Everyone has freedom of speech, the only difference is, on a forum board, when you register, you "sign a contract"(Terms of Service,Operations) to keep that freedom of speech of yours within the "limits" that are therefore defined in the ToS document.
"You don't have freedom of speech" is such a blatant and ugly statement. -
Well, I wouldn't be surprised if a/some new version(s) of CF will appear for those countries.efwegfegerwg wrote: »looking from giggletrons messages (he start to remind me of the f*g mod dot who made total nonsense comments) it seems western europe wil not be able to make new accs, and i cannot see any good reason for that , im from norway and get 35-40 ping is that really too much for cf? yet they will let the 300 ping guys who already there continue, yeah gj -
That article is so damn overated. The way he uses "You don't have freedom of speech" is entirely incorrect.
People completely mistake what freedom of speech really is. Is it speaking your mind? Or speaking against or saying against set rules of a forum.
Obviously it's the first one. Everyone has freedom of speech, the only difference is, on a forum board, when you register, you "sign a contract"(Terms of Service,Operations) to keep that freedom of speech of yours within the "limits" that are therefore defined in the ToS document.
"You don't have freedom of speech" is such a blatant and ugly statement.
You do realize in his post he said that he wasn't talking about the freedom of speech part.
And it's not "freedom of speech" if it's limited. -
XTaisetsuX wrote: »You do realize in his post he said that he wasn't talking about the freedom of speech part.
And it's not "freedom of speech" if it's limited.
I wasn't referring to his post, I was talking about that article it self.
Again, freedom of speech is a broad term and you take from it what you can. I know what true freedom of speech is, but sadly it just doesn't exist. Not in united states or any other country. Take a man openly commenting and bashing Christians on the streets, although he is practicing his right of "freedom of speech" it also falls under "hate speech", rendering the so called "freedom" limited.
Come on, you do have common sense right? You do understand what I'm saying right?
There's absolutely no reason to get way so technical on "freedom".
My point remains the same, "freedom of speech" is speaking your mind. To say "You have no freedom of speech" is to say, "You can't talk on our forums at all about anything on any subject what so ever". -
360Spinner wrote: »I think they should Ban all Turk/Egy/BR accounts. and then have this IP Restriction :P
all my clannies and friends are from nonNA/UK countries.
Agreed on BRs, like 80% of them hack. Turks and Egys hack a lot too but they don't deserve to be banned. I'm Egyptian myself. And I got about 50 Egyptian friends who don't hack or lag. We get 60-100 ping in the UK servers. Which isn't really lagging. Same for Turks. -
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I know what true freedom of speech is, but sadly it just doesn't exist. Not in united states or any other country.
Amen to that.There's absolutely no reason to get way so technical on "freedom".
My point remains the same, "freedom of speech" is speaking your mind. To say "You have no freedom of speech" is to say, "You can't talk on our forums at all about anything on any subject what so ever".
Freedom of speech.
I understand what you're talking about. But the true meaning of "Freedom of Speech" ultimately means, even though as I quoted above this from you no country follows it, that you can speak whatever you want freely. When you're limited by a contract, a ToS, a ToC, etc, you're limited in what you can say, therefore it ultimately is not allowing you to be free to speak. You are instead limited to what you can speak. -
I have a question um, it says that all account that are made before this ip restrictions are unaffected so does that mean that all non na/uk players that have made their accounts are still able to play in na/uk servers, only those who make accounts from now on are unable??? if that is true then this ip restriction thing wont solve much of the problems.
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XTaisetsuX wrote: »Amen to that.
Freedom of speech.
I understand what you're talking about. But the true meaning of "Freedom of Speech" ultimately means, even though as I quoted above this from you no country follows it, that you can speak whatever you want freely. When you're limited by a contract, a ToS, a ToC, etc, you're limited in what you can say, therefore it ultimately is not allowing you to be free to speak. You are instead limited to what you can speak.
You take from it what you can, I still call that freedom of speech, regardless of the technicalities. My original point was saying "You have no freedom of speech" just sounds evil.. -
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Well I guess this means that the people from other parts of the world didn't provide as much income to Z8 as compared to the UK/NA region?
I don't know that many people anyway outside the UK/NA region so it doesn't really give the nay vote anything to be backed by.
Plus, they can still play the game anyway so it's not like there are any major changes to
the game or gameplay, and to me this seems like a move to do many things.
The first being to test public reaction (even though it's highly predictible).
The second to stem the amount of hackers attempting to play from other countries, which shows that there are a large-ish amount outside our region.
This also could be a precursor to a new cf being started up somewhere, not that I'd have any idea where, just a guess.
Overall though, as biased as this sounds and is, I'm glad that steps are being taken to allow us to play with people who can actually speak the same langauge as us and to stabilize pings in our region, so that gameplay is more engaging and fun. -
Kawaii_Neko wrote: »Under the ToS is case anyone is still wondering:
"We reserve the right to deactivate your account or suspend use of services for any reason."
"Z8Games may terminate or suspend your access to all or parts of the Service, without notice, for any conduct that Z8Games in its sole discretion, believes is in violation of this Agreement or applicable law, or is detrimental to the interests of another user or any third party. In such case, Z8Games shall have no liability to you."
Notice 'conduct'. Kicking people out of a game isn't conduct. Even if they DID change their ToS or rules, they changed it after they paid - therefore they have a right. It's illegal, yet again said, ILLEGAL to shut down someones account for not breaking any ToS, or because 'your not wanted', it is unprofessional.
If you want more information, go to the IC3 Website - http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx
lol jk. 
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