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  • [MOD]Rex wrote: »
    If you have a problem with something a moderator has done, please either send a Private Message to another Moderator who'm you trust and they'll being it up to the right people, or private message directly to an Administrator.

    mods wont reply people to **** them off like what ur doing atm
  • [MOD]Rex wrote: »
    Mods have lives too, because they have XFire does not mean they will respond to CF Support stuff. Most MODs have xfire for various reasons, for various games, it is not out job to be a Moderator 24/7 when out of these forums.

    As well, many of the questions we receive from players on Xfire, are questions that belong sent in to support.

    That includes in game, sometimes in game we wish to just play, chat and hang with our players, getting closer with the community.

    Yes Rex you are right, MOD's have lives like everyone, but I'm sure if it was a known guy asking the same thing that guy was answered. I know, I have experience on that.
  • SouTo_O wrote: »
    Yes Rex you are right, MOD's have lives like everyone, but I'm sure if it was a known guy asking the same thing that guy was answered. I know, I have experience on that.

    I doubt it. Im rarely at my pc. When I am im on the forums. I leave my stuff running so I often miss messages (assuming you were referring to me)
  • SouTo_O wrote: »
    Yes Rex you are right, MOD's have lives like everyone, but I'm sure if it was a known guy asking the same thing that guy was answered. I know, I have experience on that.

    If they are friends with the person, then yes, they might likely help them out, but that's not being a Moderator, that's being a friend.
    BibtOb wrote: »
    mods wont reply people to **** them off like what ur doing atm


    I'm responding as best as I can to certain people who have not been answered by another, I am not anywhere near mad, and just giving people some detail, that is all.
  • how did this thread become 7 pages of the same thing repeating it's self. Like really a MOD does his or her best if they didn't they would be fired...
  • dman14555 wrote: »
    how did this thread become 7 pages of the same thing repeating it's self. Like really a MOD does his or her best if they didn't they would be fired...


    That's true,

    There have been times that Moderators have been fired for doing inappropriate things.
  • @ Giggle's request for examples

    I've looked through the past 10 pages of the competitive forum and I see your point; There are many closed threads that have been closed due to posts that have been made that have nothing to do with the thread, although it is questionable whether or not there truly was a ton of reason to keep the threads open. Recently I agree it has been moe of a judgement call, mainly because the competitive section seems to be flooded more with @player threads and less with discussion threads. I'm not going to bother going back farther than 10 pages, and although I will still say that there have been multiple times in which a thread would have been better of being cleaned than closed, that recently the majority of those have had valid reason of uselessness to be closed.
  • [MOD]Rex wrote: »
    If you have a problem with something a moderator has done, please either send a Private Message to another Moderator who'm you trust and they'll being it up to the right people, or private message directly to an Administrator.

    You never answer my PMs though?
  • [MOD]Rex wrote: »
    If they are friends with the person, then yes, they might likely help them out, but that's not being a Moderator, that's being a friend.



    Hummm, so you are saying, moderators help friends first and when they have nothing to do, possibly they help the others.
  • [MOD]Rex wrote: »
    If you have a problem with something a moderator has done, please either send a Private Message to another Moderator who'm you trust and they'll being it up to the right people, or private message directly to an Administrator.

    not like they will answer lol
  • SouTo_O wrote: »

    Hummm, so you are saying, moderators help friends first and when they have nothing to do, possibly they help the others.

    xFire is not the Z8 forums.
  • Limeeeee wrote: »
    Everyone, this is your chance to a write a 10 paragraph essay on why the moderators are fantastic to secure you a spot as a moderator!

    Maven, you first. Hi has already gone.
    Limeeeee wrote: »
    I am debating whether I should write up an essay on why moderators are doing a good job, or make Saidin a signature. I should just do both and continue acting as if moderators do anything more than deleting posts once in a while. I mean, if most of today's moderators weren't mods, they would be the unknown kids posting in off topic being disregarded by everybody.
    If I wanted to be mod I could of applied ages ago, I have been around during the mod application threads. I speak my opinion, and most of the time it's in support of the mods, but it is not to impress or get them to choose me.
  • You never answer my PMs though?

    You would be quite surprised how fast our PM boxes get full.

    I know that I try to answer the most PMs I can that I feel CAN be answered by myself, but there are some I skip because we've made numerous official announcements saying that we will not respond to such PMs such as account issues.

    And of course I miss a few when I go through, because going through each PM a second time to make sure I responded to them would take a very long time and my PM box is needed open.


    I usually ignore VMs (Visitor Messages) because the player does not have their activated most the time.

    http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=97468 (This includes Moderators)


    As well to the people mentioning us helping via XFire please read this, http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=138682



    Viszzilla wrote: »
    not like they will answer lol


    It is very possible that they might not reply, but this does not mean we will not make sure correct action is applied.

    If one member of our team messes up, it reflects on all of us.
  • Limeeeee wrote: »
    right right, shouldn't you be busy making a signature for Saidin kid?

    I don't need you to believe me, I'm not a kid, and I'll be posting that when I have the time to finish it.
  • Limeeeee wrote: »
    hahaha too funny. I hope you become a moderator to make the current team of moderators scummier.
    Your trolling attempts are getting weaker and weaker. Also, you don't need the "more" before "scummier".
  • They signed up for it. They are Volunteers as Saidin stated. My bad for the spelling.

    Its like signing up for a football team and then complaining that your legs hurt. Of course they're gonna hurt; you signed up for it.
    Although thats somewhat valid...its pointless. They didnt join a competitve team. The offer time out of their day to make a better place for YOU and everyone alike. Just because its not to your liking doesnt mean that it wasnt done for a better bigger cause. This is an endless argument. At the end of the day, them, me, you, and everyone else makes mistakes...and are justly adjusted after so.
    Viszzilla wrote: »
    not like they will answer lol
    Are you asking them appropriately or are you just adding to trolling? Seriously, I wouldnt respond to you if I had already dealt with you and couldnt come to an agreement. Just saying.
  • i'll have to agree, some mods just do as they wish


    Also one mod said that all they do is say the truth and if it comes out harsh he's sorry because it wasn't personal, well why do when some of us do that we get infracted or banned and they don't get punished or something
  • Limeeeee wrote: »
    It isn't trolling, it's me speaking the utter truth. I don't know how you can't comprehend that, you're probably part of the deranged, no values in life group that resorts to favouring moderators on a forum so you have a shot at having some control for once in your life at something. I suggest some counselling.

    You know Limes, if Moderators would strictly follow the rules in place and never make judgement calls, you'd probably get infracted (if not banned) for almost every post you make non-regarding technical support.

    You should be glad they give you some lax.
  • Most of them are good at what they do... some, not so much.
    Maybe they should be re-tested.
  • As rude as this might soung, I think Saiden should really consider who is a Mod. Some of them are no offense, but some of the most biased view minded people and close threads for literally the worst reasons and sometimes even leave with a rude and provacative comment.

    Its not that Im jealous or anything, but if I were to write that same equivalent provative comment, I would probably be infracted. This double standard is really just unnecessary.

    Im not talking on my behalf because the thread I have made had good reasons for them to be closed.

    I have examples, but its against the rules to post things which have been discussed or closed or whatever.

    Seirosly though... Then they're the mods that repeatedly break rules themselves, ones that act as if they were somehow drunk at the keyboard, etc.

    TL;DR How are some Mods Mods?

    I suppose some of this is true, but I see it as a personal argument at times (As if he's on break and NOT a mod atm), or just to prevent unnecessary arguments, or because they've had a conversation with a certain person in there about something before, and that certain person broke the rules.
    They're mature and cool. Most of them. They just follow the rules whether we like them or not. Yeah...they close some threads but sometimes they do it to prevent flame wars or nerd fights.

    So far I haven't seen them do anything wrong O.o

    I havent seen anything wrong so far either. Although I have seen some harsh thread closings, But when I try to see why, I find out, and it makes sense.
    ESLHi wrote: »
    Moderators are chosen because they give something to the community. They may not appear to be the best moderators, but trust me, they work their butts off behind the scenes. I'm friends with a few of them, and the things they do would make the average forumer cry.

    Some moderators may be as some say, "immature". It's because, with amount of [insert bad word here] that they deal with everyday on the forums, they just can't sit down and type full out sentences like you and I. They have to go around and constantly work. That's why we have moderators from different parts of the country, so that some mods can go have a break and live their lives.

    Trust me, I've worked with tons of people in one day [ESL administration isn't a breeze, you know]. It gets tiring.

    Totally true.
  • They signed up for it. They are Volunteers as Saidin stated. My bad for the spelling.

    Its like signing up for a football team and then complaining that your legs hurt. Of course they're gonna hurt; you signed up for it.

    Put it in the coaches perspective though.
    If you as a person complains, the coach either will tell you to suck it up or let you have a break. Their method of saying it in such a fashion could be also affected by their mood. Where they say that you are gonna do 10 more laps cuz they said so, or you spouted out arguments, or just because they stubbed their toe that morning.

    No person is perfect and usually they deal with it after its been brought up if its a serious issue. That is also why you as forumer's have the option to report MOD behavior as well. What can be done, can be reversed. Rather simple.
    I'd expect people who have problems to come to me about it and talk about it properly if they want justification, and people have and usually come to terms with it.

    We are people, not robots. Human nature is to make mistakes.
  • Limeeeee wrote: »
    It isn't trolling, it's me speaking the utter truth. I don't know how you can't comprehend that, you're probably part of the deranged, no values in life group that resorts to favouring moderators on a forum so you have a shot at having some control for once in your life at something. I suggest some counselling.
    It's not the utter truth, it's a blatant lie. I post only what I think and it has nothing to do with the mod position or favoring them. If anything I have said seems like I'm "trying to be mod material" then maybe it's because I AM mod material.

    Take a chill pill and stop attempting to troll me, I'd deny the mod offer if it ever came. I don't have the time for it, nor the desire to be one.
  • Dagnastyy wrote: »
    You know Limes, if Moderators would strictly follow the rules in place and never make judgement calls, you'd probably get infracted (if not banned) for almost every post you make non-regarding technical support.

    You should be glad they give you some lax.

    I would be happy to follow the rules exactly as written. I doubt anyone would like it. Sure, I have in the past crossed the line. I've made mistakes and I've admitted to them. We are human. Sure, we are expected to make fewer mistakes than everyone else, that's part of the gig. We signed on to moderate these forums, that is fact. We also want to make it a smoother experience for the users and I don't think a team full of mindless drones, enforcing every rule to every dotted i and every crossed t is the way to do it. Do you?

    If so, I will be happy to oblige and I'm sure the others would too.
  • Put it in the coaches perspective though.
    If you as a person complains, the coach either will tell you to suck it up or let you have a break. Their method of saying it in such a fashion could be also affected by their mood. Where they say that you are gonna do 10 more laps cuz they said so, or you spouted out arguments, or just because they stubbed their toe that morning.

    No person is perfect and usually they deal with it after its been brought up if its a serious issue. That is also why you as forumer's have the option to report MOD behavior as well. What can be done, can be reversed. Rather simple.
    I'd expect people who have problems to come to me about it and talk about it properly if they want justification, and people have and usually come to terms with it.

    We are people, not robots. Human nature is to make mistakes.

    This I agree with. I had a few encroachments with some moderators already, but nothing that wasn't handled in a proper manner.

    It amazes me that the most vocal persons accusing moderators of immaturity and improper behavior are also the ones known to be hateful and brashly immature as well.
  • I would be happy to follow the rules exactly as written. I doubt anyone would like it. Sure, I have in the past crossed the line. I've made mistakes and I've admitted to them. We are human. Sure, we are expected to make fewer mistakes than everyone else, that's part of the gig. We signed on to moderate these forums, that is fact. We also want to make it a smoother experience for the users and I don't think a team full of mindless drones, enforcing every rule to every dotted i and every crossed t is the way to do it. Do you?

    If so, I will be happy to oblige and I'm sure the others would too.

    Thing is people will pretty much catalog all the wrongs we make and suddenly forget all the things we do right....

    In terms or right/wrong the ratio is WAAAAAAY heavily weighed on the right side.
  • Dagnastyy wrote: »
    This I agree with. I had a few encroachments with some moderators already, but nothing that wasn't handled in a proper manner.

    It amazes me that the most vocal persons accusing moderators of immaturity and improper behavior are also the ones known to be hateful and brashly immature as well.

    Well so far, it seems to me RawrJafricaan is working on NOT being that way. Just because someone does something, doesnt mean they will always be that way. You know what I mean?
  • Dagnastyy wrote: »
    You know Limes, if Moderators would strictly follow the rules in place and never make judgement calls, you'd probably get infracted (if not banned) for almost every post you make non-regarding technical support.

    You should be glad they give you some lax.
    ^^ Ill stay out of that whole thing just for obvious reasons. But i agree.
    Put it in the coaches perspective though.
    If you as a person complains, the coach either will tell you to suck it up or let you have a break. Their method of saying it in such a fashion could be also affected by their mood. Where they say that you are gonna do 10 more laps cuz they said so, or you spouted out arguments, or just because they stubbed their toe that morning.

    No person is perfect and usually they deal with it after its been brought up if its a serious issue. That is also why you as forumer's have the option to report MOD behavior as well. What can be done, can be reversed. Rather simple.
    I'd expect people who have problems to come to me about it and talk about it properly if they want justification, and people have and usually come to terms with it.

    We are people, not robots. Human nature is to make mistakes.
    Very well written, thats how I roll. Mad respect.
  • Dagnastyy wrote: »
    This I agree with. I had a few encroachments with some moderators already, but nothing that wasn't handled in a proper manner.

    It amazes me that the most vocal persons accusing moderators of immaturity and improper behavior are also the ones known to be hateful and brashly immature as well.

    True that.




    Dagnasty is a cool guy. Ive had some pretty mature arguments and just general chats with him. Much like Talonblaze before MOD.
  • I would be happy to follow the rules exactly as written. I doubt anyone would like it. Sure, I have in the past crossed the line. I've made mistakes and I've admitted to them. We are human. Sure, we are expected to make fewer mistakes than everyone else, that's part of the gig. We signed on to moderate these forums, that is fact. We also want to make it a smoother experience for the users and I don't think a team full of mindless drones, enforcing every rule to every dotted i and every crossed t is the way to do it. Do you?

    If so, I will be happy to oblige and I'm sure the others would too.

    As long as you give me the chance to surrender before shooting me, I think I could handle it. ;)
  • Limeeeee wrote: »
    How many times have I seen Maven make a post regarding the forum rules? Honestly, what is the kid doing with his life? Those are the people that should be banned, the people that don't intrigue, or express anything useful. It is sad that it's these types of people that often become moderators.

    - Quoting the forum rules in every thread
    - Favouring the current moderators with no supporting evidence
    - Showing no enthusiasm towards new ideas/discussions
    - Wanting to be in control (sign of weakness in real life)
    - Having a very diminutive sense of improvement

    Such a shame.

    Whats wrong with letting other people know the rules? Rules that should have been known in the first place. Maven gives a good solid reminder. Giving them either a chance to fix what they've done or change the attitude before we deal with it, in a probably less than desirable fashion for most users.

    You already meet 3/5 of those requirements yourself Limes. Except less rules oriented.
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