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aint on complexity kiddo u need to stop trolling and kidding your self. you are a joke to begin with. you dont even know me kiddo coming from a kid that hacked his way into cf sad. and yes my exp is true sorry if you dont like it. and complexity cs with frod and warden that retired aint complexity anymore it is EG elitegaming. enough said stop trolling and get a life.
my bad its evil geniuses
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TASTELIMES wrote: »you're the definition of a joke. I wouldn't be surprised if you were on this joke of a team called compLexity because it's the closest you'll ever get to actually being on a cs team which you ever so greatly like to lie about when saying you have cs experience.
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aint on complexity kiddo u need to stop trolling and kidding your self. you are a joke to begin with. you dont even know me kiddo coming from a kid that hacked his way into cf sad. and yes my exp is true sorry if you dont like it. and complexity cs with frod and warden that retired aint complexity anymore it is EG elitegaming. enough said stop trolling and get a life.
How do you hack yourself into CF? I hacked myself OUT of CF.
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You do realize clients dnt even check for anything if its not on a draft day or a match. And client means nothing these days, ppl can bypass look how long KC did it.
My team will no longer be posting on this thread. Matt please cool down and stop. If your team wants to say we cheat then fine think it in the end Ik were legit.
Okay, I don't want to pop your bubble but you live under a rock the ESL wire is one of the best anti-cheat out there, you know how much freaking money and ressources they spent on coding it, they hired people who had experience with anti virus and deep coding knowledge to get it to work.There is no way you can bypass ESL wirewe are not talking about the poor oudated anti cheat system cevo is still relaying on, unless you are using a very very strong ring0 and ring3 hack who can be use on a external connection or deep inside the computer, there is no such things as ring0 proof hack for crossfire yet.
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I don't want to be harsh or mean but I was talking with Justin TF2 complexity the other day since I was good friend with him when we were playing genesis AD and we were laughing pretty hard at you guys sending an application on the forum for crossfire, you do realize complexity is an invite only team and won't sponsors random people who has no pro experience in lans, tournament or internationnal events under a clan name who is similar to them ? I don't want to make you feel sad and break your dream of playing for a pro team but it won't happen, and I would like to point out the entire community is making fun of you guys for using their tag, not to mention you guys are giving out them a bad name for this kind of behavior, why you don't try to be more original in trying to find a new name that suit you more.I mean it's not like your going to make china blow up again but you know...aint on complexity kiddo u need to stop trolling and kidding your self. you are a joke to begin with. you dont even know me kiddo coming from a kid that hacked his way into cf sad. and yes my exp is true sorry if you dont like it. and complexity cs with frod and warden that retired aint complexity anymore it is EG elitegaming. enough said stop trolling and get a life.
You are not friend with warden and neither friend with frod and I doubt you are in close contact with them as they have been doing nationnal tournament for WCG in Europe for the last months and frod isnt retired he is at IEM 2011 World Championship, in fact their last matches was against SK gaming if you follow the esports scene, you dumb idiot, stop acting like you are a pro esports player. -
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Okay, I don't want to pop your bubble but you live under a rock the ESL wire is one of the best anti-cheat out there, you know how much freaking money and ressources they spent on coding it, they hired people who had experience with anti virus and deep coding knowledge to get it to work.There is no way you can bypass ESL wirewe are not talking about the poor oudated anti cheat system cevo is still relaying on, unless you are using a very very strong ring0 and ring3 hack who can be use on a external connection or deep inside the computer, there is no such things as ring0 proof hack for crossfire yet.
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I don't want to be harsh or mean but I was talking with Justin TF2 complexity the other day since I was good friend with him when we were playing genesis AD and we were laughing pretty hard at you guys sending an application on the forum for crossfire, you do realize complexity is an invite only team and won't sponsors random people who has no pro experience in lans, tournament or internationnal events under a clan name who is similar to them ? I don't want to make you feel sad and break your dream of playing for a pro team but it won't happen, and I would like to point out the entire community is making fun of you guys for using their tag, not to mention you guys are giving out them a bad name for this kind of behavior, why you don't try to be more original in trying to find a new name that suit you more.I mean it's not like your going to make china blow up again but you know...
Nice essay.
The anti cheat isn't anything complicated, obviously, so please don't claim that the programmers of it have experience programming anti virus's. There is no way you can bypass ESL Wire? WHAT? There are numerous private league cheats out for Counter Strike and other ESL-Supported games that do just that, and the anti cheats they use are obviously of similar architecture as Crossfire anti cheat, except there is no such thing as private league cheats for Crossfire because this game isn't competitively active league wise. -
The last recorded true bypass for ESL wire was done by organner and even since organner has been the top number #1 private hack on the net to get around all the anti cheat systems on the net they are still being detected.Don't tell me what to not say, you need to stop acting like you know everything tastelimes, I alway back up my arguments with proof, every games have a different architecture and will never be the same so I don't know where you get your arguements from but each engines are made differently and are adapted for different purpose.The problem isnt with the detection, it's the never ending war between each updates and the developpers of the game.It's much harder to bypass a system then building one.
The price you refer to is the total price for the Anti Cheat development as a whole process. This consists of personnel costs, new server infrastructure, software licensing and more for both Aequitas 2 and ESL Wire Anti-Cheat. Also we added a very talented specialist to our team who has experience in both Anti Virus software and copy protection. But if you want to bring something to a completely new level you have to invest something.
The ring 0 setup will make it a lot easier to detect cheats as our software is set in the depth of the systems just like any other drivers. So we can see and inspect way more than ESL Aequitas could. Processes, programms and even memory are now in our reach. If you want to make it simple: It's working on the same level as some rootkits or viruses do. Of course you might think that we can so also check your mails, browser cache, saved password or other stuff but ESL Wire Anti-Cheat is only active while you are playing an ESL match or gather. Also all major Anti Virus tools have already white listed ESL Wire in the latest state because it is not meaning any harm your system or private data at all. During the active time we can see the programs running and what they are doing. It would kill our main goal of a good performing and stable tool if we scan your whole PC while your playing, wouldn't it?
I invite you reading this article since you don't seem to know much about the subject :
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Any league that hires people like Prepaid as staff probably take the same approach when hiring programmers. Trust me, none of the programmers who programmed this anti cheat were any graduated computer science students who work for Kaspersky Lab in their spare time. -
TASTELIMES wrote: »side note:
Any league that hires people like Prepaid as staff probably take the same approach when hiring programmers. Trust me, none of the programmers who programmed this anti cheat were any graduated computer science students who work for Kaspersky Lab in their spare time.
Russian technology is oudated, old, unreliable...Kaspersky Lab suck ass and is not cost effective.
....dude you need to get outside stop believing theres aliens on mars and realize ESL is a business and yes they hire people who have past experience in programming and are graduated from computer science schools.Otherwise they wouldn't be able to credit their technology and market their product unless its credited by a pro.Do you even know how much money ESL make from the sponsors and the ESL premium content, they get ridiculous amount of ressources, you think they would hire a simple programmer who has been learning c++ in high school, if you want something that work, you need to invest in something. -
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Russian technology is oudated, old, unreliable...Kaspersky Lab suck ass and is not cost effective.
....dude you need to get outside stop believing theres aliens on mars and realize ESL is a business and yes they hire people who have past experience in programming and are graduated from computer science schools.Otherwise they wouldn't be able to credit their technology and market their product unless its credited by a pro.Do you even know how much money ESL make from the sponsors and the ESL premium content, they get ridiculous amount of ressources, you think they would hire a simple programmer who has been learning c++ in high school, if you want something that work, you need to invest in something.
No, they don't make much at all for the time they spend on the computer. Stop hyping up this league, there is no money to be made in any eSport business and stop thinking that their developers are well-educated professionals, they aren't. -
proove it and I will believe you, otherwise your point isnt valid, esports is a business wake up and yes ESL rack up ****load of money.
Yes it's a business, the lemonade stand I operated in front of my house when I was six was also a business. You make no valid points. I'll consider ESL a business when the staff start getting annual salaries, until then, it's a random online league that doesn't change the shape of the future for the next generation which a true company does. -
It's not up to you to decide if ESL is a business or not depending on how they proceed to hire their staff, there is people who are hired and are paid.You are basing your arguments on the basic face of the league when you have no clue of the bigger picture behind it.The difference between your rack of lemonades is that you are not a registered business model when ESL is actualy one, ESL doesn't change the shape of the future ? their goal isnt to change the day after tommorow, their goal is to provide a way to play tournaments in exchange of prizes and to play at higher competitive level, they are not a simple random league, they have official nationnal tournaments sponsored by huge companies.
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TASTELIMES wrote: »Yes it's a business, the lemonade stand I operated in front of my house when I was six was also a business. You make no valid points. I'll consider ESL a business when the staff start getting annual salaries, until then, it's a random online league that doesn't change the shape of the future for the next generation which a true company does.
Edit: This is really off topic tbh. -_- I just realized this was my Cast post and I wrote an essay above -.- -
It's not up to you to decide if ESL is a business or not depending on how they proceed to hire their staff, there is people who are hired and are paid.You are basing your arguments on the basic face of the league when you have no clue of the bigger picture behind it.The difference between your rack of lemonades is that you are not a registered business model when ESL is actualy one, ESL doesn't change the shape of the future ? their goal isnt to change the day after tommorow, their goal is to provide a way to play tournaments in exchange of prizes and to play at higher competitive level, they are not a simple random league, they have official nationnal tournaments sponsored by huge companies.
Being sponsored by huge companies doesn't change the fact that they don't make as much as you're hyping them up to make. eSports isn't by any means a place where you can start a successful business, really, whoever thinks it is a place where you can start a successful business needs to get the **** off their computer and see the real world. The basis of ESL's revenue comes from Premium, guess what, they don't have many premium members. You need to stop acting like ESL is a fortune 500 company, it isn't, it's a ****ing online league in a very small market. Use your head, they don't make a lot of money. -
TASTELIMES wrote: »Being sponsored by huge companies doesn't change the fact that they don't make as much as you're hyping them up to make. eSports isn't by any means a place where you can start a successful business, really, whoever thinks it is a place where you can start a successful business needs to get the **** off their computer and see the real world. The basis of ESL's revenue comes from Premium, guess what, they don't have many premium members. You need to stop acting like ESL is a fortune 500 company, it isn't, it's a ****ing online league in a very small market. Use your head, they don't make a lot of money.
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That is completely irrelevant to this topic and anything you stated above. I don't understand were Marketing / Business etc comes into play when this post was for my casting? Flame and troll... I'm done with you.
This has nothing to do with your casting, calm down. I'm having a discussion about ESL as a business, something that interests me much more than this game or the league itself. -
TASTELIMES wrote: »This has nothing to do with your casting, calm down. I'm having a discussion about ESL as a business, something that interests me much more than this game or the league itself.
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Thats completely fine but this thread is not meant for that discussion. If you would like to discuss it, please create your own thread and keep it on topic rather then just arguing with people in this post.
Its my fault in the first place I shouldnt have mentioned it in the first place but im done, this tastelimes is very uneducated, and its a waste of time, he has no knowledge of how leagues work and make arguements without taking points and proof into consideration, not to mention nobody ever mentioned ESL to be a huge multi-million corporation, ESL rack up a lot of money but they dont make millions they are still making money as business wich was my point in the beginning.
Anyway on this last note, I appreciated what ESL has done with the North American side so far, keep it that way ! -
Okay, I don't want to pop your bubble but you live under a rock the ESL wire is one of the best anti-cheat out there, you know how much freaking money and ressources they spent on coding it, they hired people who had experience with anti virus and deep coding knowledge to get it to work.There is no way you can bypass ESL wirewe are not talking about the poor oudated anti cheat system cevo is still relaying on, unless you are using a very very strong ring0 and ring3 hack who can be use on a external connection or deep inside the computer, there is no such things as ring0 proof hack for crossfire yet.
Side note
I don't want to be harsh or mean but I was talking with Justin TF2 complexity the other day since I was good friend with him when we were playing genesis AD and we were laughing pretty hard at you guys sending an application on the forum for crossfire, you do realize complexity is an invite only team and won't sponsors random people who has no pro experience in lans, tournament or internationnal events under a clan name who is similar to them ? I don't want to make you feel sad and break your dream of playing for a pro team but it won't happen, and I would like to point out the entire community is making fun of you guys for using their tag, not to mention you guys are giving out them a bad name for this kind of behavior, why you don't try to be more original in trying to find a new name that suit you more.I mean it's not like your going to make china blow up again but you know...
You are not friend with warden and neither friend with frod and I doubt you are in close contact with them as they have been doing nationnal tournament for WCG in Europe for the last months and frod isnt retired he is at IEM 2011 World Championship, in fact their last matches was against SK gaming if you follow the esports scene, you dumb idiot, stop acting like you are a pro esports player.
are you dumb kid didnt say i was close with them idiot get your facts straight if ur gonna troll. it frod isnt retired idiot i said warden was if u where to read the facts straight u dam troll.
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are you dumb kid didnt say i was close with them idiot get your facts straight if ur gonna troll. it frod isnt retired idiot i said warden was if u where to read the facts straight u dam troll.
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Why do you say "/closed" after each post that doesnt even make sense, usually after one 'takes over' a thread by posting something intellectual, while you cant get a grasp of the english language.
Let's talk business, you really havent had any experience in ANY game that even has a half life engine. The most source experience you've got is mIRC scrims at the VERY BEST. I've seen you play in game and quite frankly, it's like watching an apple rot to the core. You're truly clueless about the eSports scene and I can easily tell you haven't passed open.
I'll finish this off quickly since I have a business meeting with my colleague Mr Bateman, please stop posting completely irrelevant posts when you really have no idea about the topic you're trying to say you've lived for in the past 8 years. -
Yamada___Su wrote: »Why do you say "/closed" after each post that doesnt even make sense, usually after one 'takes over' a thread by posting something intellectual, while you cant get a grasp of the english language.
Let's talk business, you really havent had any experience in ANY game that even has a half life engine. The most source experience you've got is mIRC scrims at the VERY BEST. I've seen you play in game and quite frankly, it's like watching an apple rot to the core. You're truly clueless about the eSports scene and I can easily tell you haven't passed open.
I'll finish this off quickly since I have a business meeting with my colleague Mr Bateman, please stop posting completely irrelevant posts when you really have no idea about the topic you're trying to say you've lived for in the past 8 years.
just another clueless troller kid enough said... -
Yamada___Su wrote: »Why do you say "/closed" after each post that doesnt even make sense, usually after one 'takes over' a thread by posting something intellectual, while you cant get a grasp of the english language.
Let's talk business, you really havent had any experience in ANY game that even has a half life engine. The most source experience you've got is mIRC scrims at the VERY BEST. I've seen you play in game and quite frankly, it's like watching an apple rot to the core. You're truly clueless about the eSports scene and I can easily tell you haven't passed open.
I'll finish this off quickly since I have a business meeting with my colleague Mr Bateman, please stop posting completely irrelevant posts when you really have no idea about the topic you're trying to say you've lived for in the past 8 years.
btw kid its wasnt source it was 1.6 and if ur gonna try to troll try to get ur fact straight.. dam ignorant 12yr olds
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