WCG USA and CrossFire
Not looking good folks...
"In other news, we announced in March that ESS, our sister company, has been selected as the Strategic Partner for WCG USA. While this is largely going to be a development year for the property, we're working to re-launch a new community oriented WCG USA website, going to include game titles most relevant to the US market, and host activities that really engage the broader community. It's an exciting opportunity to be able to control the direction of such a prestigious property and it will compliment ESEA well."
-Craig Levine
"In other news, we announced in March that ESS, our sister company, has been selected as the Strategic Partner for WCG USA. While this is largely going to be a development year for the property, we're working to re-launch a new community oriented WCG USA website, going to include game titles most relevant to the US market, and host activities that really engage the broader community. It's an exciting opportunity to be able to control the direction of such a prestigious property and it will compliment ESEA well."
-Craig Levine
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****Dungeon wrote: »this means no Crossfire in WCG
WCG will still have Cross Fire as part of the major part of the events, but the way it says "going to include game titles most relevant to the US market" makes it seem as though only big games such as Counter Strike and Starcraft 2 will hold qualifiers within the US. So there is a possibility a US team will not be able to make it to WCG, but there still might be a chance for a team from Canada to go. Honestly I thought there might be a possibility for this to happen, since certain communities are either too small or are not prevalent enough for certain organizations to take notice. -
WCG will still have Cross Fire as part of the major part of the events, but the way it says "going to include game titles most relevant to the US market" makes it seem as though only big games such as Counter Strike and Starcraft 2 will hold qualifiers within the US. So there is a possibility a US team will not be able to make it to WCG, but there still might be a chance for a team from CA to go.
I think this is what you mean but do you mean Combat Arms for "CA"? -
Charlie, I'm really happy for you and I'mma let you finish....But anyone who matters knew this news before the announcement. #JustSaying
It was looking bleak even before speculation...The guys in ESSA looked at CF once before and turned their heads. And following the conversation that went down last week, I went around telling the people it would pertain to as I seen fit. I say G4Box hosts a LAN and that's it. Separate the men from the boys. Want to play in the world of e-Sports, than do as they do...Just host in Toronto. All the 'sponsored' teams will be fine; And interested teams. Their sponsors will book their flights and lodging. Teams will compete as a qualifier SHOULD BE for WCG. Something of this caliber SHOULD NOT be decided online with the spectrum of pings KNOWING that ping plays a big enough factor to be considered unfair in cases OR randomly picked players. Straight up, do this like it's supposed to...Take it as serious as it's supposed to be taken.
Edit Note: No attacks at Charlie, Don't ban me for 'trolling' an LPK player again. He knows I mean well here. -
I think this is what you mean but do you mean Combat Arms for "CA"?
Canada.BOBBYnoWOGL wrote: »Charlie, I'm really happy for you and I'mma let you finish....But anyone who matters knew this news before the announcement. #JustSaying
It was looking bleak even before speculation...The guys in ESSA looked at CF once before and turned their heads. And following the conversation that went down last week, I went around telling the people it would pertain to as I seen fit. I say G4Box hosts a LAN and that's it. Separate the men from the boys. Want to play in the world of e-Sports, than do as they do...Just host in Toronto. All the 'sponsored' teams will be fine; And interested teams. Their sponsors will book their flights and lodging. Teams will compete as a qualifier SHOULD BE for WCG. Something of this caliber SHOULD NOT be decided online with the spectrum of pings KNOWING that ping plays a big enough factor to be considered unfair in cases OR randomly picked players. Straight up, do this like it's supposed to...Take it as serious as it's supposed to be taken.
Edit Note: No attacks at Charlie, Don't ban me for 'trolling' an LPK player again. He knows I mean well here.
Good post. -
BOBBYnoWOGL wrote: »Charlie, I'm really happy for you and I'mma let you finish....But anyone who matters knew this news before the announcement. #JustSaying
It was looking bleak even before speculation...The guys in ESSA looked at CF once before and turned their heads. And following the conversation that went down last week, I went around telling the people it would pertain to as I seen fit. I say G4Box hosts a LAN and that's it. Separate the men from the boys. Want to play in the world of e-Sports, than do as they do...Just host in Toronto. All the 'sponsored' teams will be fine; And interested teams. Their sponsors will book their flights and lodging. Teams will compete as a qualifier SHOULD BE for WCG. Something of this caliber SHOULD NOT be decided online with the spectrum of pings KNOWING that ping plays a big enough factor to be considered unfair in cases OR randomly picked players. Straight up, do this like it's supposed to...Take it as serious as it's supposed to be taken.
Edit Note: No attacks at Charlie, Don't ban me for 'trolling' an LPK player again. He knows I mean well here.
Good post! -
Sponsored teams in this game (that have been given true backing) - one.
Location of said teams - Canada, Ontario (mostly).
Derp?
Facedown is sponsored by gamergrub. We get free gamergrub and free flights and lodging. Hows that a sponsor for you! -
BOBBYnoWOGL wrote: »Charlie, I'm really happy for you and I'mma let you finish....But anyone who matters knew this news before the announcement. #JustSaying
It was looking bleak even before speculation...The guys in ESSA looked at CF once before and turned their heads. And following the conversation that went down last week, I went around telling the people it would pertain to as I seen fit. I say G4Box hosts a LAN and that's it. Separate the men from the boys. Want to play in the world of e-Sports, than do as they do...Just host in Toronto. All the 'sponsored' teams will be fine; And interested teams. Their sponsors will book their flights and lodging. Teams will compete as a qualifier SHOULD BE for WCG. Something of this caliber SHOULD NOT be decided online with the spectrum of pings KNOWING that ping plays a big enough factor to be considered unfair in cases OR randomly picked players. Straight up, do this like it's supposed to...Take it as serious as it's supposed to be taken.
Edit Note: No attacks at Charlie, Don't ban me for 'trolling' an LPK player again. He knows I mean well here.
Well I wouldn't say it was looking bleak at all. CF got announced as a grand final game, and wcg usa sent teams to a bunch of f2p games last year as well.
http://www.wcg.com/6th/tournament/country/country_detail.asp?country=N3N01
It would only make sense then that a competent organizer like ESS would be able to develop further upon what the wcg.us committee did in previous years. I assumed that ESSA would host a lan qualifier in the US to decide which team would go to the grand finals. I mean isn't that what the WCG national finals have always been for? -
Sponsored teams in this game (that have been given true backing) - one.
Location of said teams - Canada, Ontario (mostly).
Derp?
you don't need sponsors to go to lans. each year cs and css teams go to lans in us and canada, all mostly with limited financial support from sponsors. even big teams pay out of pocket for most of the stuff. unless you are on salary, gaming is an expensive hobby. -
you don't need sponsors to go to lans. each year cs and css teams go to lans in us and canada, all mostly with limited financial support from sponsors. even big teams pay out of pocket for most of the stuff. unless you are on salary, gaming is an expensive hobby.
Difference being that most games have a higher median age. To send fifteen and sixteen year old kids to a Lan* in a different country is different than an eighteen year old going. Also, if you read the post again, you will see that it implies sponsors willing to pay for lodging and flight.
BUT THEN AGAIN, I RARELY NERDED IT UP SO MUCH WHEN I WAS STILL IN HIGH SCHOOL, SO WHO KNOWS.
*Qualifier Lans for a fairly unknown and relatively bad, free FPS game. -
Difference being that most games have a higher median age. To send fifteen and sixteen year old kids to a Lans* in a different country is different than an eighteen year old going. Also, if you read the post again, you will see that it implies sponsors willing to pay for lodging and flight.
BUT THEN AGAIN, I RARELY NERDED IT UP SO MUCH WHEN I WAS STILL IN HIGH SCHOOL, SO WHO KNOWS.
*Qualifier Lans for a fairly unknown and relatively bad, free FPS game.
the majority of people that go to cs lans, know they most likely don't have a shot at winning. they go because they like to go. the biggest issue like you said is people don't have jobs. -
That is what i'm saying though. If you are going to have a qualifier Lan for this game, held in Toronto, you will get such a small turnout that it pretty much kills the whole 'qualifier' part of it.
Local Lans are different, as it usually doesn't include taking time off school or alot of bank.
Also, CS is one of THE GAMES to play at Lans. This is CF. 80% of the player base is BR/Euro. -
the majority of people that go to cs lans, know they most likely don't have a shot at winning. they go because they like to go. the biggest issue like you said is people don't have jobs.
CS is different though. A CF lan is like playing in the ball pit at McDonalds Playland. CS is a different crowd. The upper tier of gamers are 20+. So in most cases, people show more respect. Apposed to what you see here. It's a different mentality. Granted they DO have ignorant people in CS....but LANS are different. It's a good time. CF is just too young....The LAN would only be 6-8 serious teams at most for CF. But still- ...that's how it should be decided for WCG without argument. No WOGL, no ESL, no nothing. Straight weekend event...
"But Bobby, that's not fair. Some of us can't afford to go to Toronto." This is e-Sports. Pokemon is down the hall in room 409. NOTHING in e-Sports is cheap. Players spend THOUSANDS every year in traveling, only to lose. There comes a time when the line is drawn...this may be a F2P, but your F2P'ing for large sums of cash. If it's not serious enough for you, than why bother....You can't win money if you don't spend money. -
BOBBYnoWOGL wrote: »CS is different though. A CF lan is like playing in the ball pit at McDonalds Playland. CS is a different crowd. The upper tier of gamers are 20+. So in most cases, people show more respect. Apposed to what you see here. It's a different mentality. Granted they DO have ignorant people in CS....but LANS are different. It's a good time. CF is just too young....The LAN would only be 6-8 serious teams at most for CF. But still- ...that's how it should be decided for WCG without argument. No WOGL, no ESL, no nothing. Straight weekend event...
"But Bobby, that's not fair. Some of us can't afford to go to Toronto." This is e-Sports. Pokemon is down the hall in room 409. NOTHING in e-Sports is cheap. Players spend THOUSANDS every year in traveling, only to lose. There comes a time when the line is drawn...this may be a F2P, but your F2P'ing for large sums of cash. If it's not serious enough for you, than why bother....You can't win money if you don't spend money.
The way i see it Im spending hundreds to thousands to go to a pretty sweet place and chill with friends for a weekend. With a chance to win my $$ back and more. I would do it just for the experience! -
BOBBYnoWOGL wrote: »CS is different though. A CF lan is like playing in the ball pit at McDonalds Playland. CS is a different crowd. The upper tier of gamers are 20+. So in most cases, people show more respect. Apposed to what you see here. It's a different mentality. Granted they DO have ignorant people in CS....but LANS are different. It's a good time. CF is just too young....The LAN would only be 6-8 serious teams at most for CF. But still- ...that's how it should be decided for WCG without argument. No WOGL, no ESL, no nothing. Straight weekend event...
"But Bobby, that's not fair. Some of us can't afford to go to Toronto." This is e-Sports. Pokemon is down the hall in room 409. NOTHING in e-Sports is cheap. Players spend THOUSANDS every year in traveling, only to lose. There comes a time when the line is drawn...this may be a F2P, but your F2P'ing for large sums of cash. If it's not serious enough for you, than why bother....You can't win money if you don't spend money.
You saying people in CS lans don't act ignorant ? -
The way i see it Im spending hundreds to thousands to go to a pretty sweet place and chill with friends for a weekend. With a chance to win my $$ back and more. I would do it just for the experience!
Ideally. We had it all mapped out if they were hosting in NYC. Everyone was staying at my place. BBQ, Swim, everything. Your paying for a vacation + event. I've done alot of traveling for gaming and I've had some TERRIBLE aways, but more GREAT times. It's all about the company you keep.sdRENNERRRR wrote: »You saying people in CS lans don't act ignorant ?
I'm saying the crowds are different. NO LAN will you EVER see ppl not acting ignorant. This isn't Sunday Gaming at Sunday School. I just KNOW the worlds are different. CF Lan would be more similar to a middle school dance. CPL had some great LAN events. In CS there are honestly more mature-minded players, than those who run their gums; And I'm NOT talking online [CEVO, CAL, etc.. They've got some TROLLS. CAL was the worst]. Not talking pee-on LANS either. I'm talking event LANs. When you can stand here and say you've been to CS events of; CPL, ESWC, ESEA....And hold light to the two communities and tell me they'd be ANYWHERE close to each other...Than we're speaking with credibility. LAN'ing in a cafe or your bedroom, or a small pocket tournament in comparison to a stage event comes with two ENTIRELY DIFFERENT crowds. -
BOBBYnoWOGL wrote: »Pokemon is down the hall in room 409.
http://www.pokemonworldchampionships.com/
DON'T YOU BE TRASHIN ON MY POKEMON BOBBY, DON'T YOU DARE!!! -
BOBBYnoWOGL wrote: »Ideally. We had it all mapped out if they were hosting in NYC. Everyone was staying at my place. BBQ, Swim, everything. Your paying for a vacation + event. I've done alot of traveling for gaming and I've had some TERRIBLE aways, but more GREAT times. It's all about the company you keep.
Agreed. Back when i used to play yugioh in a team we would travel to different cities across the country to Shonen jumps to qualify for nationals. Ive been to 20+ events(usually texas) and my company was always a fun one to have. Ive got experience in traveling so im good. -
That is what i'm saying though. If you are going to have a qualifier Lan for this game, held in Toronto, you will get such a small turnout that it pretty much kills the whole 'qualifier' part of it.
Local Lans are different, as it usually doesn't include taking time off school or alot of bank.
Also, CS is one of THE GAMES to play at Lans. This is CF. 80% of the player base is BR/Euro.
lol theres nothing wrong with euro's and some of us would gladly pay out of our own pockets(cus well gamings fun..... mostly), i payed out of my own pocket for source but probably not this game lol unless they fix it up. -
Agreed. Back when i used to play yugioh in a team we would travel to different cities across the country to Shonen jumps to qualify for nationals. Ive been to 20+ events(usually texas) and my company was always a fun one to have. Ive got experience in traveling so im good.
^same. Like a good yugioh nerd that i was i ran across the country through qualifiers. Didnt have any teams though, simple 1on1 elimination's that led me to top 16 yugioh nerds of PT. You cant get any lower in life. -
BOBBYnoWOGL wrote: »Ideally. We had it all mapped out if they were hosting in NYC. Everyone was staying at my place. BBQ, Swim, everything. Your paying for a vacation + event. I've done alot of traveling for gaming and I've had some TERRIBLE aways, but more GREAT times. It's all about the company you keep.
I'm saying the crowds are different. NO LAN will you EVER see ppl not acting ignorant. This isn't Sunday Gaming at Sunday School. I just KNOW the worlds are different. CF Lan would be more similar to a middle school dance. CPL had some great LAN events. In CS there are honestly more mature-minded players, than those who run their gums; And I'm NOT talking online [CEVO, CAL, etc.. They've got some TROLLS. CAL was the worst]. Not talking pee-on LANS either. I'm talking event LANs. When you can stand here and say you've been to CS events of; CPL, ESWC, ESEA....And hold light to the two communities and tell me they'd be ANYWHERE close to each other...Than we're speaking with credibility. LAN'ing in a cafe or your bedroom, or a small pocket tournament in comparison to a stage event comes with two ENTIRELY DIFFERENT crowds.
I'M STAYING AT YOUR HOUSE BOB!
Either way it would be fun. You know the trolls wouldn't run their mouths. The known cheaters would show up and get shut down. The real teams would come out on top. Everyone has a chance to meet everyone and throw down for a weekend event.
I'd sign the petition *clicks his pink pen* where do I sign? -
Agreed. Back when i used to play yugioh in a team we would travel to different cities across the country to Shonen jumps to qualify for nationals. Ive been to 20+ events(usually texas) and my company was always a fun one to have. Ive got experience in traveling so im good.
I used to love it. You meet some cool people...and you end up seeing them event after event. That's why I was kind of hoping the trigger would have been pulled on WCG. Would have been pretty cool to see some of the guys. Now I cross my fingers for something in Toronto? If we can't stir things up in my city, I'm coming to LifeLine to do it there. -
BOBBYnoWOGL wrote: »I used to love it. You meet some cool people...and you end up seeing them event after event. That's why I was kind of hoping the trigger would have been pulled on WCG. Would have been pretty cool to see some of the guys. Now I cross my fingers for something in Toronto? If we can't stir things up in my city, I'm coming to LifeLine to do it there.
:O i'd be down to lan in New York -
I'M STAYING AT YOUR HOUSE BOB!
Either way it would be fun. You know the trolls wouldn't run their mouths. The known cheaters would show up and get shut down. The real teams would come out on top. Everyone has a chance to meet everyone and throw down for a weekend event.
I'd sign the petition *clicks his pink pen* where do I sign?
HAHA! CF Stayaway, haha. Was talking to a guy on my team about it; "My house, the pool, the beach...and EVERYONE inside and spread around the patio playing CF...nobody in the pool or anything, haha. NERD FEST x)"
If G4Box had the budget, it'd be AWESOME to see similar events like they have in China. The US boys fly in to Toronto. Arrive in a Cross Fire Bus
:O i'd be down to lan in New YorkIf it's somewhere in the North east, I'd go.
We're waiting on the word for the WCG qualifier. Regardless of CF, we're going to be meeting up and hanging out.
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