Premium = No Hacks
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UKDissident wrote: »No only a few have the proper VIP, what everyone has is a cracked vip hack and some other download from a site I won't mention.
well, i vote to z8games do a lawsuit against the site you haven't mentioned, also, i vote to them do a lawsuit against every single hacker that enters in the game >:[ -
UKDissident wrote: »Yea if they remove vote kicking from this server it would be a good idea, and sure a few people who will pay just to "annoy us" but guess what? the 5000 other broke ass hak noobs won't.
Exact-a-mondo!!
Thats just my point. As many will agree NOTHING will ever solve the hack problem 150%. But you can sure cut back on the number that do. The sheer number of rooms I get into where i find myself against players sitting in respawn area shooting through every wall on the map and killing everyone before you can leave your base is staggering. IF we could simply cut that back, I would be more than willing to pay for a private Premium server for that reason alone. Its not the 500 players or so with VIPs .. its the 5,ooo players with noob hacks destroying the game and my account im worried about.
PS. That being said. Could we please keep this thread on topic. Thnx guys
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FesterAdams wrote: »Exact-a-mondo!!
Thats just my point. As many will agree NOTHING will ever solve the hack problem 150%. But you can sure cut back on the number that do. The sheer number of rooms I get into where i find myself against players sitting in respawn area shooting through every wall on the map and killing everyone before you can leave your base is staggering. IF we could simply cut that back, I would be more than willing to pay for a private Premium server for that reason alone. Its not the 500 players or so with VIPs .. its the 5,ooo players with noob hacks destroying the game and my account im worried about.
PS. That being said. Could we please keep this thread on topic. Thnx guys
well, we just need some active GM's with the power to ban a person by just looking at it >.<
so he can monitor many games by entering them (not as a player indeed, just as a invisible spectator) looking at each player, if he finds a hacker he just push a button and he's banned, won't it be cool people?
but hell, we're not allowed to dream here >.< -
well, we just need some active GM's with the power to ban a person by just looking at it >.<
so he can monitor many games by entering them (not as a player indeed, just as a invisible spectator) looking at each player, if he finds a hacker he just push a button and he's banned, won't it be cool people?
but hell, we're not allowed to dream here >.<
Would be cool but not likely to happen they can't even get an anti hack company to patch a known hack swiftly:p -
UKDissident wrote: »Would be cool but not likely to happen they can't even get an anti hack company to patch a known hack swiftly:p
Can't really blame Z8games for that. Out of all the FPS games like this one, most the hacks are the exact same. Only thing you can really do is curb the amount of them by putting obstacles such as crafty ideas like mine
That and the fact that Z8 is not the only site hosting CF. It is probably red tape and copy rights that need to be approved before anything is implemented as well. -
FesterAdams wrote: »Can't really blame Z8games for that. Out of all the FPS games like this one, most the hacks are the exact same. Only thing you can really do is curb the amount of them by putting obstacles such as crafty ideas like mine
That and the fact that Z8 is not the only site hosting CF. It is probably red tape and copy rights that need to be approved before anything is implemented as well.
They just need to tell xtrap to get off their ass IMO. -
KingstarKB wrote: »Nice suggestion there,
but like everything in the world it has negative sides to it too, the main one is that only those who spend money on CF can get it. There are a number of players out there , including me, that have been playing for a long while now and never buy ZP(or spend money on CF).
It surely will make life easier for a few people, even though the suggestion to make a server for people who played the game 2+ years is a little better (in my opinion.).
+1, even though it won't affect me in any way at all.
Same for me i only bought zp once and it was 20k and i haven't bought any ever since -
HahaForums wrote: »Same for me i only bought zp once and it was 20k and i haven't bought any ever since
Well here is a prime example of a point i wanted to make...
When you bought yourself ZP to get extra GP .. BulletProof gear .. Crates .. or whatever, was it the fact that you didnt want to waste money on a game that has certain issues? Would you purchase a premium membership for a small fee every few - 6 months to ensure your investment in the game was secure? -
FesterAdams wrote: »Just had a thought. Would like some feedback.
- 1st I would like to ask that anyone reading this understand that this is NOT a hack hate/complaint thread. So only post accordingly.
I have been a gamer for the past 6+ years of MMO's and MMO RPG's. Some of the other games I have played in the past have a "PREMIUM" membership that holds "PREMIUM" privileges.
I fully understand that this is a "FREE" online MMO which is available around the world for anyone to play. The biggest Problem is the illegal programs that some players use. However, there are certain perks to buying Ultimate Games Cards etc. (special weapons, virtual currency, and whatnot). Many players do spend money on this game.
Here is my thought .. What about creating a Premium Package for players who want clean servers. Open up 2+ servers, for premium players only, to use for a small fee (example $20-$30 US funds every 5-6 months) and have it heavily monitored. Any players proved to be using hacks will lose their premium membership and banned from premium servers. That and the fact I doubt many of the true hacks will pay money just to get banned, making it a clean server. Not to mention that many of the new player who come to play CrossFire and leave due to the number of hacks out there would be reduced drastically.
This is just a thought. It would create more revenue for Z8games to cover the overhead for the new server and moderation of it. I would not expect this to be a widely accepted idea by all players. But the ones who truly do spend money on here, & don't hack, may feel a bit more comfortable in spending a bit of extra cash in securing their investments in the game.
I for one would and could name umpteen more players who stand behind me on this notion.
Regards,
As I said on another post, I agree with a subscription server or more - but not the heavily monitored part since they will lack the services to other servers/players. They should just add a screenshot feature which takes a snap shot at times like Anti-Cheats and top of the line Anti-Hacking Systems such as Punk, VAC, etc. Not relating the provability it gives, but the concept of the screenshot feature. -
No
All players in game should be equal.
We already have some "premium" stuff(ZP,BP)
And yet there are a lot of zp buyers who hack. Creating a "premium" server would not stop the hacks.
Now giving kick allowance to the premiums. That's a completely stupid idea because buying zp doesn't mean you know how to play. In my old clan we had someone who buyed a lot of ZP but in clan war he was the first to die always. It would also make the game a lot unfair like in other games i play.
Anyone could bypass the word premium.
Anyone can give 1$ and since he buyed this much ZP he can become premium.
Plus
Not only the ones that buy ZP give money to Z8Games
Z8Games takes money from surveys and advertisments.
Premium servers would only have the "nice free hak games" and the free players who either don't afford to or don't want to buy ZP or don't have the time to finish a survey would have to play in hacker full rooms
This will make a lot of players to quit.
And with plain economics:
less players=less people that might buy ZP
less people that might buy ZP=less funds for Z8Games
less funds for Z8Games=chance to go bankrupt
chance to go bankrupt=the game is no more
EDIT: I read wrong. 20-30$ would make the game P2P like WoW. -
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z8 needs
This is one of the best ideas Yet!!!!!!
But Z8 i dont know if they are trying to stop hackers but mabey they are but every day I go into a Gm and of corse i die soon as the round starts. I mean come on, Get a better Anti Cheat or somthing. I love this idea i know alot of ppl will do this considering theres so many hackers its kinda getting unreal at this point. I mean there doubling every single day, I have quit this game twice now might be a 3rd if this hacker stuff doesnt change.. -
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That's right but this game doesn't represent real worldUKDissident wrote: »Ideally yes, same thing goes with humans.
But in the real world you get what you pay for, that's why some people live in cardboard boxes, houses and mansions.
But because it is FREE TO PLAY you actually can't get what you pay for.
Turning the game into PAY TO PLAY most of the players will quit. Not everyone wants to pay 30$ every 5 months to play a game, when you can give these money to buy something for yourself or pay to buy a game and use it for ever -
Hypernamer2 wrote: »That's right but this game doesn't represent real world
Well actually all the players are real and you do get what you are prepared to pay for.Hypernamer2 wrote: »Turning the game into PAY TO PLAY most of the players will quit.
Why would they quit? You either buy it or you don't, it will be one server out of what idk 20?
Shouldn't all the premiums be quitting at paying what could be considered a large fee and being marginalised to one server? whilst free players get nearly everything anyway?
How would the game be "pay to play" exactly? It's one server that is preminum and you can still play for free in 99% of other servers.
Is CF "pay to play" because you have to buy zp if you want a zp gun or angle wings?Hypernamer2 wrote: »Not everyone wants to pay 30$ every 5 months to play a game, when you can give these money to buy something for yourself or pay to buy a game and use it for ever
Then you can do that, in the real world you can buy whatever you want which you deem worthwhile.
You can even play this for free. -
this is a very good Idea..
but if they ever do premium server, i hope player can't pay with ZPs. better way for a diferent payment, cuz hacckers can still go with surveys, n try to ruin everyone .
for example $20 registration for a premium account, who ever hack on the account gets a perm ban. -
The way I look at it, Z8 is a company like any other. They survive on revenue.
No $ No Servers. No $ No Development. No $ No Game.
Some people might want to thank the "wallet warriors" for helping Z8 keep this game online. This would NOT make the game Pay2Play. Rather open up a possible way to allow players who do pay for what they get to play worry free.Hypernamer2 wrote: »That's right but this game doesn't represent real world
But because it is FREE TO PLAY you actually can't get what you pay for.
Turning the game into PAY TO PLAY most of the players will quit. Not everyone wants to pay 30$ every 5 months to play a game, when you can give these money to buy something for yourself or pay to buy a game and use it for ever
I see someone did not fully read the original post in this thread, (or maybe he just missed the point).
I play many online games that have the option to play 4 free, or pay 2 play. They always seemed to have a large community of players regardless. -
Hackers will not want to pay to hack in the premium server so they will stay in free to play servers. As the premium ones will play hack free almost all the others who can't afford a fee will not want to be farmed by hackers. If you play with hackers you are farmed by them. Obviously you don't play.
So as they can't become premium they will quit.
AND so goes economics and marketing
Less players=less popularity
less popularity=less companies want to advertise in Z8Games website
less companies want to advertise in Z8Games website=less funds
less funds=less patches
less patches=even more players quit
even more players quit=less funds from ZP
Less funds from ZP=less items for everyone
less items for everyone=some premiums quit
some premiums quit=less funds from premiums
less funds from premiums =the game is dead
It's all a chain
PLus read post 24 and connect it with my words -
Even with hakers, this game doesn't seem it's good enough to be a pay 2 play...or even pay at all.
I mean, AVA is free, and the only thing that's stopping me from playing is the fact i'm not the great at AVA, and i'm pretty good in CF. However, if i have to pay to not get hack'd upon, then no O_o
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