Taking a break from CF
GMSaidin wrote:After increasing the level requirement for the m12 we have no plans at this moment to change its power levels.EmoMunzta wrote:Okay so I'm tired of all the endless controvercy and the BS that Z8 made out of the M4-C, while keeping M12 unnerfed.
I want an answer from a [GM].
Will the M12 and the Thompson EVER be nerfed? Are you going to do something to balance out the game or you're gonna keep it as is?
Oh and please don't you start phylosophical talks like "balance is, but is not, but ..." e.t.c. Just say Yes or No. ONE word. Put MSG2SHORT in the end.
This is the only thing I want to know. Thankyou.
While we do look at weapon balance, we have no problem with the state that most guns are in (save the lingering bug of the xm8 shooting through walls, or other quirks that should be fixed over time).
In the competitive world, guns like the m12 get limited by the rules. Some guns are just naturally going to be better in certain situations. IE spraying in Egypt with the M12 (as opposed to playing in an SnD league where the gun gets limited). If you have a problem with the balance of this gun in that situation, I would suggest playing in a mode where the gun gets used less.
This is the reason. They nerf non OP guns like XM8 and M4-C. They won't nerf M12. At all. I'm having a break from the game for a couple of weeks, since the management is done without any logic. Will stay on forums and X-Fire.
The game is good, the management is bad.
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As said, Administration doesn't uses logic. This is why I'm taking a break. Stupidity gets me pi'ssed, and I need to calm down before I get an infraction again.WishMunzta wrote: »Xm8 and M4c aren't OP guns, it's tons harder to use then a "M12s" or a "Scrub" -
It's not just the M12... It's the corruption of the Administration. They refuse to nerf obviously disbalanced guns, while nerfing those wich don't need no nerfing. Of course, I understand them, it's all marketing ... But ... It's just too much.WishMunzta wrote: »I understand why you take a break.. -
It's not just the M12... It's the corruption of the Administration. They refuse to nerf obviously disbalanced guns, while nerfing those wich don't need no nerfing. Of course, I understand them, it's all marketing ... But ... It's just too much.
First off, the m4c was never nerfed, and if it was it's a good thing. Because it's still an outstandingly good gun as is.
Second, why do you care so much about overpowered guns? I'm sure there are many who like them because they don't play to be competitive, same with shovel. The most important thing is for the game to be fun, if some want to make it ez to have fun then so be it.
For those who don't like OP guns, don't use them. It's as simple as that.
Third, the staff here is in no way corrupted or stupid. You need to relax and stop flaming something so pointless. -
It isn't fun to play vs non-skilled players with scrub, m12s, kriss and tommy.Max_Skillz wrote: »First off, the m4c was never nerfed, and if it was it's a good thing. Because it's still an outstandingly good gun as is.
Second, why do you care so much about overpowered guns? I'm sure there are many who like them because they don't play to be competitive, same with shovel. The most important thing is for the game to be fun, if some want to make it ez to have fun then so be it.
For those who don't like OP guns, don't use them. It's as simple as that.
Third, the staff here is in no way corrupted or stupid. You need to relax and stop flaming something so pointless. -
WishMunzta wrote: »It isn't fun to play vs non-skilled players with scrub, m12s, kriss and tommy.
In a pub there are no rules, and complaining to staff about how people play is going to get no one anywhere.
And 90% of the time there just that, "un-skilled" which means any competitve player would be able to beat them anyway. Despite there advantage.when i play a m12s tommy kriss or scrub light, i just leave
its annoying as sh1t to play with brs who tank and transport and spray
Laggers are the ones at a disadvantage. So I'll never understand why people complain about them. -
First, the M4-C is in no way as overpowered as M12s or Thompson. You just can't hold the left mouse button and get a 4K without caring about no recoil control or aim with an M4-C. You can do this with M12s and thompson.Max_Skillz wrote: »First off, the m4c was never nerfed, and if it was it's a good thing. Because it's still an outstandingly good gun as is.
Second, why do you care so much about overpowered guns? I'm sure there are many who like them because they don't play to be competitive, same with shovel. The most important thing is for the game to be fun, if some want to make it ez to have fun then so be it.
For those who don't like OP guns, don't use them. It's as simple as that.
Third, the staff here is in no way corrupted or stupid. You need to relax and stop flaming something so pointless.
Second, this is called balance. It's not fun to fight an army of M12s + SL + Tommy + Kriss ztarz with armor, lag and a BR tag in their name.
Third, why does the staff nerf the less or not OP guns first but doesn't nerfs clearly OP guns? Why does the staff keeps ifgnoring support tickets? Why does the staff doesn't solve the BR problem? Why does the staff ... There is a lot of examples. The Administration aren't doing this because of marketing. I do understant that they want their money, but they are going too far. -
First, the M4-C is in no way as overpowered as M12s or Thompson. You just can't hold the left mouse button and get a 4K without caring about no recoil control or aim with an M4-C. You can do this with M12s and thompson.
Second, this is called balance. It's not fun to fight an army of M12s + SL + Tommy + Kriss ztarz with armor, lag and a BR tag in their name.
Third, why does the staff nerf the less or not OP guns first but doesn't nerfs clearly OP guns? Why does the staff keeps ifgnoring support tickets? Why does the staff doesn't solve the BR problem? Why does the staff ... There is a lot of examples. The Administration aren't doing this because of marketing. I do understant that they want their money, but they are going too far.
I didn't say the m4c is as overpowered as the m12.
If you want balance then join turny's, pugs, or scrim so your team can take out the "un-skilled" players with teamwork. Why not view it as a challenge rather then an annoyance?
I'll say it again, they haven't nerfed any guns as far as I can tell cept for the tri shot.
And BR "problem"?? ROFL, it's all in the communities head. There is no "BR problem" everyone needs to just chill out and stop pointing fingers.
The Administration OF COURSE wants money, that's the whole point of a company releasing there product is to make money. But that isn't there only goal, they do work to satisfy there customers, otherwise they don't make money. Stop whining as if they don't do anything, they have much they're working on and pointing out little things that you don't like is pointless. And in no way proves they don't do there job. -
I even see skilled players with those guns.Max_Skillz wrote: »In a pub there are no rules, and complaining to staff about how people play is going to get no one anywhere.
And 90% of the time there just that, "un-skilled" which means any competitve player would be able to beat them anyway. Despite there advantage.
Laggers are the ones at a disadvantage. So I'll never understand why people complain about them. -
WishMunzta wrote: »I even see skilled players with those guns.
This is true, but as I pointed out before, that's there choice to make the game easier. Which unless they use balanced guns they will never really see there true potential. And I never look at it as annoying, I look at it as all the more satisfying when I beat them anyway. -
No problem dukeDUKEofYORK wrote: »long as u stay in conversation wit me by pm or our clan forum- then np:)
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Another dumb thing done by Z8. What the HELL are they thinking with?! Are they thinking at all?! It's been like this ever since crates came out (more than a year now) and they change the ONLY good GP income that non ZP players have?! WHAT THE HELL IS ON with complete idiocy of the administration latly?! It's damn TEMP gun. What use they have now?! Honestly, if anyone still doubts of the lack of intelligence and though in the management of the game, I'll be happy to spit in your face.GMSaidin wrote:Attention CF Players,
Recently we have made a change to the game which deals with the auto repair of temporary weapons when you get a new temporary weapon of the same type.
Previously the system would allow you to use a temporary weapon until it breaks, let the weapon expire, get a new temporary weapon of the same type and use it as though it was fully repaired.
After the changes, a weapon will remain un-repaired and broken even if you get a new one of the same type.
This closes a loophole that was allowing players to use crates to gain more GP over time, by not having to repair their weapons. If you want to be able to use a broken temporary weapon you must repair the weapon as normal before or after getting a new version of that weapon.
We apologize for this inconvenience, but understand that this was an unintended function of the system and was creating a backdoor for people to gain more than an average amount of GP. -
As said, I don't take a break because of the M12, but because of the stupidity and incompetence of the Administration.People *
Don't quit over a nub reason.
If ppl use it what?
I used it too!Don't tell me I'm ur reason for quitting ! -
Max_Skillz wrote: »First off, the m4c was never nerfed, and if it was it's a good thing. Because it's still an outstandingly good gun as is.
Second, why do you care so much about overpowered guns? I'm sure there are many who like them because they don't play to be competitive, same with shovel. The most important thing is for the game to be fun, if some want to make it ez to have fun then so be it.
For those who don't like OP guns, don't use them. It's as simple as that.
Third, the staff here is in no way corrupted or stupid. You need to relax and stop flaming something so pointless.
1st- m4-c was nerferd
2nd- exactly, the game is supposed to be fun, the OP guns with 250 pingers are making it so its not fun. hes not saying nerf them cause he uses them idiot he is saying nerf them cause he (along with half the ppl in CF including me) are pis5ed off about no skill laggers coming in a spraying u accross the map from behind a wall.
3rd- the staff is stupid cause they have done fuc all since they got here except make more game errors and add zp sht for profit. they refuse to ban hackers since they buy zp and they dont do sht all about crash bugs, BR's, or hackers/glitchers
pz anyway -
I am in total accord with u Emo- The genuine players I know who dont have the grace of zp are able to stay in game and partake because of this "loophole" Now u wanna close that on them. Have you a human elemement in your admin or do you just chase the dolla like a commercial *****?
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No problem duke
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Another dumb thing done by Z8. What the HELL are they thinking with?! Are they thinking at all?! It's been like this ever since crates came out (more than a year now) and they change the ONLY good GP income that non ZP players have?! WHAT THE HELL IS ON with complete idiocy of the administration latly?! It's damn TEMP gun. What use they have now?! Honestly, if anyone still doubts of the lack of intelligence and though in the management of the game, I'll be happy to spit in your face.
Please tell me where to find this quote, cause I made a guide using this "bug" that saidin's talking about. I'd really like to look into this.nucksfan123 wrote: »1st- m4-c was nerferd
2nd- exactly, the game is supposed to be fun, the OP guns with 250 pingers are making it so its not fun. hes not saying nerf them cause he uses them idiot he is saying nerf them cause he (along with half the ppl in CF including me) are pis5ed off about no skill laggers coming in a spraying u accross the map from behind a wall.
3rd- the staff is stupid cause they have done fuc all since they got here except make more game errors and add zp sht for profit. they refuse to ban hackers since they buy zp and they dont do sht all about crash bugs, BR's, or hackers/glitchers
pz anyway
1st I already said couldn't care less even if it was, it's a very good gun.
2nd, Don't call me an idiot, it's against forum rules and what you think of me means nothing to me anyway. What I said still applies, the only problem with those guns is that YOU think there so terrible. Whether you view it as a challenge to overcome, or an annoyance to complain about, its your problem.
The laggers themselves have it ten times harder killing everything as you do at killing just them. I've never had trouble killing a lagger, but if I keep moving it's next to impossible for them to kill me. So this argument still makes no sense to me to complain that people lag, I always shut the game off if I lag. Kudos to those who can even play the game with the no reg issues of lag.
3rd. They DO fix game errors, they DO ban hacks, BR's are only a problem in your mind. They've never bothered me or any my friends.
The only problem here is the ignorance of the community at the amount of work required to get everything perfect. -
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Saidin himself can not change stats of a weapon. He is not a DEV. The DEVs have final say in what happens, and trust me, Saidin really does try to get things changed, but the final word is the DEVs, and that is the word he must give all of us.
Excellent point.
Sorry I didn't think to mention it, seeings how I don't get why they're making such a big deal out of it in the first place. -
Also, (and this is the WORD by Saidin) the gun from their knowledge has never been nerfed OTHER than changing the amo count to the correct number.
When you take it all in, you aren't taking in the factors of other things, suck as power, being the fact people lag. They might not take some damage, what else? Armour, Distance? Etc.
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Also, (and this is the WORD by Saidin) the gun from their knowledge has never been nerfed in the last year or so.
When you take it all in, you aren't taking in the factors of other things, suck as power, being the fact people lag. They might not take some damage, what else? Armour, Distance? Etc.
I've heard that said before about them not having nerfed the guns, and have tested them myself, which is why I stood by that fact. Thanks for bringing solid evidence to the statement.
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