WOGL & AC may be the end of Crossfire ...
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Uh-huh. One more ZP QQ noob. Whatever.cptainFalcon wrote: »this is my postulate:
fact1:
WOGL and its ACS has proven to be pretty successful so far. At the same time its also instilling trust among the crossfire community as a way to ensure the tournament is going to be hack free and only skill based.
fact2:
Crossfire ranks amongst other fps as one of the lower tiers of FPS games that require a low skill level. For example, i often hear players rave that they dont play CSS or CS1.6 so they cmoe to CF where they can own some noobs cuz its so easy the guns have no recoil etc etc.
fact 3: CF is a free to play game, but it is a heavily Zp based game. IF u have the money to spend on armor, spop, advance, gold, silver, heart grenades, flashguard etc, you will get a SIGNIFICANT advantage in the game. My assumption here is that many of the players that buy the ZP items to gain the advantage are inherently lower skilled players who are just not as fast or smart or good aim as your regular FPS player.
Conclusion & Postulate:
ZP buying noobs and self proclaimed decent legit players as-long-as-nobody-hacks noobs will enter WOGL, they will run the ACS and get completely annihilated by actually skilled clans. They will come to the realization that all those months that they lose to hacking clans is actually because the opponent didnt hack, and they actually sucked. With the elimination of spop and armor , and all the other ZP add-ons, they actually fail and get rolled 0-18 even harder. With this, i predict that many lower level clans like Sa*itar*um will completely fall apart and disappear after the tournament. the game of Crossfire will lose many faithful patrons who spend tons and tons of cash because they had realized they lose so much is because they are just baddies pure and simple. Maybe Z8 should had first considered these factors and its repercussion before giving the WOGL tournament and its ACS a thumbs up. The reason that the Official CF tournaments never have anti cheat may be this reason? (conspiracy much?) lawl.... -
cptainFalcon wrote: »i said im not QQ-ing ... geez read my post, i made 2 main points: 1. i said those noobs will fail hard and it will be funny. 2. CF will lose those noob customers.
Ugh, the intelligence and deductive reasoning of people in this game is so incredibly low. I have to spell everything out. Its like the response of an average CF player is reduced to 2 word phrases.
I made this post to create a discussion, but kids cant go past every two replies on this thread without attacking me.
Looks like i have to resort to quoting myself because people like Violence FTW and MonsterInc dont have the mental capability to read things carefully before jumping to conclusions and condemnation. I guess some noobs just feel that superior when someone else seems like they might be crying about ZP, they are so quick to jump right in and talk down upon others.
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OMG for the last time, READ MY POST CAREFULLY. I am not talking about RANDOM PEOPLE THAT BUY ZP, I AM NOT CALLING THEM NOOBS. READ CAREFULLY, u ignorant noob kids in pubs in noob clans who try hard to get 2.0kdr: I am saying the people that play in WOGL right now (sanitarium) who will not be able to rely on an advantage from ZP items will fail even harder against caln like 2k. in addition, they will not be able to call hack. Stop being defensive, i am not criticizing u for spending money on ZP items, go for it by all means, it just makes it all the more amusing when i kill you guys all the same way in clan wars.
seriously all you crazy Zp buying kids are like bananas when ever someone mentions the words ZP and advantage around them. u are all like ZOMOGMOGOMG Z NOOOO .. I PAID FOR IT!! ITZZ MINNEEEE, U CAN STILL KEEEL MEEE. zomgomgomzmg ... rabid animals really. -
cptainFalcon wrote: »Looks like i have to resort to quoting myself because people like Violence FTW and MonsterInc dont have the mental capability to read things carefully before jumping to conclusions and condemnation. I guess some noobs just feel that superior when someone else seems like they might be crying about ZP, they are so quick to jump right in and talk down upon others.
Edit: looks like another noob joined the fray - EmoXCore
enough of the name calling...its against forum rules to disrespect others. -
ChessMastr wrote: »you know something this post really made me open my eyes thanks you for that this truly is food for thought!
yeah just kinda clarify if that was sarcasm or not? sorry i really cant tell when someone is being like meaningful when they stuff on like forums lol -
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I somewhat disagree and your proof enough (I think). You dont buy zp or not alot and your a skilled player. Guns dont really matter unless there in the hands of someone who can use it right, I've seen so many scrub players with kriss just spraying like noobs and getting hsed by good players. Getting armor only gives you a extra 2-3 protection from bullets and 2 for head. Just shoot a person in the head with a helmet once and pop him in the upper body and hes done.
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DirtyNorth wrote: »CaptainFalcon.. I am indeed the LEADER of CoE, which was (SaNiTaRiUm). Now i think what you're stating is true somewhat actually. Flaming a clan on the forums on random threads like this i guess shows your age but whatever. We have alot of whiners who get owned by the better clans, but so what? They like being competitive in a way and get beat trying to do it? You, Treni, and Slaya were all members of this clan and are the only ones flaming us in these public forums. You obviously don't like us and we get that kid. I for one don't care what you or anyone else thinks here, we play CS:S and crossfire on the side.. You guys are good at Crossfire get over it.
We've played one RESPECTFUL clan that has beat us ONE, and that was Sorry (Klan Khaos). So getting beat by them in the second round wouldn't bother me at all. I thought it would be fun to play in WOGL, where we could try to compete cleanly. So falcon, keep thinking and posting your emotions out loud, i'm actually happy you think about us that much actually? You can add me on facebook, if you think about us so much. Otherwise go roll clans and put them down because they're not as good as you. If you really want to play a competitive game come play some CS:S with us.. You can try your luck against our eco team i guess. www.coesquad.com Until then broseph, just keep being a kid please.
I actually dont put down clans because they are not as good. I talk about them when they the leader and the LTs being responsible and mature and all do these things: 1. smear my name by lying to their existing members that one of their ex member (me) was kicked for being caught hacking. When the truth was i was just sick of carrying the clan being the only one positive every scrim. I guess it saves you the embarrassment when you guys lose to me thereafter over and over again, doesnt it? I also do this when: 2. when im being told by 30 and 20 yr old men (leader and LT of your clan) that my mother is a female dog, i should go jump off a bridge, i am sh1t on the ground etc etc. When i offer you Growler proof and ACS proof that i am not cheating when i beat u guys. yes lawl, im the stupid boy if you say so
From what i have heard, Sanitarium feels like if u guys lose by 10-8 its a good game, but if u guys lose by 15-3, it is impossible to fathom that you guys lost because the other team is just simply better. It is IMPOSSIBLE in your books that the other team was legit. This is told to me by one of your members that it is a common attitude that the LTs have. Additionally, I quote your LTs saying
"we're the best clan in CF, and they can put it in their books"
and making a forum thread and the first sentence is
"I know i am easily one of the top 50 legit cf players out there" etc etc.
With that stuff being said, it just tells me you guys take CF very seriously, and its so entertaining how everyone in the CF community knows about your reputation and yet you guys blindly go on believe you guys are so good.
All this that i mentioned is why i must share my thoughts with everyone.
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I somewhat disagree and your proof enough (I think). You dont buy zp or not alot and your a skilled player. Guns dont really matter unless there in the hands of someone who can use it right, I've seen so many scrub players with kriss just spraying like noobs and getting hsed by good players. Getting armor only gives you a extra 2-3 protection from bullets and 2 for head. Just shoot a person in the head with a helmet once and pop him in the upper body and hes done.
Agreed, it all depends on how u play..
as far as grenades.. "ZP grenades" or ordinary nades barely even hit ppol unless they caught off guard..
the guns that has lil bit more bullets doesnt really make much diff to me.. like Sigish said..
it only matters on whos using the guns.. not how good the gun it self.. -
SuperKiIler wrote: »yo noob, let's see u handling a 3 kd against 2k when we all have armor+spop
let's see if your m4 or dweez's m4 will pop who's head first
stupid noob from random clan
lol and this makes you special how
? your a kid
i never said i can hold it all the time, but the point was that i can without ZP.
obviously depends on the clan im against. never stated im better than anyone.
get rid of your ego. -
cptainFalcon wrote: »Looks like i have to resort to quoting myself because people like Violence FTW and MonsterInc dont have the mental capability to read things carefully before jumping to conclusions and condemnation. I guess some noobs just feel that superior when someone else seems like they might be crying about ZP, they are so quick to jump right in and talk down upon others.
Edit: looks like another noob joined the fray - EmoXCore
rofl, mental capacity? what? do you think i can't comprehend the fact that from a certain point of view you called me a noob. you didn't give a direct basis for who you were calling noobs other than sanitarium however you didn't say that in the 1st 2nd nor 3rd part of what you were getting at which made me think that you didn't just mean sanitarium. alls i said was it was kinda harsh. i only meant the way you said it, you said we jump to conclusions? when your doing the exact same thing right here, i was talking down your opinion what so ever yeah your statement is valid n **** sure. but it came across like you were basing it on a whole group of people not just sanitarium.
think before you talk eh.. just because it seems like someone didnt read your post correctly and is seeing your opinion from a different view point does not mean their is any need for name calling or flaming.
im entitled to my opinion your entitled to yours.
ive also played with a few sanitarium guys.
yeah some of them are ***** but some of them are alright.
as ive said before, just because someone buys ZP and uses ZP items doesnt mean they fail.
as for monsterINC he has a point man, from what ive read and seen of you In game( yes i have seen you play before.)
your a good player but you should stop flaming a clan for having something that doesnt even make much of a difference. if your angery about getting kicked you should just take it up with them , not rage about something which is a matter of choice not a matter of who's noob and who isnt on forums because its kinda just sad tbh.
fair enough your angery with them, but take it out on them in a scrim in which ever clan your with now and gloat. thats alls you should really need. they want to be pathetic, let them.
sorry for the assumption but don't do the same to me. both miss understood where we were coming from, nuff said yeah.
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ViolenceFTW wrote: »rofl, mental capacity? what? do you think i can't comprehend the fact that from a certain point of view you called me a noob. you didn't give a direct basis for who you were calling noobs other than sanitarium however you didn't say that in the 1st 2nd nor 3rd part of what you were getting at which made me think that you didn't just mean sanitarium. alls i said was it was kinda harsh. i only meant the way you said it, you said we jump to conclusions? when your doing the exact same thing right here, i was talking down your opinion what so ever yeah your statement is valid n **** sure. but it came across like you were basing it on a whole group of people not just sanitarium.
think before you talk eh.. just because it seems like someone didnt read your post correctly and is seeing your opinion from a different view point does not mean their is any need for name calling or flaming.
im entitled to my opinion your entitled to yours.
ive also played with a few sanitarium guys.
yeah some of them are ***** but some of them are alright.
as ive said before, just because someone buys ZP and uses ZP items doesnt mean they fail.
as for monsterINC he has a point man, from what ive read and seen of you In game( yes i have seen you play before.)
your a good player but you should stop flaming a clan for having something that doesnt even make much of a difference. if your angery about getting kicked you should just take it up with them , not rage about something which is a matter of choice not a matter of who's noob and who isnt on forums because its kinda just sad tbh.
fair enough your angery with them, but take it out on them in a scrim in which ever clan your with now and gloat. thats alls you should really need. they want to be pathetic, let them.
sorry for the assumption but don't do the same to me. both miss understood where we were coming from, nuff said yeah.
its just a game. enjoy it.
riiiiiight ... so you are admitting that you DID NOT read my post properly in its entirety at which point you proceeded to FLAMED ME for it because you did not interpret it properly. AND THEN NOW u are saying that i am the bad guy here to bash you back after u call me a noob??? lawl ok nuff said -
ViolenceFTW wrote: »rofl, mental capacity? what? do you think i can't comprehend the fact that from a certain point of view you called me a noob. you didn't give a direct basis for who you were calling noobs other than sanitarium however you didn't say that in the 1st 2nd nor 3rd part of what you were getting at which made me think that you didn't just mean sanitarium. alls i said was it was kinda harsh. i only meant the way you said it, you said we jump to conclusions? when your doing the exact same thing right here, i was talking down your opinion what so ever yeah your statement is valid n **** sure. but it came across like you were basing it on a whole group of people not just sanitarium.
think before you talk eh.. just because it seems like someone didnt read your post correctly and is seeing your opinion from a different view point does not mean their is any need for name calling or flaming.
im entitled to my opinion your entitled to yours.
ive also played with a few sanitarium guys.
yeah some of them are ***** but some of them are alright.
as ive said before, just because someone buys ZP and uses ZP items doesnt mean they fail.
as for monsterINC he has a point man, from what ive read and seen of you In game( yes i have seen you play before.)
your a good player but you should stop flaming a clan for having something that doesnt even make much of a difference. if your angery about getting kicked you should just take it up with them , not rage about something which is a matter of choice not a matter of who's noob and who isnt on forums because its kinda just sad tbh.
fair enough your angery with them, but take it out on them in a scrim in which ever clan your with now and gloat. thats alls you should really need. they want to be pathetic, let them.
sorry for the assumption but don't do the same to me. both miss understood where we were coming from, nuff said yeah.
its just a game. enjoy it.
once again, you DID NOT READ my post properly, i didnt get kicked, i LEFT the clan because i carried every game. and since i left that clan 7 months ago, i have never lost a scrim to them, someone in the vacinity of 20+ scrims? and like i said, they lie about me being a hacker and go on and on about how i was "KICKED for caught cheater" and throw at me insults about my livelihood and my family when i will REPEAT that I LEFT their clan. its pointless talking to you, you are so quick to jump to conclusions and too hot headed to carry out regular discourse, maybe you should look up Sanitarium. I think you will fit right in there. -
cptainFalcon wrote: »riiiiiight ... so you are admitting that you DID NOT read my post properly and entirely and then u FLAMED ME for it because you did not intepret it properly. AND THEN NOW u are saying that i am wrong to bash you back after u call me a noob? ok nuff said
lol i never called you a noob. and i did read it but how someone interperts something is different. you cant force someone to see something from your side when you put something across which seems different in other peoples eye to what your actually trying to say.
im also saying their aint any need for name calling when i didnt call you a noob at all.
i didnt flame you at all, i just said it was kinda harsh... thats not flaming .. thats just saying what i think, flaming is calling you a noob and saying your an idoit and stuff. i didnt say that at all. -
cptainFalcon wrote: »once again, you DID NOT READ my post properly, i didnt get kicked, i LEFT the clan because i carried every game. and since i left that clan 7 months ago, i have never lost a scrim to them, someone in the vacinity of 20+ scrims? and like i said, they lie about me being a hacker and go on and on about how i was "KICKED for caught cheater" and throw at me insults about my livelihood and my family when i will REPEAT that I LEFT their clan. its pointless talking to you, you are so quick to jump to conclusions and too hot headed to carry out regular discourse, maybe you should look up Sanitarium. I think you will fit right in there.
ok right now your just being hot headed yourself, its not pointless im actually trying to have a dicussion with you but you seem to be too angery yourself to actually talk without going absolutely mental at me for having an opinion.
yeah alright so i miss read one lil bit, your kicked or you left so what i read your actual post correctly just saw it from a different perspective, its not a crime. liif theyve done that much crap too you then why keep on about it, why not move on and forget about them, yeah people are jerks but that's life.
i think you need to calm down.
also according to what your saying i did not read your post properly because i have my own opinions... right ok ....
just for the record you insulted me i didnt insult you. look at one of your replys and you will see.
"your fact 3 only applies to some not all, i can hold a 3.0 in pubs and scrims without armor or spop or any ZP items ... just learn to use the m4 standard handle its recoil and have good ears and good aim. kinda harsh basing such a large group of people on the fact they buy ZP because they fail.... we dont buy ZP to play awesome we buy it to to have fun. i dont need ZP to play this game, but if some people do then they really do need to uninstall the game."
where in their did i call you any names or flame you at all?. i was just stating that not all of us were noobs. reguardless wether i saw it from your point of view or not, i would of said the same. -
ViolenceFTW wrote: »lol i never called you a noob. and i did read it but how someone interperts something is different. you cant force someone to see something from your side when you put something across which seems different in other peoples eye to what your actually trying to say.
im also saying their aint any need for name calling when i didnt call you a noob at all.
i didnt flame you at all, i just said it was kinda harsh... thats not flaming .. thats just saying what i think, flaming is calling you a noob and saying your an idoit and stuff. i didnt say that at all.
ok sorry u didnt call me a noob, jsut that everyone else in the forum who disagreed with me had jumped on me like a rabid animal calling me a Q_Qer noob. But i do not see how u can interpret what i said differnt, i stated what i said in plain simple point forms like 4 different times.
and no i cannot gloat to sanitarium when i beat them, b.c they all swear at me and give me a the middle finger etc etc. Nice guys really. -
Actaulyl i reread that first post you made. I remember what ticked me off now. It was because i was talking about how those noobs will get owned in WOGL without their hacusation and items. And then you go completely off topic and start telling me tips on how to kill them by using the m4 like im new to crossfire.
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cptainFalcon wrote: »Actaulyl i reread that first post you made. I remember what ticked me off now. It was because i was talking about how those noobs will get owned in WOGL without their hacusation and items. And then you go completely off topic and start telling me tips on how to kill them by using the m4 like im new to crossfire.
sorry for the miss conception, i meant thats how i do it, i wasnt giving you tips i was just saying how i do it without ZP items, sorry if you saw it that way.
as for the other thing i interpreted it differently was because of this
"My assumption here is that many of the players that buy the ZP items to gain the advantage are inherently lower skilled players who are just not as fast or smart or good aim as your regular FPS player."
it came across as an insult rather than a fact.
because you know i buy ZP to have fun and so do alot of my friends. alot of us use no spop no armor, and GP weapons.
it just came across like an insult slightly. i know where your comming from now. its from where im sitting and i buy ZP etc it felt like an insult.
and yeah i didnt jump on you man, i was just saying that like because of the way i saw it i just thought id point out that not everyone who buys ZP has low skill level. -
ViolenceFTW wrote: »sorry for the miss conception, i meant thats how i do it, i wasnt giving you tips i was just saying how i do it without ZP items, sorry if you saw it that way.
as for the other thing i interpreted it differently was because of this
"My assumption here is that many of the players that buy the ZP items to gain the advantage are inherently lower skilled players who are just not as fast or smart or good aim as your regular FPS player."
it came across as an insult rather than a fact.
because you know i buy ZP to have fun and so do alot of my friends. alot of us use no spop no armor, and GP weapons.
it just came across like an insult slightly. i know where your comming from now. its from where im sitting and i buy ZP etc it felt like an insult.
and yeah i didnt jump on you man, i was just saying that like because of the way i saw it i just thought id point out that not everyone who buys ZP has low skill level.
k never mind all that. So yes i think its going to be funny when people fail and dont have hacusations to rely on.
oh wow my forum rank leveled up to a squire. heheheh im a squire now, eeeeeexelent -
Lol, falcon.. You younger guys should be better than us older guys shouldn't you? I'm sorry man i really cannot take being insulted by a what ? year old seriously. Your team is better than my team at crossfire. MY team would DESTROY you at Counter Strike: Source where as you DESTROY us at crossfire. You need to get over that and recent clans you've been in. The only one that matters now is the one you currently reside in. Am i right?
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cptainFalcon wrote: »k never mind all that. So yes i think its going to be funny when people fail and dont have hacusations to rely on.
oh wow my forum rank leveled up to a squire. heheheh im a squire now, eeeeeexelent
yeah man, i think people cry far to much i saw a post earlier on a guy who apprently cried and hackusated about a coupon hack 0.o lol
i mean just wow lol
and yay for you! lol i wonder if i get anything at 200 posts im now like 6 off lol -
cptainFalcon wrote: »it doesnt mean you arnt disrespecting me any more if u say "sdfu" and then add a smiley face behind it. Stop the trolling, troll
once again...disrespecting in the forums is NOT aloud...
as for being a troll...i am not one. so please stop making a fool of yourself. -
DirtyNorth wrote: »Lol, falcon.. You younger guys should be better than us older guys shouldn't you? I'm sorry man i really cannot take being insulted by a what ? year old seriously. Your team is better than my team at crossfire. MY team would DESTROY you at Counter Strike: Source where as you DESTROY us at crossfire. You need to get over that and recent clans you've been in. The only one that matters now is the one you currently reside in. Am i right?
Actually i dont know if you clan would DESTROY my clan at counter strike. I played cs1.5, yes 1.5 not even 1.6, i used to play FPS alot and now im back. To be honest, i am 22 years old, i dont think it matters how old someone is when argueing. An intelligent and witty insult is an insult non the less, its bigotry to look down upon someone just b.c they are young. You should actually feel humiliated and humble if someone younger than you can use proof and reasoning to destroy your arguments. And actually i always get over Sanitarium and you LTs and your leaders, but every time we scrim and lose to my clan and i, it doesnt matter what clan i am in. I get harassed by your ill manners and immaturity, it does not help me get over you guys if you are constantly throwing your QQing tears and hacusations, family insults at me, and smearing my name. and then go around saying you guys are 1 of the best clan in the game. It just doesnt fly. -
once again...disrespecting in the forums is NOT aloud...
as for being a troll...i am not one. so please stop making a fool of yourself.
good job on ignoring my point, i will tell you again what you did: you telling someone not to disrespect others and then telling them to shut the f up, and then adding a smiley. That is troll like behavior, now stop making a fool out of yourself.
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