OP: SPOP's Psycological Advantage
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I bought SPOP cause I am girl, and when I had the male character no one believed me I am girl. Now being female is more believeble that I am girl for real.
I consider that the Spop char doesn't give me any advantage.
I think the only advantage for having Spop is psychological intimidation of the opponent when he sees spop.
Well I have to admit that for me is more difficult to kill a spop then a male char, and this is caused by the psychological intimidation I spoked about,cause it makes me lose my ability of aiming good. And the fact that many of the spop users are good and experienced players (that move in many directions while shooting), makes me kill them hardly.
In game I met bad spop players too, and it was very easy to kill them.
Plus,most of the spop users have a high level, cause at the begining all ppl think that spending money on a game is stupid. After they rank up, they get more experience and they get addicted, thing that makes them buy spop.
My conclusion is that if you're a really good player you don't have to be affraid when u see spops.:) -
Oh wow... you make it sound like that...what .00001 second delay when you turn to aim at someone is SOOO big and gives players such HUGE advantages...Opinionated wrote: »Reasoning: SPOP is a smaller target to aim for. Any skilled player will tell you that (s)he will fire when the crosshair is on the target, not when it is in the general vicinity of the target. Because of this, is much harder for any player who doesn't shoot randomly to hit the SPOP.
A skilled player will react fast enough when they see an spop and adjust their aim accordingly.
When I started playing, sure I had trouble when I was killing spops but it wasn't because they were smaller, it was because atleast 90% of the time that spop was a skilled player. Besides I think you would be complaining about ZP Weps if they didn't have SPOPs. You seem the type of player that likes to come up with excuses when they die.
You get used to it and adapt. -
RayssaRelly wrote: »I bought SPOP cause I am girl, and when I had the male character no one believed me I am girl. Now being female is more believeble that I am girl for real.
I consider that the Spop char doesn't give me any advantage.
I think the only advantage for having Spop is psychological intimidation of the opponent when he sees spop.
Well I have to admit that for me is more difficult to kill a spop then a male char, and this is caused by the psychological intimidation I spoked about,cause it makes me lose my ability of aiming good. And the fact that many of the spop users are good and experienced players (that move in many directions while shooting), makes me kill them hardly.
In game I met bad spop players too, and it was very easy to kill them.
Plus,most of the spop users have a high level, cause at the begining all ppl think that spending money on a game is stupid. After they rank up, they get more experience and they get addicted, thing that makes them buy spop.
My conclusion is that if you're a really good player you don't have to be affraid when u see spops.:)
I forgot to say: I bought Spop char, but I don't have ZP weapons
. I like the ZP weapons, but I don't like the fact that they have this limited period. And for the permanent weapons I have to spend many ZP's on Black Market to win them.
SO I rather spend my money on GP, to buy permanent weapons. -
My original reason for buying the modified character was simple. I was pubbing and saw one, in the public game I was playing I noticed that players on the other team I knew were chamming had little problem killing me. But they never prefired or preaimed the SPOP. After that I decided that I might as well try it out, and enjoyed maybe a week of being unchammable.
After that, I just found it comical the amount of people that QQ'd about it. Even in PUG's when the opportunity existed I would use it (there is nothing like having a 200 pinger QQing about how SPOP's are hard to hit, lets not even talk about hitting someone who teleports).
More or less, I use it as it gives me an advantage. While it is not major, and it does not effect my own personal game play it does effect the game play of other individuals. Also, I find I get kicked less when using my SPOP. Although it is true there is a slightly peaking advantage when using the SPOP as well as it does make somethings easier or possible depending upon the players you are up against.
PS: I totally bought the SPOP because its arms are the most similar to my own. -
hitboxes of all characters are the same, SPOS might look thinner, but if you shoot next to her ass, which is smaller that guy´s ass, she still will get hit
tried it
How do you know how big the guys ass is?
just sayin..
I see the spop as moving quicker and jumping higher and further,, could just be my imagination though, usually when i see the enemy my brain is already reacting for the shot and really not paying close attention to the details.. just seems quicker though. -
Opinionated wrote: »Statement: Using the SPOP character give the player an advantage over a player not using an SPOP.
Reasoning: SPOP is a smaller target to aim for. Any skilled player will tell you that (s)he will fire when the crosshair is on the target, not when it is in the general vicinity of the target. Because of this, is much harder for any player who doesn't shoot randomly to hit the SPOP.
Disagree with this? Fine. Here's something you CAN'T disagree with.
SPOP users, your argument is that it doesn't gave any advantage whatsoever. If that is the case, then why use it? You're most likely a boy. Do you enjoy cross dressing?
So which is it? Does it give an advantage or are you just a cross dresser?
Personnaly I use spop because it is cool, I love the voices, and it is the only thing that you pay for it and get it forever (gsg9 bought it aswell but it is ugly, doesnt have a 100%ghost only a first person gsg9 ghost) -
Opinionated wrote: »Statement: Using the SPOP character give the player an advantage over a player not using an SPOP.
Reasoning: SPOP is a smaller target to aim for. Any skilled player will tell you that (s)he will fire when the crosshair is on the target, not when it is in the general vicinity of the target. Because of this, is much harder for any player who doesn't shoot randomly to hit the SPOP.
Disagree with this? Fine. Here's something you CAN'T disagree with.
SPOP users, your argument is that it doesn't gave any advantage whatsoever. If that is the case, then why use it? You're most likely a boy. Do you enjoy cross dressing?
So which is it? Does it give an advantage or are you just a cross dresser?
here is a point you cant argue either, i guess if u had ZP and bought one yourself you wouldnt be wasting space with this waste of space post, so i guess that you have SPOP envy -
Rebornchaos wrote: »Ever thought that people want to play as a female character, because they dont want to stare at a man for hours on end? personally, i dont care what character people play as, long as they have a head to shoot at :P
You only see the arms, although those arms.... very hot... -
Excuse me mister, but you are a ****-Off. I use SPOP because her voice is nicer, she looks prettier. Now if you're so bad that you can't hit a SPOP, dude, it's YOUR problem. There have been a MILLION of threads about this and I'm SICK of kids trying to make an uprising. There is SPOP. You don't like people using it? FINE. Just know, we don't give a **** about what you like or don't. The game won't change for you. Quit crying, or move one to play sims, make your choise.Opinionated wrote: »Statement: Using the SPOP character give the player an advantage over a player not using an SPOP.
Reasoning: SPOP is a smaller target to aim for. Any skilled player will tell you that (s)he will fire when the crosshair is on the target, not when it is in the general vicinity of the target. Because of this, is much harder for any player who doesn't shoot randomly to hit the SPOP.
Disagree with this? Fine. Here's something you CAN'T disagree with.
SPOP users, your argument is that it doesn't gave any advantage whatsoever. If that is the case, then why use it? You're most likely a boy. Do you enjoy cross dressing?
So which is it? Does it give an advantage or are you just a cross dresser? -
lugiegreen wrote: »I disagree with that. Those who do buy them didn't know yet the hitbox is the same because they just look smaller. Or they just want to show support towards z8games to buy the spop. And the whole purpose of buying zp is to support the game.
Then just don't use it.
Like me.LOLSorandom wrote: »Oh wow... you make it sound like that...what .00001 second delay when you turn to aim at someone is SOOO big and gives players such HUGE advantages...
A skilled player will react fast enough when they see an spop and adjust their aim accordingly.
When I started playing, sure I had trouble when I was killing spops but it wasn't because they were smaller, it was because atleast 90% of the time that spop was a skilled player. Besides I think you would be complaining about ZP Weps if they didn't have SPOPs. You seem the type of player that likes to come up with excuses when they die.
You get used to it and adapt.
I wasn't specific enough on the OP.
SPOP give no advantage what so ever when a rifler is trying to kill one.
The advantage is given when a sniper is facing one. Atleast, a sniper who flick shots, not a baddie who trails he character with the crosshair for 5 minutes before shooting.Crayola2256 wrote: »Seriousley stop QQing about the fking spop who in the hell cares(No One) and it has no advantage expt if the nub cant aim...
Everyone who supported the WOGL rulings (AKA almost every decent competitive player.) cares.here is a point you cant argue either, i guess if u had ZP and bought one yourself you wouldnt be wasting space with this waste of space post, so i guess that you have SPOP envy
Read the mother ****ing thread before you mother ****ing post.
I HAVE a SPOP. I bought the character when it came with a huge GP package, just because I wanted the GP. I don't use it because it's completely unfair and because I'm not a girl.Rebornchaos wrote: »Ever thought that people want to play as a female character, because they dont want to stare at a man for hours on end? personally, i dont care what character people play as, long as they have a head to shoot at :P
You play in first person veiw, dumbdumb.Excuse me mister, but you are a ****-Off. I use SPOP because her voice is nicer, she looks prettier. Now if you're so bad that you can't hit a SPOP, dude, it's YOUR problem. There have been a MILLION of threads about this and I'm SICK of kids trying to make an uprising. There is SPOP. You don't like people using it? FINE. Just know, we don't give a **** about what you like or don't. The game won't change for you. Quit crying, or move one to play sims, make your choise.
Voice: Change the sound files if you really want it.
Looks: YOU'RE IN FIRST PERSON VIEW!
Trying to make an uprising? Game change for me? xD
By all means, use the SPOP in pubs. I don't give a ****. This is about competitive play. If you want to be considered "good" then don't use SPOP.
Simple as that.
(Considered good by top clans that is. If you're content with being looked up to by baddies alone, go ahead.)
Oh, and I guess TECHNICALLY the "uprising" you speak of kinda worked? COnsidering WOGL and ESL (If I'm not mistaken) won't allow SPOPs.
If all you do is pub, get the **** out of the thread. -
1.// I still prefer to look nicer to others and to look at other SPOP. Period.
2.// If you're so bad at sniping you can't hit a SPOP, you suck. I'll blow your brainbox out with the AWM before you even know it. Wichever char you use. Tho I doubt a headshot will be fatal to you. Headshots kills by brain damage, wich is obviously impossible in your case.
3.// We still don't care mora about what you think kid. I don't care if you consider me good, I'm better than you so not to be crying on a player skin.
4.// WOGL are banning everything and anything zp kid. Unless you're blind, SPOP IS ZP. Change your lenses.
5.// Most people here are telling you the same thing: WE. DON'T. GIVE. A. ****. ABOUT. YOUR. OPINION. You can go die, life won't change for us. Quit posting useless topics, it's taking place and time for other people to post something usefull will you?
6.// Someone here said you're a moron. Wrong. A moron is someone between 20 and 40 QI. Not with 0 QI. -
I know it has been said a couple of times before, but there has actually been an official statement by either [GM]FallenAngel or [GM]Saidin that this rumor is false and that the SPOP has the exact same hitboxes as a regular character.
And the crossdresser thing; I'm female so I wanted to have a female character. At the same time, you can't deny (or: I guess you can, but blah) that the SPOP looks better than all the others so I can see why all the guys want to have her. And besides all that: why would you care that a male bought a female character? Exactly, no idea.
Btw, I haven't had a problem with hitting SPOPs either. Maybe you forgot to repair your weapon and your aim is off in general. Lol. -
1.// I still prefer to look nicer to others and to look at other SPOP. Period.
Then do so in a pub.
2.// If you're so bad at sniping you can't hit a SPOP, you suck. I'll blow your brainbox out with the AWM before you even know it. Wichever char you use. Tho I doubt a headshot will be fatal to you. Headshots kills by brain damage, wich is obviously impossible in your case.
Nice attemped insult. Where exactly did I say I couldn't hit a SPOP?
3.// We still don't care mora about what you think kid. I don't care if you consider me good, I'm better than you so not to be crying on a player skin.
You're in 2 clans.
'Nuff said.
4.// WOGL are banning everything and anything zp kid. Unless you're blind, SPOP IS ZP. Change your lenses.
Um, I'm the one who said that. L2Read.
5.// Most people here are telling you the same thing: WE. DON'T. GIVE. A. ****. ABOUT. YOUR. OPINION. You can go die, life won't change for us. Quit posting useless topics, it's taking place and time for other people to post something usefull will you?
xD
Most older, competitive players care about my opinion.
Considering I've been around for over a year.
6.// Someone here said you're a moron. Wrong. A moron is someone between 20 and 40 QI. Not with 0 QI.
QI? I assume you mean I.Q.
I've had a Gov. test. took over 5 hours total. My I.Q. is 133, my logical and analytical I.Q. is 156.
Done . -
I know it has been said a couple of times before, but there has actually been an official statement by either [GM]FallenAngel or [GM]Saidin that this rumor is false and that the SPOP has the exact same hitboxes as a regular character.
Read the ****ing thread, even the TITLE, before you post.
GOD. -
1.// I do so everywhere, a Kid won't tell me what to do.Opinionated wrote: »Done .
2.// if you can than stop QQ'ing about it and go aim. Try using your mouse, than come back.
3.// One clan is DEAD for AGES. Learn your facts before talking. And grab a dictiannary. Search for the word LEGACY punk.
4.// Than no wonder why spop is banned. Your little riot is still worthless.
5.// Over a year too. This is not my oldes account. And no, I don't care about what you think. You're useless. Get over it.
6.// Well get your brain to work, because now you look dumb. You know, sometimes it's better to shut your hole and look dumb, than open it and proove the fact you ARE dumb. Bite on it Kid. -
1.// I do so everywhere, a Kid won't tell me what to do.
2.// if you can than stop QQ'ing about it and go aim. Try using your mouse, than come back.
3.// One clan is DEAD for AGES. Learn your facts before talking. And grab a dictiannary. Search for the word LEGACY punk.
4.// Than no wonder why spop is banned. Your little riot is still worthless.
5.// Over a year too. This is not my oldes account. And no, I don't care about what you think. You're useless. Get over it.
6.// Well get your brain to work, because now you look dumb. You know, sometimes it's better to shut your hole and look dumb, than open it and proove the fact you ARE dumb. Bite on it Kid.
How exactly to I look dumb? You're the guy that thinks calling someone a "Kid" is an insult.
Age doesn't represent intelligence.
If all you're going to do is try to insult me, without posting any arguments that even show you're even slightly intelligent, it's a waste of my time to talk to you.
Bai nao. -
I"m not even trying to insult you, it's not like I would waste my time raging on the regular early age kid. And in case you didn't knew, kid is NOT an insult and is representing an age in wich your wisedom is equal to zero. Well in your case it's true.
You look dumb because:
- You are raging about something that people ALLREADY talked about YEARS ago.
- You are telling people not to use SPOP, wich is wrong as you're nothing and nobody to tell anyone what to do.
- You keep assuming you're right, even when you typically lost the game.
Well, intelligence is probably not for you. On this sad note, I'm leaving our youg revulutioneer to his confused mind because I've got to get a smoke. Later Kid, and try to find a better argument next time. -
Opinionated wrote: »I have a SPOP but don't use it. The only reason I have it is because I got it in a package.
I don't use it because A) I find that I become slightly more invincible when playing, and
I don't crossdress.
umm.. i got it cuz shes hott
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