Crate's are NOT random like they say

eagleeeee wrote: »

If it was random they would pop up MORE I see more NameTAgs then guns and deadeye I am saying that they made it HARDER to get it seems like EVERY day at 00:04 or 00:03 some 1 wins a gun (time)

you should be glad we a have a coupon system for people like you who never win anything... you can stilll get the cool stuff.

Why can't someone ask the Koreans what logarithm did they use to determine the chances of the prize...

That would just screw all the BlackMarket if there's a good mathematician in the community.

I've always wondered if it really is random...
Like does it make a difference if you spin it all the way, half-way, quarter,
but also how long you hold the spin button before releasing? a second, 5 seconds, 10 seconds
etc....

Its a mystery.

eagleeeee wrote: »

Proof, If the crate's were random Why dont the Awm, Kriss, ect come in more? I get TONS of sprays but if the crate's WERE random then I would get the gun's that I want

Not to be annoying or anything but it clearly states in the BLACK MARKET help, that there is a higher probability of winning the less soughtafter items (sprays, items, nametags, coupons), and a much lower probability of winning the best ones (AWMadv,ANACONDAadv,M4A1custom......)
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Unfortunately a lot of the people on the forums already have most if not all of the current crate guns.

In order to determine the actually mathematic probabilities for each crate item you would have to have the whole community video their opening crates to obtain where the spin was stopped, what time the spin was done at, what time the gun was won at, etc. There are a whole number of possible variables to determine what you win that would have to be slowly worked out based on prizes won each crate etc.

Of course I personally believe the second you click spin your winnings are predetermined by the server and you just have to follow through the motions to finish receiving what you already got.

Given enough data from people regarding time, crates opened, crates bought, when you clicked spin, when you received the actual prize, etc. I'm sure you could determine an approximate probability.

Of course there would need to be a database for each crate individually...seeing as there is no guarantee that they have the algorithm for determining prizes.

But it's just easier for everyone to whine and complain and QQ until they get the prize than to compile the necessary database for a project such as this.

d34thITSELF wrote: »

Remember that we are talking about a computer program.
A computer can not produce a truly random number. The only thing a computer can do is produce an *approximately* random number.
One common technique is to first add up all the numbers of the current system time,
for instance:
2009/19/12 09:35 --> 2+9+1+9+1+2+9+3+5 = 41 * sqrt(2) = ~57
or
2009/20/11 08:59 --> 2+9+2+1+1+8+5+9 = 37 * sqrt(2) = ~52

This is a pseudo-random number, but we can now say:
IF [our number] EQUALS [53] THEN [you win a kriss super v]
ELSE [you get a spray item]

of course, crossfires implementation might be completely different. but this should help you understand why you arent winning.
Just buy more crates, and at some point you might get your kriss. Or maybe you will never get one. This is called random.

thanks man, that helped..

The crate "machine" should look like this :



^^ It would be casino-like. Cause u know... this thing is REAL gambling.

wow i really want anaconda really i only got thompson and aug camo:(
i have done 30 crates and still havent got it>:(

It's not really random, but there are set chances, and the permanent guns have real little chances...

d34thITSELF wrote: »

Remember that we are talking about a computer program.
A computer can not produce a truly random number. The only thing a computer can do is produce an *approximately* random number.
One common technique is to first add up all the numbers of the current system time,
for instance:
2009/19/12 09:35 --> 2+9+1+9+1+2+9+3+5 = 41 * sqrt(2) = ~57
or
2009/20/11 08:59 --> 2+9+2+1+1+8+5+9 = 37 * sqrt(2) = ~52

This is a pseudo-random number, but we can now say:
IF [our number] EQUALS [53] THEN [you win a kriss super v]
ELSE [you get a spray item]

of course, crossfires implementation might be completely different. but this should help you understand why you arent winning.
Just buy more crates, and at some point you might get your kriss. Or maybe you will never get one. This is called random.

geek :P XD jk you really good in math i c

i get pi.ss.ed off from getting all the sucky stuff but ya it worth a try getting the cool stuff

this maybe coincidence, but when I'm playing with a crate gun I notice it gets won alot. Like I was playing with my Tommy and right after I killed a few people with it 2 people at the same time won it! Same with m4-c, ak camo, ak scope, rpk gold... so I think if the gun is being used in a game maybe it has a better chance of sending the packets to win it if someone is spinning crates at the same time.

if you have any friends with the gun you are trying to win, tell them to go play in a game and kill people with it then you go try spinning the crates for it. I'm serious, it might be coincidence, but I seem to notice it happens way too often.

Sigish wrote: »

M4 c 1 crate

2 Winchesters 20 crates

Diff acc Camo Deag 2 crates

Diff acc Anaconda 40 Crates

diff acc Kriss 2 crates

eat that.

Did u insta' spin or..?

Anyways congrats. I tried my luck with 70 de-c crates, nothing. One crate of each gp crate, nothing.

Wow...so many ppl can afford to spend on ZP to gamble on crates to get their desired guns. i bet a kriss or M4C might have cost some unfortunate folks 20 over USD... sigh.