WOGL Rifles

doop51 · January 2010

well with the scarlight banned who is gonna switch to different guns?

xm8 ak or m4

what about qbz, does it do full damage through boxes like the xm8?

MyAWM · January 2010

doop51 wrote: »

well with the scarlight banned who is gonna switch to different guns?

xm8 ak or m4

what about qbz, does it do full damage through boxes like the xm8?

i believe only the xm8 has this potential. i would say ak does good as well but that is because of its' high damage overall

c0ntroLL · January 2010

The XM8 is the closest rifle to a scar light, and is a well balanced all around gun.

iShockeR · January 2010

I think the QBZ is pretty sick mainly imo it has less recoil if you dont SPRAY and AIM!! The XM8 also is sick but imo has more recoil.

kwevli · January 2010

scar lights banned?
were did it say

[dot] · January 2010

kwevli wrote: »

scar lights banned?
were did it say

its not on the allowed guns list.

Type89 apparently has high boxing percentage.

kwevli · January 2010

can some1 post the link for it?
i cant seem to find it

[dot] · January 2010

kwevli wrote: »

can some1 post the link for it?
i cant seem to find it

http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=29002

Trixity · January 2010

oh dear what are all the euros gonna do.

c0ntroLL · January 2010

FaLLOuTT wrote: »

oh dear what are all the euros gonna do.

this ^^^^^^^^^^^

[dot] · January 2010

Most decent euros use high damage weapons to counter tanking lowpingers.

Bruce1nR · January 2010

Most euros are playing in ESL and not WOGL.

Since WOGL doesn't have an EU CF league, they're kinda SOL.

I recommend the xm8. Full damage through boxes and a simple recoil pattern.

Bloodyfire. · January 2010

Well... you wouldn't have to worry about it if you didn't use the OP'd Scar Light in the first place.

zottel1711 · January 2010

[MOD]Bruce wrote: »

Most euros are playing in ESL and not WOGL.

Since WOGL doesn't have an EU CF league, they're kinda SOL.

I recommend the xm8. Full damage through boxes and a simple recoil pattern.

so WOGL is NA only ?

c0ntroLL · January 2010

HaschMuffin wrote: »

so WOGL is NA only ?

Why would it be anything but that? ESL is a well organized and sophisticated league that provides competitive play for the EU teams.

HOWEVER i do believe Euro teams CAN play, but with the ping difference it will not be fairplay.

zottel1711 · January 2010

The1X wrote: »

Why would it be anything but that? ESL is a well organized and sophisticated league that provides competitive play for the EU teams.

HOWEVER i do believe Euro teams CAN play, but with the ping difference it will not be fairplay.

ok thx just wanted to know that

c0ntroLL · January 2010

HaschMuffin wrote: »

ok thx just wanted to know that

Yea no problem.

_Sp4wn_ · January 2010

No SL

Some people will get mad at this rule.

I was thinking to start using the XM8 again (M4 was my main) or the AK-47.

Bruce1nR · January 2010

Nobody is forcing people into this league.

By all means, if all you want to be is a beta server star then cool beans.

iTeNsE101 · January 2010

finally, a game with out the Scar, the XM8 is the only thing close enough to resemble the elements of the scar

laj0n · January 2010

maybe one day they'll program a Crossfire-OSP and set up a cash system mode for competitive gaming.

Make the max-cash higher than CS and make it so you can just buy gold-m4s, aks, anaconda-A, deagle-C, awm-C, armor, wider-range nerd nades with 'round cash'.

I know its a direct rip-off but it's been done in other games not just 'cs'.

Of coruse you don't "keep" these guns outside the OSP match. I don't think I even need to type this but just in-case.

Also on side-note I'm sure if this system was already available you'd be shocked to see how many top tier games wouldn't even spend the round money on a golden m4/ak.

Theres an advantage, sure but if the max cash was capped at $18k and the gun cost $10k it wouldn't be justified when you could use that cash to buy teammates that aren't top-fragging/getting unlucky weapons for them to keep the cash pool even and lowering the chances of an eco-round or half-buys.

Bruce1nR · January 2010

You're 100% speaking my language.

They have a mode like that in other versions.

Its called "Bounty Mode"

$800 pistol round, then buy guns. Hopefully it comes here one day and then WOGL can do a league for it

EcksRated · January 2010

Im glad the SL is taken out of WOGL. Its WAY too OP. Glad i dumped mine and became a M4 W**re.

loanb · January 2010

I switched to an XM8 ever since that patch that "nerfed" the M4's damage through boxes. Been working fine ever since. Too bad I can't remove the scope though, I'm a little "trigger-scope happy" from playing too much COD4.

Anyway I would recommend the XM8 all around. If your in situations like defending/attacking B site on Port, I might recommend a AK47. It all depends on people and situations.

QBZ doesn't seem like it is worth it, I used it for a short 7 days and didn't like it very much. Maybe we should get some people on pug vent and test out the abilities of guns?

laj0n · January 2010

I'm not a gun scientist but it feels like the QBZ has a very weird distortaion at long range that the other assault rifles do not.

when I grinded down one I got from a crate when I first played this account I actually considered buying one at the start but I found myself choking at long distance shots.

Watched a few fraps cus I thought it was my aim and not the guns fault, nope - it's just a goofy gun at long range.

But I do respect its power at short and mid range but I can't risk playing with a gun thats only good in a few situations.

As for the XM8 i find that it's totally decent but the m4 in my eyes is still better. If we were talking about another game and another map I'd agree with the wall-spray part but in this game wall-spraying isn't a huge part of gameplay, lets be honest here.

And the scope? Get real, I have a custom and I've literally never ever used it and the xm8 scope is viewed worse.

RockLobstah1 · January 2010

Very recently i made the switch to xm8, i actually smashed (sold back to store) my regular m4a1 and a desert eagle (i cant afford a 3rd bag anymore anyways for that 3rd deagle, and i have an m4 custom if i wanna put up with crappy 35 dmg box headshots) to be able to afford it.

One of the first things i look at on a gun is its wallshot percentage. I used to look in my inventory and see 1/3 m4s or 2/3s on my ak silver or SL (which i try and stray from both because of the QQ and a high potential for future nerfing) and i knew i needed something more!

Xm8 is a pretty straight T on the recoil, its a great gun for 2 shot bursting, or just quick one tapping bodies to death, if it gets crazy i can take a knee and spray for results, the thing comes out as fast as an AK and reloads as fast as or faster than SL, and even though the scope is garbage the zoom can help you count crosses in the odd event a sniper isnt doing it.

Of course i only really bring out my seXM8 on maps like widow or port where i can get the advantage of walls shots, something like ceyhan doesnt offer much boxing and id rather use something else.

Actually i dont want more people using the xm8, this gun sucks dont buy it, go buy a scar light while you can before the nerf

EDIT

2 things i forgot to address that i saw in this thread, I'm pretty confident type89 boxes at 100% and QBZ does not.

Bruce1nR · January 2010

laj0n you seem like a rather intelligent and educated person.

On behalf of all the other intelligent and educated people on this forum, welcome.

The scope on the xm8 isn't entirely useless, but it certainly isn't something I use very often.

WoTip · January 2010

Lets see, where to start.

Honestly I have no clue why the XM8 was not "banned". Considering the Scar Light was removed as it was considered to be overpowered.

The XM8 does 100% through boxes and wooden doors.
It has a high rate of fire.
It does as much damage as the Scar L.
It is more accurate then the M4.
It weighs less then all other rifles other then the Scar L.
It reloads at the same speed as the Scar L.

More or less its a Scar L with slightly worse recoil, and weights more, but has an easier spray pattern, higher rate of fire and does 100% damage through boxes.

Seems strange this one wasn't removed.

That being said, I still believe everyone should just cough up the cash and get a M4 C.

PS Depending on what comes in the next patches, AK 47 is also the only other viable "tournament" gun in my opinion. However, I suppose 99% of the community cant pull down.

iTamz · January 2010

Did they change the xm8 strats? i remember when it first came out everyone was disappointed.I havent played for a while.

jillzwut · January 2010

iBlow wrote: »

Lets see, where to start.

Honestly I have no clue why the XM8 was not "banned". Considering the Scar Light was removed as it was considered to be overpowered.

The XM8 does 100% through boxes and wooden doors.
It has a high rate of fire.
It does as much damage as the Scar L.
It is more accurate then the M4.
It weighs less then all other rifles other then the Scar L.
It reloads at the same speed as the Scar L.

More or less its a Scar L with slightly worse recoil, and weights more, but has an easier spray pattern, higher rate of fire and does 100% damage through boxes.

Seems strange this one wasn't removed.

That being said, I still believe everyone should just cough up the cash and get a M4 C.

PS Depending on what comes in the next patches, AK 47 is also the only other viable "tournament" gun in my opinion. However, I suppose 99% of the community cant pull down.

The M4-C isn't the best IMO. I still use it, but I prefer the normal M4's pattern.

lulzwut · January 2010

Well I will be sniping in WOGL and occasionally rifiling on BL, that being said I put some time into the AK and see it as the best choice for me. It has great power and amazing accuracy. The spray at close range is amazing and can take out a lot of people the only thing I'm finding really trickey is the single shotting from range, I keep aiming for the head which is making me miss, I probably should aim for the chest which is a three hit kill I believe. So yeah I'd like to use AK as my rifle but if it fails I will use M4. As for the XM8, I've heard good things, but honestly have not put enough time into the gun to make a decision.

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