Throwing Knife for Ghosts
I had started another thread, and after much constructive criticism here is the FINAL idea!
(P.S. I deeply thank all those that opposed this idea, because the only way we learn is by losing, or by having flaws pointed out!)
The throwing knife would be almost exactly like a nade, it would have one use and have fall over distance just like nade(As well as range limit. The nade blows up, the knife just does 0damage past certain distance). It would cost GP and be a perk just like breath and footstep, except it should probably have a rank Req, such as Staff sgt. Also is it is important to note, that like the nade, it would take time to reach its target making it almost impossible to hit a moving target in combination with the fall effect. Pretty much forcing it to be exactly what I had first thought, a knife for taking out campers who wont move from some extremely irksome spot.
Heres the breakdown.
1. It only has one use like nade
2. Damage drop over range+fall like nade and travel speed like nade
3. 100% damage on HS, 50% body and maybe 30% to limbs(all subject to change)
4. Is a temp perk just like breath and foot with a rank req to prevent people from making new chars and getting it instantly.
(P.S. I deeply thank all those that opposed this idea, because the only way we learn is by losing, or by having flaws pointed out!)
The throwing knife would be almost exactly like a nade, it would have one use and have fall over distance just like nade(As well as range limit. The nade blows up, the knife just does 0damage past certain distance). It would cost GP and be a perk just like breath and footstep, except it should probably have a rank Req, such as Staff sgt. Also is it is important to note, that like the nade, it would take time to reach its target making it almost impossible to hit a moving target in combination with the fall effect. Pretty much forcing it to be exactly what I had first thought, a knife for taking out campers who wont move from some extremely irksome spot.
Heres the breakdown.
1. It only has one use like nade
2. Damage drop over range+fall like nade and travel speed like nade
3. 100% damage on HS, 50% body and maybe 30% to limbs(all subject to change)
4. Is a temp perk just like breath and foot with a rank req to prevent people from making new chars and getting it instantly.
Comments
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Oh really now? I on the other hand remember a post of Saidin, saying that if this idea could be balanced properly, it surely would be worth considering.Shad0wK1LL wrote: »no.. just no...
this has been suggested before, one of the MODs commenting saying no.
Correction. This would mean that the expert Ghosts are back on par again with the expert "headphone using" Global Riskers, instead of being gunned down before we are able to come close enough to do damage.this would make ghosts too powerful...
1 single throwing knife against 120+ bullets and 1 frag grenade from a Global Risker with headphones, that can pinpoint your noise downed breath 30 feet away in a second. Mmm, yeah that 1 throwing knife really measures up, doesn't it? :rolleyes: -
LolliRoger wrote: »Oh really now? I on the other hand remember a post of Saidin, saying that if this idea could be balanced properly, it surely would be worth considering.
Correction. This would mean that the expert Ghosts are back on par again with the expert "headphone using" Global Riskers, instead of being gunned down before we are able to come close enough to do damage.
1 single throwing knife against 120+ bullets and 1 frag grenade from a Global Risker with headphones, that can pinpoint your noise downed breath 30 feet away in a second. Mmm, yeah that 1 throwing knife really measures up, doesn't it? :rolleyes:
I am a pretty decent headphone user, and with breath down I think the range is more like 10 feet max.
And from 10 feet-
a. the sound is only audable if your volume is so loud your ears bleed after each session
b. the distance can be closed in under a second if your a shovel user(because shovels have a 7 foot range)
So 30 foot pinpoint is pretty much an exageration, considering anyone who is considered a pro bl player has both noise down and a shovel.(which makes me laugh, cause being pro and buying special items are so intertwined in this game) -
Never played as ghost against the Pan[TH]erS clan, have you?KickOfElves wrote: »I am a pretty decent headphone user, and with breath down I think the range is more like 10 feet max.
And from 10 feet-
a. the sound is only audable if your volume is so loud your ears bleed after each session
b. the distance can be closed in under a second if your a shovel user(because shovels have a 7 foot range)
So 30 foot pinpoint is pretty much an exageration, considering anyone who is considered a pro bl player has both noise down and a shovel.(which makes me laugh, cause being pro and buying special items are so intertwined in this game) -
umm so what happens when you throw ur knife at a Gr across the map mayb like 40ft away and u miss and right the next second 3 GRs come out the corner and cut ur path to retrieve your knife, lol wat are u goona do then, rip off your arms and legs and throw them as well? LMAO
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nah, just 1 arm. Need the other 1 to throw with.sikh90soorma wrote: »umm so what happens when you throw ur knife at a Gr across the map mayb like 40ft away and u miss and right the next second 3 GRs come out the corner and cut ur path to retrieve your knife, lol wat are u goona do then, rip off your arms and legs and throw them as well? LMAO
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LolliRoger wrote: »Never played as ghost against the Pan[TH]erS clan, have you?
im a great axe and shoveler and yea i went against panthers alot of time they are skilled Gm players and i as A gm player highly recommend their clan if you like to play alot of Gm ...SLM all them guys just bad bad all them just bawling with the B hops...if you like to mix it up with all te modes join mines it;s very ethnic http://clan.z8games.com/clanstat_cf.aspx?guildid=18244
ps i still kill em alot.i accually mad a panther cry haker Bad...lol -
To all the comments I read, there are some misunderstandings....
1. knife would not work long range,
2. It is VISABLE, Meaning if you throw a knife, people can see it coming at you the same way, or close to same way you can watch a nade fly at you. That would mean you have enough time to step aside, unless your a camping noob and dont see it comming.
3. The fall of over distance like nade(as well speed of travel) would make it very challenging to actualy nail someone in the head from any great distance.(AKA no random noob throwing a knife is going to have any chance)
4. It is one use, non retrievable..EXACTLY like nade, in almost everyway except it doesnt go *BOOM* at end, instead it deals damage if it hits something in its path. -
I dare people to go into a game, throw a nade and get it to pass just through their head at any med-long range. Single knives to head would be a much practiced, and learned skill. Allowing Pro/good BL to take out campers, that is about the only use for it.
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read what he writes
You people are not getting bob, what he means is YOU, have your regular knife, which CANT be thrown or wasted, then BOB, suggests a disposable knife.In which you can throw,like a nade/and it CANT be recovered.AND, that disposable knife, can only be used once,after that, you will still have your regular knife. The disposable knife can only be used once like a nade.You start off with 2 knifes in the match the regular one by default, AND the disposable knife( if u buy it with gp/zp).
I like this idea, =] -
Note to all who will post here.
If you like the idea, say so and say why please.
If you dont like the idea, dont come on and say "Failz idea". Say what is wrong with it, or what would be OP about it, so that the problem can be met head on and hopefully balanced/fixed.
Always open to more ideas on how to improve on this idea, just wish I could edit first post, because after every wave of messages there is always stuff I wish I could edit to be more clear.
Btw, my Name is Cratez actually, BOV is my clan tag(im not bob, lolkek)
But thanks for being one of few to actually read and understand
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ohh God, tell me your joking? What part of "almost exactly like nade* did you not get.
It will be in slot 4, just like a nade, one use, just like a nade....AND just like a nade, once you use it, you go back to your melee...please read before you post
Right, right. Sorry. But I still think it's a bad idea.botcybandit wrote: »You people are not getting bob, what he means is YOU, have your regular knife, which CANT be thrown or wasted, then BOB, suggests a disposable knife.In which you can throw,like a nade/and it CANT be recovered.AND, that disposable knife, can only be used once,after that, you will still have your regular knife. The disposable knife can only be used once like a nade.You start off with 2 knifes in the match the regular one by default, AND the disposable knife( if u buy it with gp/zp).
I like this idea, =]
Err, it's BOV. -
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LolliRoger wrote: »Never played as ghost against the Pan[TH]erS clan, have you?
Sigh. Yes. I have, many times. Breath down is too small, normal breath is too large. Breath should be somewhere in the middle.
As it stands- People who don't pay money can't win, People who pay money can't lose. Not the best formula.
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