Improvements to the weapon banning system

I agree. At the very least this needs to be done. You shouldn't exchange one OP weapon for another and also not one for something just like it or fairly similar. Between people banning 9A91s (which many many people have cause one was in coupon shop before) to get a M4a1 Noble in replace and banning say Evo and they end up with a Kriss Ares which is also a JHP SMG it really means nothing has changed BUT that people can now access more weapons to be stronger in some cases. It really feels like this was a bad attempt to do what a large portion of players wanted which was to limit ranked to certain weapons and also allow people who want to use their weapons whenever/wherever they want cause they bought them.

I'd say Option 1 is certainly doable and is the least they could do. Though I do get the counter argument to that it kinda sucks to give them something worse than what they were bringing....but that's kinda the point of a weapon ban in the first place.

Though honestly I think it might have been better if they given a list of potential weapon effects/styles to ban instead like options of remove JHP, Slugs, dual mags, full wallbang, etc etc. OR just did a simple vote on a weapon class to ban such as SMGs, shotguns, snipers, etc. Provided a weapon type one would remove A LOT of weapons in some cases.

The new gun ban system certainly needs re-looked at though as it was done poorly and I believe hastily for a quick fix to a common mentioned dislike of the ranked system.

BrandyIncubo wrote: »

1. ) Replace the most voted weapon with a regular GP weapon for each type of weapons. Example: Scorpion EVO can be replaced by the MP5;TMP can be replaced by MP7;9A-91 can be replaced by the scar light; and so on
2.) Those who have the banned gun in a bag get to choose a weapon from a normal GP weapons list (like the arms deal S&D wheel) and keep the weapon for the rest of the game in that bag.

By applying either of the options(in my opinion), I think we will have a cleaner system with no chance of abusing.

Replacing free to play weapons with GP once will make the gap between VVIP users and F2P users even greater. There is a reason some of these overpowered weapons were released in the game, to close the gap.

Ixith wrote: »

Though honestly I think it might have been better if they given a list of potential weapon effects/styles to ban instead like options of remove JHP, Slugs, dual mags, full wallbang, etc etc. OR just did a simple vote on a weapon class to ban such as SMGs, shotguns, snipers, etc. Provided a weapon type one would remove A LOT of weapons in some cases.

Removing a whole scale of effects might have the effect of a player getting all their weapons on bag removed/replaced, which wouldn't be fair. Banning a whole class of weapons wouldn't be fair either, I for example am a sniper main and would be offended if others could just vote for me not to be able to use it.

ReTeNaM wrote: »

I would personally rather welcome flat ban for certain weapons from given MMR slowly getting close to PRO match type of loadout (but still being able to use vip/bm options of those guns)
For example: All the AKs, M4s and so on you get the idea.
Snipers - pretty much no restriction needed.
SMGs - Would get rid of EVOs, TMPs, maybe even Kriss.
IMO higher ELO should be about pure display of skill and gamesense = not relying on your owerpowered 9a91 which has literally no recoil at all.
That way it would get more rewarding for players as they would apreciate so much more being in higher ELO.,
Hopefully I'm not the only one feeling this way.

What I see as totally off the mark is the fact that you even have an option to ban AKs of all things...

With the options you propose you pretty much have Arms Deal without the buying menu.


What I'm trying to say here is that there are always complaints when it comes to weapon restrictions/replacements and finding a perfect solution can be incredibly difficult. I find that Arms Deal was the best option to balance gameplay, but it was played too little to be viable.

ReTeNaM wrote: »

What I see as totally off the mark is the fact that you even have an option to ban AKs of all things...

AK's are the most powerful all-round AR in the game. If you learn to control it, there is no better weapon type. There is a reason most pro's use it and it's not because they want to impress people with how good they are with a bad weapon.

I would be more impressed with a player, if they used a weapon like: MP7, Micro GALIL, the vanilla M16 etc... and managed to score just as many kills.

Option 3) The bag in which the banned weapon resides becomes unavailable for the rest of the game.

You get 2 free bags by default, almost everyone has at least 4 bags - you only put stuff that you want to use in ur bags if you have a limited number of them so one bag being blocked off for a game should be ok as you still have at least ONE other weapon to use.